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offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-06-22 16:07 [#01251650]
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do not trust pitchfork. pitchfork is crap. If they knew
anything about the music they were talking about, they would
be making it and not pissing shit reviews all over.

Thats why i like Xltronic, you get various opinions from
different people

Here I'm alive, everything all of the time


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2004-06-22 16:08 [#01251653]
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whats pitchfork ?


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-06-22 16:17 [#01251667]
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Is it the Wilco review that is causing you pain?


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-06-22 16:17 [#01251668]
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maybe you should do a review of pitchfork and rate them
badly or something.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-06-22 16:21 [#01251671]
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Oh yeah! Written as a series of postcards from Beat
generation poets vacationing in New Jersey.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-06-22 16:22 [#01251672]
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Pitchfork Review


Pitchfork is utter crap. Bollocks. shit. They know nothing.
We know everything. They are worse as we are better. They
pale in compairison to our incredible awesomeness and i
believe horsefactory will agree with me when i say "egg
custard"

Why would i look to someone elses opinion when i know myself
and what i like more than anyone else. They didnt even give
me any cookies for this holiday season. They dont smile as i
walk past. They dont even take me to dinner anymore. I
thought they truly loved me or at least my new shoes... but
no.

*sigh*

overall usefullness 0.2333/10


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-06-22 16:25 [#01251675]
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i hate having this discussion over and over again...
especially since i'm one of the few who actually defend them
(even though, i'm hardly in love with them to begin with)


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2004-06-22 16:26 [#01251676]
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pitchfork is shit, but then again, alot of the "music"
people suggest on here is pretty pretentious unlistenable
crap as well. but atleast some of the people here actually
make music.


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-06-22 16:27 [#01251677]
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:)
pretty accurate!
definitely a no star review, do they even deserve a tiny
rock floating in space?


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-06-22 16:27 [#01251678]
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Pitchfork is coming out with a best-of list for the '70s in
a day or two. Should be interesting, especially the
inevitable backlash!

But yeah, I read a Sloan review on there the other day that
was just out of this world bad (and wrong). I don't mind
them too much, generally. I don't read them, that's why.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-06-22 16:29 [#01251680]
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We will all keep reading it because everyone loves a bitch.


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-06-22 16:30 [#01251681]
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yes that's right... i don't see anybody here doing a list of
100 albums from the 70s... i don't see anybody here helping
me find out about that stuff...


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-22 16:30 [#01251684]
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i don't understand why you hate pitchfork. it's just an
opinion, you take it or leave it just like any other
opinion. just because it has its own website and is written
by lit degree dropouts who happened to be pompous enough to
gage a certain perspective on what is right/wrong with
music, doesn't make them any different from what is posted
on this message board. i enjoy reading their pompous inane
toilet fodder for a laugh. i may even agree with them every
now and again but remember all reviews are subjective, if
you don't like the website don't go there.


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-06-22 16:32 [#01251687]
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was this thread to be taken that seriously?


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-06-22 16:34 [#01251690]
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I think people are just jealous that they aren't getting
paid to do the same thing, on this MB.

why dont you guys apply to pitchfork and show em how its
done?


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-06-22 16:36 [#01251693]
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*both lines of previous comment were said jokingly.

dont know if it came across.

anyways, I agree with earth. I dont love it, and there are
things I dont like, but I dont hate it.


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-06-22 16:37 [#01251695]
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but then Zeus it is well know that most music journalists
failed miserably at music.....


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-06-22 16:39 [#01251697]
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actually, i've been hanging out with Rollie Pemberton, who
writes a lot of rap reviews for them... and its funny all
the shit he has to put up with... people are always writing
him telling him what a pretentious white snob he is, when in
fact he's just a black dude who really, really loves hip
hop...


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-06-22 16:40 [#01251698]
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the same goes to all reviewers really.
they can influence sales by saying one thing is shit and the
other isn't.
i never take reviews to seriously, especialy if they start
bitching about the artist instead of sticking to the music.


 

offline optimus prime on 2004-06-22 16:40 [#01251699]
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pitchfork isn't bad at all.


 

offline Doomed Puppy from on and off and on and off and on 2004-06-22 16:40 [#01251700]
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Life is tough. You will always have to face naysayers. The
trick is to be able to use their opinions to better
yourself...


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-06-22 16:43 [#01251705]
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Pitchfork website, hyakuuuuusen.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-06-22 16:47 [#01251717]
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''His tuneless yodeling on "Summer of Ice and Wind and Rain
and Torment" wanders from note to note like a homeless man
hanging out at a wedding and trying to eat as many hors
d'oeuvres as he can without being caught by the bride's
family.''

Hra hra hra!*

TM sneakattack


 

offline Doomed Puppy from on and off and on and off and on 2004-06-22 16:49 [#01251721]
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Sneakattack doesn't use metaphors that much. Just vast
linguistics.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-06-22 16:52 [#01251727]
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Naw, I was using Sneakattack's new laugh, because I really
like it (added r). It's totally his and I give credit where
it's due.


 

offline Doomed Puppy from on and off and on and off and on 2004-06-22 16:55 [#01251736]
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Well what the hell

Hra Hra Hra*

sneakattackTM


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-06-22 16:56 [#01251738]
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Hra hra hra!*

TM sneakattack



 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-06-22 16:58 [#01251744]
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Sneakattack! Hra hra hra hra!*

™Sneakattack®© all rights reserved.



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-06-22 16:59 [#01251749]
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Sneakattack! Hra hra hra hra!*

™Sneakattack®© all rights reserved.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-06-22 17:01 [#01251751]
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I HATH CREATED THE MONSTER

HRA HRA HRA


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-06-22 17:02 [#01251752]
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hra HRA hra!*

sneakattakâ„¢


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-06-22 17:03 [#01251756]
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um

har har har

DANG


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-06-22 17:03 [#01251757]
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bastard.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-06-22 17:05 [#01251759]
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Have some pork fat.


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-06-22 17:08 [#01251763]
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"chocolaty pork fat should come with a health warning,
according to Dr Svetlana Fus from the Kiev Medical Research
Centre."

unhealthier than tar, the ukrainian snickers bar!


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2004-06-22 20:58 [#01251919]
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I just read the Drukqs review at Pitchfork....how bloody
sad. Was he listening to the same album as me? This site
doesn't know music from its ass. I haven't heard anything
like it, and the drill tracks aren't just "same old" as the
reviewer states.


 

offline 3052 on 2004-06-22 21:00 [#01251920]
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Fitch Pork


 

offline optimus prime on 2004-06-22 22:25 [#01251947]
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ohhhhh.


 

offline Smyrma from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2004-06-22 23:05 [#01251955]
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I like pitchfork sometimes, other times I don't. Depends on
whether or not we have the same opinion.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-06-22 23:18 [#01251961]
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I laugh until my head falls off. Swallow until i burst until
i burst until i ....


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-06-23 02:28 [#01252053]
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I like Pitchfork... my only complaint is that some of the
reviews and completely useless and super hard to understand
what the hell they're talking about... but , most of the
time I find the reviews good... plus I like that they rate
the albums, so you can see what they think of it basically,
before reading a word...

and as earthleakage says, it's all opinion anyways...
everyone gets so mad and complains when a review goes
against your personal opinion, but they love it when it's
the same as your personal opinion... who cares? If you like
the music, like it...


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-06-23 02:29 [#01252054]
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I read reviews cause I like to see how others rate the
albums I like... I like to see what they've gotten frmo the
music... I like to read reviews on here, as well as in
magazines for the same reason!


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-23 02:32 [#01252055]
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I agree with a lot of the reviews but the way they write
them is fucking stupid.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-23 03:02 [#01252073]
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I'm sorry, dobbin, I really hate pitchfork too.

damn stupid writing.

anyone for a gin-tonic, what what?


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2004-06-24 03:38 [#01253815]
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"but then Zeus it is well know that most music journalists
failed miserably at music"

err.. no

none of the ones i know, anyway. for the most part theyre
music lovers, not music makers.

still, i don't know any of the big-shot ones who try to
make&break artists on their say-so.. i think it's a shame
when it becomes bitchy & politicised like that. as soon as a
journalist starts believing that their opinion has a greater
value than the music/artefact that they are talking about,
they've lost all perspective.

theirs is a subjective opinion, design to stimulate
discussion/interest/argument about albums/artists/films
etc.

some journalists could do with remembering this..
but, then, so could everyone that always slags writers off.


 

offline mortsto-x from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-06-24 05:19 [#01253952]
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Agreed


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-06-24 05:54 [#01253999]
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but for the most part, the only time when a journalistic
opinion becomes a maker/breaker is when WE allow it to be...
pitchfork is just an e-zine that gradually grew in
popularity over time, to the point that all of a sudden so
many people detested it precisely because so many others
respected what it had to say... really i don't know why
people get so hopped up about the writing style at
pitchfork, people act like it's somehow more self-indulgent
than most review work, when in fact pretty much all music
reviews are a PERSONAL RESPONSE to what a person is
hearing... as surely as it's assumed that it's "imo" when
someone here critiques someone else's track, it's "imo" when
someone there reviews an album... people really do seem to
mistake a writer's passion for his/her pretension... frankly
i prefer Brett Dicrescenzo discussing how he had hot dogs in
the park with Sam Prekop's voice, to hearing some pathetic
normative diagnostic about how it is this clichee adjective,
and that clichee adverb...


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2004-06-24 05:56 [#01254003]
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precisely


 

offline EugeneII on 2004-06-24 09:33 [#01254326]
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pitchfork are just as radiohead.

they get bashed because they became popular


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-24 09:35 [#01254329]
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there's always a backlash on anything that becomes popular,
usually but not always driven by the people who made it/them
popular to begin with.


 


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