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At the request of CIA Director George Tenet, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld ordered the military to secretly hold a suspected terrorist in Iraq a Pentagon spokesman said. The suspected terrorist has been held since October without being given an identification number and without the International Committee of the Red Cross being notified, Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said. Both conditions violate the Geneva Accords on treatment of prisoners of war. Rumsfeld ordered the Joint Chiefs of Staff to have the prisoner secretly detained on the day last October, when Tenet made the request, Whitman said. "The director of central intelligence requested he not be assigned an internment serial number while the CIA worked to determnine his precise disposition," Whitman said. The Bush administration has argued that the Geneva Conventions do not apply to suspected terrorists who do not follow the conventions themselves. But Rumsfeld and other administration officials have said the Geneva Conventions applied to all U.S. military activities in Iraq since the March 2003 invasion. he fucked himself there. no excuse. |
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why? |
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everybody makes mistakes, i think he derserves another chance |
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Yeah but this is big mistake #632. |
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rumsfield is a piece of shit. bush and company are going fucking down. |
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They aren't though. He will be re-elected whether he gets the popular vote or not. Remember, he did that 4 years ago when he "won" the election. Kerry really is a piece of shit too.. I think the best strategy right now is to have W. in for another term so he completely fucks everything up. Americans have already decided that they are too comfortable to start a revolution, invasion from another country is our only hope. |
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haha! holy crap, the picture that yahoo put up with this article is great. if that isn't a shit eating grin, i don't know what is. |
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if he is re-elected, by popular vote, or if he pulls some same shit this time, and the public doesnt revolt... then Ill just have lost all faith in americans. There are good people there, but to allow this to happen, is just wrong. Id leave and change my citizenship. Honestly. I dont want to be a part of such things. But I wouldnt be suprised if: 1. they already have Bin Laden, and have been waiting till right before the elections to "capture" him (ie release it into the public) to win favor 2. Some major "terrorist" *cough* attack convinently allows marshall law to be declared, bypassing elections. |
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Go back to bed, America. |
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The terrorists hate our freedom. |
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Are you reading Donald, you may have good taste in IDM but the WMD thing went too far, step down man! |
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And that HAT!! |
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Don't leave the country. We need as many people here fighting the good fight as possible. How long till america comes sticking its nose in the business of whatever country you move to? The next few years are going to be pretty grim, with Bush or Kerry. At leat if Bush wins, it will almost guarantee that the proverbial pendulum will swing harder back to the left once he is out of office. you should listen to my radio station: |
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politics are corupt!!?? you don't say! |
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I almost want to vote for Bush to facillitate this action. Like the strategy of letting your drug addicted friend hit rock bottom before they can be helped.. |
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haha.. they need to take their shoes off before they come in though |
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nice |
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i liked it better when i didn't pay any attention to politics. maybe when i get out of religiousrightwingville i can go back to that. |
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"I think the best strategy right now is to have W. in for another term so he completely fucks everything up." fuck that, we need him out asap. He's already stated he wants to develope mini-nukes so he can use them in his future invasions. |
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I rest my case.. |
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yep. they're called tactical nuclear devices, and we've had them for decades. :( |
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phat! |
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pretty cool huh? |
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who was that, i can't remember. wagonchrist maybe? |
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well kind of, i heard they need to modify the design to make them more powerful, like a small nuclear bomb. There is a law in the US that bans developement of any kind of nuclear weapon. Bush was trying to lift the ban last year but suddenly its all quiet as the election get closer. |
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no doubt elusive will come in here with his smug avatar and explain why more nuclear weapons are good for the world. |
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allowing bush to get back in so that it teaches everyone in america a lesson sounds alright in theory. but really, even if your economy fucks up, or some of your civil rights are infringed, your taxes go up, or you lose your job - thats pretty insignificant in comparison to the millions of lives that will be affected all over the world by that stupid thug and his cronies. if the citizens of america won't do their duty by their own country and get rid of this president, they owe it to the rest of the world (who DON'T have a say in who runs the US) to try. maybe thats being too optimistic though, eh? |
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bush's poll numbers aren't looking very good right now. of course kerry is a fucking meatlump, so it's not looking good there either. i'm not at all convinced he'd handle the country any better, he just might be smart enough to cover his tracks a little more thouroughly. bush is so convinced that he's righteous that he doesn't even try to smooth things over. bring 'em on!! |
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I mean both these guys spent their college days in a big circle jerk around a coffin or whatever the fuck skull and bonesmen do.. it's the lesser of two evils and both men would just be carrying out the commands of those who are really in control. bush is just such a FUCKING MORON that it would be easier to keep tabs on the corruption. |
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bush is a warmonger we need to vote him the fuck OUT that's all there is to it |
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If we simply vote him out and try to patch up the mess he's gotten us in to, then we, as a nation, are doomed to repeat our mistakes. The entire country needs to see what a monster this guy is. Unfortunately, many lives will be lost before we come to this realization, because it ALL needs to come crashing down around us before we wake up. You would think that the HUGE amounts of trouble this administration has gotten in to in the past 1 year alone would be enough. But apparently it's not. I say we let this bufoon paint himself into a corner (perhaps through full-on nuclear combat toe-to-toe with whatever country that hates our freedom and happens to have more WMD's stockpiled than we do) |
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we cannot afford to allow bush to maintain american presence in the middle east, calling on "old boy" support from various neighboring nations and escalating tensions in an already tense environment. i'm afraid four more years of that would lead to full-scale world war. vote for someone who is committed to allowing the iraqi people their autonomy. vote bush out. |
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a larger, vastly millitarilly superior nation maintaining it's empire by exploiting smaller, less advanced nations... that's hardly a new concept. there's almost never been a time in the history of earth that this hasn't been the case. america isn't a new concept. humanity hasn't learned from it's mistakes. this won't be the last time this argument is had. |
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I am voting Bush out by voting him in. |
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because of the arrogance and power of America, you also have a responsibility to the rest of the world. it's a nice idea to want to teach Americans a lesson by getting him reelected, but the rest of the world has to suffer too. it's a bit like when going to the movies, deliberately picking a film that you full well know will be shit. it's fun the first 10 minutes, but then you feel like you're thoroughly wasting your time. in the case of Bush you're wasting your country. and the rest of the world. *epic music swells up* GET THAT FUCKFACE OUT OF THERE!!! |
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So by that rationale, you are not voting? |
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imo: bush's biggest downfall is that he is 100% sure that god is on his side, and he lets that righteousness show through all of the time. this makes him come off as an arrogant prick to the rest of the world. he's become a HUGE impediment to our ability to have diplomatic relationships with the rest of the world. as tempting as it is to try and swing the pendulum by holding on to bush, i just think it's an awefully perverse game to play. |
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"The terrorists hate our freedom." I LOVE that bit in "It's not funny"! *whispers* "They hate our freedom. they're freedom haters." "oh honey, the terrorists alert has been lifted to orange" "oh! what should I do!?" "well.. get the bread out of the oven, let's eat dinner" "well should I get scared?" "yes!! that's what it's about, it's about getting scared!!" "alright!! now I'm scared, now what should I do!?" "just obey!! obey! ..that's all you're supposed to do.." |
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no, i'm going to vote.. i don't know for who yet, but i'm going to vote. who's on the libertarian ticket? bush is a huge obsticle to us being able to function in a global society. people don't like him.. regardless of the merit of his actions, he will be judged as wrong on principle by the majority of the planet. i don't think that's good for us, so i want him out. but, i'm not deluding myself into thinking that any gov't we elect will be without coruption. |
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"GET THAT FUCKFACE OUT OF THERE!!!" I wish it were that simple. But we learned in 2000 that the American electoral process is corrupt. He will be reelected and the only way out of it is; Impeachment Coup d'etat Assasination I feel terrible to all the people of all the nations that are being effected by his reign, but really in the long run it is for the best. Trust me. If the entire nation goes to see Ferinheight 911 and decides to vote for Kerry, that slippery bastard is going to have some tricks up his sleeve that no one was expecting. |
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it's a perverse and dangerous game to play. and that kind of power and responsibility...yes, leading the US should be considered a RESPONSIBILITY to its citizens and to the entire global community...that's not to be played with. this is perhaps getting too serious for this mb, i apologize. but this is the only forum i have in which i get to interact with people from around the world and hear what they have to say. |
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not only perverse, but very possibly quite dangerous..! |
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Fahrenheit |
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sadly, I agree with you on that. he did it once, why shouldn't he do it again? he got away with it easily last time. |
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lol are you american, pomme? and if so, are you seriously SERIOUSLY considering voting for bush? |
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