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nacmat
on 2004-06-22 03:31 [#01250590]
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not yet.
but I got a mail saying that I will be if I dont pay the cd I won the auction on.
ok, so I won the auction for powerpill pacman, but then I wanted to retract my bid, you know, I just changed opinion, and didnt want the cd for 60$
so I understand that I really hd earned a warning or something, but being banned?? I never thought they would go so far.
I know I acted bad, but really, I would have had to sop eating if I had bought it
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2004-06-22 03:33 [#01250592]
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who who even pay 60 dollars for cd??
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-22 03:33 [#01250593]
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That's only one item. i didn't think they'd ban you for that. They can always offer it to the next highest bidder anyway.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-06-22 03:33 [#01250594]
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you don't need food!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-22 03:33 [#01250595]
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you won the auction, you made a commitment. you should not have bid if you can't pay for it.
I think it's pretty good that they ban you if you just bid and don't pay - I mean, what if everybody just wins stuff and then decides they don't want it after all?
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-06-22 03:34 [#01250596]
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Nacho Matazilla
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-06-22 03:35 [#01250597]
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they don't ban ppl on amazon!
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morge
from United Kingdom on 2004-06-22 03:35 [#01250598]
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i think qrter is right, sorry nacmat
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-22 03:36 [#01250599]
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different system, though.
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nacmat
on 2004-06-22 03:36 [#01250600]
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agree with you
but I thought it would mean abann for the first time
and its not my first auction won
I know I deserve it, but hey, didnt you tell me a few weeks back (about this same matter) that there was no problem with retracting a bid?
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nacmat
on 2004-06-22 03:37 [#01250602]
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* I didnt think
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-22 03:37 [#01250603]
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if you didn't actually WIN IT YET, no!
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morge
from United Kingdom on 2004-06-22 03:38 [#01250604]
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ebay are a massive company, they need to be harsh to uphold their reputation and maintain their monopoly.
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nacmat
on 2004-06-22 03:40 [#01250607]
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anyway, I know I acted bad, but if I have to be banne dI will, I mean, I canno pay that now
you will wonder: why did you bid then??
ok, I thought my boss was goona pay me more than what he finally did
I only can say sorry to the seller and assume my bann
no more rareties for me
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-22 03:42 [#01250610]
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have you tried saying you will pay next month (if you can), explaining that your boss made a mistake in your paycheck, something like that?
the seller will still probably refuse, but you can try at least.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-22 03:52 [#01250625]
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Yeah dude, it sucks but they do have the right to ban you for it. When you sign up to ebay you contractually agree that you will pay for any item you win. You can get away with retracting a bid before the auction has ended but you can't change your mind afterwards.
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-06-22 04:40 [#01250689]
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i got mental when they wanted to ban me but having in mind the way the whole thing works...i think its fair...
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-22 04:43 [#01250693]
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I still don't think they should ban you for failure to pay for one auction. That's what the feedback is for. To let people know that you've not paid in the past. They could then choose to not let you bid on the item.
My mate kept bidding on things and then forgetting to pay and she never got banned.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-06-22 04:45 [#01250700]
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your mate should be banned. Why would you like to keep e-bay working less well? It's suppose to be sell or bid/pay - and it's the way it should work.
Not sell or bid (only) - then there'd be no deals. There have to be payments.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-22 04:47 [#01250705]
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it probably only comes into action if the seller complains.
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nacmat
on 2004-06-22 04:47 [#01250708]
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can I just open a new account with diferent mail adress but same credit card and adress? I doubt it
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-22 04:47 [#01250709]
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besides what Key_Secret says, putting up auctions costs the seller money.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-22 04:48 [#01250710]
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I doubt it too. very much so, even.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-22 04:49 [#01250711]
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She admits that she should really be banned. She bid on things then forgot about them and checked her e-mail a couple of weeks later and there were e-mails telling her she'd won.
I think eBay is great but the feedback is a great system in letting who's a good eBayer and who's not. If someone has great feedback all the other times and there's this one occasion where they didn't go through then I think there should be a leniency. 3 strikes and you're out maybe?
I'm not saying it's a good thing to not pay. But if it's out of character for a user to do so then it's a bit strong to ban them.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-22 04:50 [#01250716]
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I think you can actually...
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-22 04:50 [#01250717]
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I thought the rules said that you didn't have to pay if the item wasn't sold because of the buyer and you got to put the item back up. If that's not the case then maybe nacmat could offer to pay the costs of having put up the item. It'll be less than the $60 for the CD and the seller won't be out of pocket.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-22 04:51 [#01250718]
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if anybody should be able to be lenient it should be the seller. it certainly should not be a rule.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-22 04:55 [#01250721]
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I suppose, but I still think that as nacmat has a good track record on there they shouldn't ban him. I think its something nacmat needs to find a resolution with the seller about really.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-22 04:56 [#01250723]
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yes, but it's still up to the seller, to "drop the charges" or not, so to speak. it's not eBay's own responsibility.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-22 04:59 [#01250727]
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If they're the people who call for abnning then that's the case.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-22 05:02 [#01250729]
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if it was a small amount, it could be easier to wave it. but $60 is quite a lot.
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nacmat
on 2004-06-22 05:06 [#01250737]
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I tried to explain the seeler, and I was very polite with him, but he seems to be very disgusted... so he wants me out now I think
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-06-22 05:08 [#01250741]
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mail from ebay to nacmat:
"B7!!!"
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-22 05:12 [#01250745]
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It is for a CD :P
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-22 05:19 [#01250761]
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yes? the point being..?
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nacmat
on 2004-06-22 05:37 [#01250784]
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are there other places like ebay?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-22 06:02 [#01250829]
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well, if you're looking for rare stuff, you could have a look on gemm.com, which is a site where all kinds of second-hand recordtraders present their stuff.
I have found and bought quite a few things there.
thing is, it isn't as secure as eBay - you're dealing with traders almost directly. gemm is getting better at that stuff, though.
big pro: it doesn't use the auction system.
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notmyname
from France on 2004-06-22 06:27 [#01250869]
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i don't know much about ebay but what happens if i sign stuff, buy powerpill cd (expensive or rare one) pay via paypal & do not get the cd because the seller hadn't send it at all & kept the money & pretends he'd send it...who is the "judge"?
gemm is pretty good, but be carefull, one advice: check the seller's name & buy it directly via google search without sending any money to gemm, that's how i bought pretty rare stuff like rubber johnny for 4£ or d'arcangelo ep for 8$
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-06-22 06:40 [#01250897]
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if you really dont wanna pay, just get a new account...
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-06-22 06:47 [#01250906]
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My advice: Buy the Powerpill disc for $60, but promise yourself to sell some or all of your terrible VSnares collection to make back the money.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-22 06:52 [#01250909]
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Not a lot.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-22 08:42 [#01251034]
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:)
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-22 09:04 [#01251058]
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You look beautiful!
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MrGerbik
from United States on 2004-06-22 09:15 [#01251069]
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BTW, retracting a bid during an auction is one thing... changing your mind after the auction has ended, when you are the winning bidder, is another.
You won't get banned, but you definitely will get negative feedback.
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nacmat
on 2004-06-22 09:22 [#01251072]
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I will be banned
that said the mail that ebay sent me
well, I amde a mistake, and will have to learn from it
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-22 10:04 [#01251095]
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how annoyingly mature.
:P
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-06-22 10:05 [#01251096]
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*feels for nacmat*
OH there he is!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-22 10:07 [#01251098]
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that's not nacmat.
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Smyrma
from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2004-06-22 10:08 [#01251099]
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You can get another username I'm sure. You just won't have any feedback, but perhaps that's a good thing for you
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-06-22 10:11 [#01251100]
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*washes hands*
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