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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-06-17 07:14 [#01244514]
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damn.. I may suffer from this, which means I may go deaf (on at least one ear.. possibly two...).
my grandfather had it, and you're more prone to it if someone else in your family already had it.. it only hits 34 of 100 000 people, though, so I'm hoping it's only some infection.
For those who don't know what ménière is: it's a balance problem in the inner ear resulting from overproduction of some fluid. It manifests itself as anything but an ear-disease (nausea, EXTREME dizzyness (you can't stand up straight (you'll puke), and an attack can last from 10 seconds to one week straight). Tinnitus is one of the symptomes (most often only on one ear, as the disease only affects one ear at a time). With each attack, your hearing will get worse and there is no way to cure the disease itself, but there are ways of relieving the symptoms (a drain for the dizzyness caused by those fluids). Sometimes the dicease will go away by itself, and sometimes it'll leave you deaf on one ear. The procedures to reduce the symptoms are also very dangerous and can also leave you with one deaf ear.
I'm going to the doctor (didn't have an open hour before after roskilde, so I hope nothing happens there...), and I hope this is an infection (I've had tinnitus constantly for two weeks now, and it appeared for no reason. I feel dizzy, and my ears have "dots" (which is another symptom, by the way)).Normal infections can sometimes cause the same symptoms, by the way (except for the 1week dizzy-nausea thing).
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2004-06-17 07:22 [#01244529]
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fingers crossed for you..
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-17 07:30 [#01244546]
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Good luck dude.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-06-18 03:43 [#01245566]
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My grandfather most likely has it too. A while ago he just fainted in the bathroom and after that had trouble walking or even standing up for 2 weeks or so. It makes you extremely afraid to go out of the house because you could faint again just like that. He's better now though and does shopping on his own again, with a walking stick.
Hope the same fate doesn't fall upon you, mate. Good luck.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-06-18 06:17 [#01245734]
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Thanks for the words, guys! thank fucking god! I got an earlier appointment, and he said he didn't think it was ménière (he couldn't be sure before I had had an "documented" attack...).. he didn't know what it was, though... possibly some water-ish substance in the inner ear that disrupted my balance and made the tinnitus, but he didn't know...
"you'll have to wait it out and see, man" was what he said.
eXX: if your grandfather has it, watch out for the symptoms of it.. sudden vertigo and nausea for no reason 'cause you're more prone to it...
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-06-18 06:21 [#01245737]
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ohhh, not nice. good luck, Torbjørn.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-18 06:21 [#01245738]
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It could be that your Eustachian Tube is playing up. That is the tube that connects the inner ear to the throat and deals with the balance of pressure, so you can feel dizzy and stuff, like when you are on a plane or go diving or something. I had this problem once but it goes away. Do your ears pop when you swallow and stuff?
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-06-18 06:22 [#01245739]
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shit. oh well. i'm glad it wasn't ménière :S
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-18 06:24 [#01245740]
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"Eustachian tube problems and the associated ear infections are among the most common problems seen by doctors. Many people have chronic problems regulating middle ear pressure. Causes range from allergies to excessively small Eustachian tubes. These patients often notice intermittent ear fullness, ear popping or cracking, mild hearing loss (an attenuation of sound), ringing in the ears (tinnitus), and/or occasional poor balance."
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-06-18 06:25 [#01245741]
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well.. they don't pop every time I swallow, but sometimes.. also, when I hold my nose and blow (so that both my ears get clogged) there is this feeling of the ear that has tinnitus letting the air out again.. but I'm not sure if it is something I'm imagining.. did you have tinnitus at the same time?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-06-18 06:26 [#01245744]
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ok.. thanks.
I'll have to remember to ask the doctor about that.. I've still got the original appointement, 'cause he wanted to know if it went away by itself.. if it hasn't when I go see him, I'll have to ask him about that.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-06-18 06:28 [#01245747]
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thanks man.. (and it's probably easier to say Tobb or Tobben than Torbjørn... that way you won't have to copy and paste the 'ø' all the time... (unless you have a scandinavian-ish keyboard...)
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2004-06-18 06:30 [#01245752]
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<---- is glad!!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-06-18 06:32 [#01245753]
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thanks man!
(any new art?)
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2004-06-18 06:44 [#01245766]
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no :( have one idea but am too lazy to buy water-pencils. creative crisis, indeed.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-06-18 06:46 [#01245770]
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hahaha! indeed, my good sir!
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stilaktive
from a place on 2004-06-18 06:53 [#01245773]
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I probably have the worst tinnitus in the world. i need to slepp with a fan or A/C on because the whining does my head in.
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2004-06-18 06:55 [#01245774]
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be sure, i'll post it as soon as I scan it:) (shit, i've got to draw it, only then scan..)
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-06-18 06:58 [#01245776]
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Oh he had all that shit..extreme dizziness (he was afraid to get out of bed for hours), vomiting etc. He is reluctant to see a doctor though, so it is not 100% sure he has Meniere, but we're 95% sure ourselves.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-06-18 07:00 [#01245777]
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have you tried "alternative" treatment?
go to the apotechary or health-food store and ask for something called Gingko Biloba. Apparently 60% of patients with tinnitus gets relief from this herb.
Also, an apparatus called TINNEX may help...
Foot-zone therapy and acupuncture are also believed to be helpful...
and last, but not least, the doctor-approved method, Tinnitus Retraining Therapy.. it makes you automatically ignore the tinnitus...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-06-18 07:03 [#01245778]
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yeah.. there is no reason to go to the doctor about it if you're sure of it.. the doctor can't cure it if it is ménière.. he can relieve certain symptoms, but not cure it... however, I read something about being on a diet could be helpful, so maybe a nutritionist in co-operation with a doctor could be helpful?
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-06-18 07:07 [#01245784]
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I heard that in some cases (I think if it's only in one ear) a doctor could squirt in some kind of fluid (no you filthy bastards, not THAT!) that could help. Ask your doc if this is really the case.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-06-18 07:11 [#01245791]
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hmm.. that's probably for ear-wax (which also can cause tinnitus and dizzyness (the doctor was amazed at the abscense of ear-wax in my ears.. apparently they were sparkling clean, and I don't really go out of my way to clean them or anything... weird...)), but I'll ask when I go back to see him after roskilde.
Hmm.. I've been reading a lot about tinnitus lately because of this, and if it doesn't stop on its own I WILL try all the methods, so I'll probably be able to tell anyone that is influenced and annoyed by it if those alternative ways really work...
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-06-18 07:27 [#01245813]
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Not sure if it was for earwax only. Ask your doctor if you really have Meniere (hope not of course). I'm sure NOrway has modern medical methods and techniques as well ;)
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-06-18 07:48 [#01245840]
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Ear wax does not cause that much of a hearing problem. I think that in extreme situations it can cause 20% hearing loss.
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