 |
|
You are not logged in! F.A.Q Log in Register |
 |
|
 |
 Now online (1)belb ...and 378 guests Last 5 registered Oplandisks nothingstar N_loop yipe foxtrotromeo Browse members... |
 |
Members 8025Messages 2614114 Today 0 Topics 127542 |
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Hi all. long time no post. I was asked to write an article on what we consider to be art, for the greek art magazine I work for. You can find the english translation over at my website www.christinart.da.ru under the Articles section it's an article about painting, but the same arguments can succesfully be translated into musical terms. crits welc. -christina |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Writing like this is so passé. -mappatazee |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
writing... is passé. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I read it and enjoyed the article. I agree with it even though I feel a lot of things that are called art aren't art. But then it's up to the individual what's art so until I do achieve my aim of becoming a dictator I can't really do much about it. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
"Such dogma is dangerous to the average person who struggles to organise things in her mind" |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
The average person is a man. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Enjoying more complicated art makes you in fact a better person!!!! |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
You have the worst timing. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
the average person is a sheep. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
i wish i could see the name Christina without thinking back to Christina. i miss Christina. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
"the average person is a sheep." i like you already. but unfortunately, i can't load your site |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
http://darksprite.chaos-rules.com/article 1.html try this |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
yes, that statement does set christina aparrt frrom us averrage people. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Not me, I'm a moo-kow. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
anus Presley> I'm not her, get over it :D |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
|
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
yes it's profoundly deep come to think of it. too bad I only posted it without thinking, as a joke. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
aww but it upsets me. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
|
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
i neverr said that in yourr eyes it was anything morre than a joke. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
yes, I am practically blonde. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
dig me>?>? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
how do you mean? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
mouseover showing skeleton of angel was a nice touch. My new avatar greets you. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
hi new avatar! |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
< waves happily > |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I believe art is meant to be for an elite. Elites are layered like everything to do with society. The things that are enjoyed or at least circulated among people who are higher in the social ladder are closer to art. Art is a practical term in my opinion. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
well ok it used to be a practical term in the Renaissance. and yes, an elite can still experience its elite art. but there's art that can be experienced by average ppl like us. it might not be ART, but it doesn't CARE to be named that. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
the capital does all the difference. both the monetary sense, and the capital letter sense :) there's Art and there's art. some pieces of Art can even be experienced very deeply by even plain ppl |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
thanks for the link, i will read it later when i have time. since no matter what, my comment earlier before seems a bit hostile, i will leave it open for interpretation - "was he being sarcastic or not? i guess we'll never know..." (oops - ignore me, please...) |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
It doesn't have to do anything with complexity by the way. Many avant garde types of art like jazz for example where nurtured in lower social classes. I wasn't saying that the elite consists of people with a higher aesthetic perception. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
surrogate input -> senses -> brain |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
There are infinite input points...some lead to the memory centers of the brain for example and then to the senses. What you wrote is simplified. Shtu pu |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
puppy> yes fuck the upper class, until we become it. w M w > is qrter really a fag? why does this forum care so much about it? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
That's a good question. It seems like all everyone talks about is qrter's sexual orientation sometimes. I personally don't care at all. Ok, so he's gay. Can't people just leave him alone? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
exactly. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Hi, you're being polite, and I enjoyed you started threads to trash me as one of your initial atogonistic welcomes, so I skimmed your article (it's also assumed by all involved that I am destructively bored), and here's a few comments (tersely presented, you can justify them yourself) (1) excellent english if you are indeed from .ru . Be careful of monotonous sentence structure and punctuation, and also of both certain slang usage (you said "off-putting") and when your vocabulary usage dwindles for some sentences (it makes it seem forced when it comes back). (2) Comments like 'the greats had these ultimate theories but they naturally cannot be correct" and "people don't question these things" (I paraphrased) will put people off by their arrogance (3) It's good thinking, but it's just that--a pile of idle thought. You don't really follow through any point to the conclusion, and end up covering many cursorily. This is fine, but not if it's to be an article--as it stands it's just mental masturbation. I'm not saying you have to spell out everything for the reader (making it 'complete' by making it obvious), but for instance when you started talking about the meaning of art (I didn't know about 'techni'--that's pretty cool), you should have pointed out the logical closure, which is that art is expression, and the ability to express requires skill. Articles fundamentally intend to impart knowledge. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I wasn't crazy about funkstorung's appetite for destruction--can you recommend me a good release of theirs? By the way, Crunch 1 grew on me more, thanks.. tracks 1 and 3 still remain my favorite (unfortunately the most traditional tracks). |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
good points. I tried to impart feeling. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I know what you mean. Here's the thing, you want people to read it, and I'm not saying you have to make it worse in the process, but if it's just a lump of thought, a sort of cleaned up stream of conscience, then, when presented rather dryly as you did, it gets a little tedious to get through. Worse sentence ever. Do you know what I mean? Common ways to make something of this sort more interesting are to lend a poiint, teach more (some sort of historical/social/psychological lesson in this case), or maybe imbue with humor. It's true that you did generate a sense of the issue well (a 'feeling'), but, I just got a little bored.. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
well.. it sounds like an excuse, and it is really.. but the original article, before my editor read it, was VERY well structured, and excellently phrased (in greek). I only translated it from greek, instead of rewriting in english -and that's always bad. Anyway, she wanted it to be simpler, less academic and less of an essay. More unhinged too, since she took out almost a page of text here and there, and I had to sew the rest back together without necessarily meaning much. She ALSO wanted it to be artistic and passion-evoking, instead of boring prose. hm perhaps I'll just translate the original text.. but seriously, people should make up their minds about what they want to read.......... points very well taken though, sneakattack! |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
and sorry to have called your avatar an anal dildo, but it didn't look anything like it, and it was so fun to see people try to picture it. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Ah, I see. [a close friend of mine is in greece right now, by the way--he's from thessaloniki (sp)] That's too bad about the editor, but she may have a point. I'm different from most people in that I almost always must do things on my own, even when it comes to things like books--I get irritated reading something philosophical, since I view it to be my responsibility as a thinking organism to derive these things personally. By the way one of the images (Saturn eating children) was improperly labelled as on the left, but was one the right (I hope I'm remembering ok--window closed). nice work! |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I wouldn't have taken the trouble to read your article and reply here if it wasn't in good spirits, don't worry. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
And yes I remember the picture you posted a link to, though extremely gross, looked almost exactly like my damned avatar at the time. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Make out you too |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
TWO TWO DAMNIT MOTHERFUCKER |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
er.. I'm a photoshop wizardess... I took your ant queen and pasted it over the girl's asshole. and what's gross about assholes? doomed puppy> he's not incompetent.. only incompetent men try to make out with lesbians |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I repeat: it WASN'T a real photo.. and it wasn't a real dildo. I thought you could tell about the photomontage!! oh my gods. Is that why you were so cross at the pic? :D you actually felt your avatar was threatened? WHEEEE |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I'm incompetent if I didn't realize that. In my defense I don't look at porn so the image was shocking and closed quickly. If anyone sees me say that I'll be shot, so let's hope there are more interesting (meaning stupid) threads going on (100% probability). |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
|
Messageboard index
|
|||||||||
