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I dunno where I'm going with this topic, but lets have some fun with it shall we? It strikes me that older musicians and music teachers refer to all those famous classical artists as being really great for some reason. So I'd thought I came up with a short list of their equivelents that I think come very close but do things in their own unique style: So for classical music in general, I choose Aphex Twin, because he'll be one of those artists that I still recognize as being great years from now, whereas the 'kids' in the future will just see Richard as a 'crazy old classical composer' much like the kids today treat Brahams and Beethoven,etc... Next would be µ-ziq, which I would compare to the Beetles. Again, we all know that the Beetles are great, but lets face it (i dunno about you guys) but I can't listen to them that much. It was great pop when it came out, and the folks that experienced the Beatles as the best new thing they've ever heard - still love hearing beatles songs to this day. They are heavily pop based but with great melodies and did the occassional wierd experimental stuff over their careers delving in different moods and such. Reminds me of µ-ziq. Squarepusher is my Miles Davis. I dont think I really need to explain these much more... Autechre = John Cage Jimpster = Steely Dan etc... |
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yes he is on drugs |
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Venetian Snares = Napalm Death (heavy sound, often imitated, known but not mainstream) |
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Chemical Brothers = Oscar Peterson Aqua = Santana Venetian Snares = Weird Al Yankovic Chris Clark = Creed |
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Aqua = Santana hahha...yeah they both suck. |
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My whole post was bs, in case you werent aware. |
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thats ok, so is his |
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yeah i figured as much. *shoots himself* |
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I don't think there's going to be much left to do with regular music in a few years time - It's getting like that already. I wouldn't be suprised if in a few generations time there weren't even any music producers - I think we'll have fewer and further between every year from now on. What with file shareing, digital piracy, etc... there'll be less money in music - Very few ppl will be able to make a living out of it - The only records being released will be made by ppl on their lunch breaks or sunday afternoons. Richard James and Autechre will be long gone, one day, but they've set the standard (along with many others) - And they've been in a position to do it as a full-time career... Not only that, but there's less and less that can be done these days - Every day there must be a few thousand more tunes clogging up the system. As if it's not an uphill battle for todays' producer to be original, the hill is getting steeper by the day, and the amount of time and energy you can put into climbing it is being sapped by the necessity of a day job. There's no real point rewritting the same music over and over - You can get away with it for a few years - Then it starts to have a very negative effect, and the scene becomes stale and uninspiring. There'll always be more you can do with raw music - But I expect only about 1% of the population will ever appreciate such stuff - Like modern jazz, music that can only be appreciated by other hardcore musicians. Sure, there'll be 192khz, 64-bit, 5-speaker playback standards - And more crazy DSP mangling noise generators - But that's not substance - Just window dressing. Won't keep people interested more than a few months when it's all that's left. Maybe I'm just thinking negative tonight? But there must be at least some truth in what I'm saying.. Things have slowed down a lot in the last decade. |
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But yeah, I think this age, mainly the 20th century, will be remembered as a time when creativity was at an all time high, and Aphex Twin will always be Aphex Twin, always with the same kids getting into his music at a certain age indefinetly. Until we've evolved gills and things - Then, who knows? |
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we'll meet aliens and listen to all their music and abandon our own. Vice versa for the aliens too. |
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Conor Oberst= Nick Drake Juth kiddin'. Although there's a big quality gap between them, Mike Patton reminds me of Frank Zappa in many ways. Sloan= Big Star. Best rock-pop of a generation, just like Big Star. Totally ignored, just like Big Star. Badfinger is another good comparison. |
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i concur. there's not much room to push the envelope - notice how many artists are taking steps backwards, chronologically, music and soundwise in order to sound different. there already is no such thing as originality anymore - and anything that tries to be original is quickly shot down as "too experimental" and/or "unlistenable." i don't think it's people who are the problem - i agree with you that it is musicians and the industry itself to blame. however, who is to say what is art and what is not? what may be crap to one may be amazingly enjoyable to someone else, and vice versa. i hear what you say about the necessity of a day job - i feel that sting. it's really about the connections to get into the music scene, though you must be established to earn these connections, and even if you make it, you're bound to only be swept aside quickly afterwards once you've become a passing trend. However, i have to disagree on the music piracy and file-sharing issue. Sure, it may hamper music sales, but notice that most of the people bitching are big-name labels who suffocate the underground scene anyways by flooding their product onto radio and television. While major labels were reporting major losses back in 2001, many independent labels reported gains - that year was one of Vagrant Records' most successful yet. If anyone is to suffer from filesharing, it is the chain stores and independent establishments that sell music. And besides, most musicians (i may be wrong on this) make most of their money from live performances. |
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conor oberst -bob dylan... (don't ask how) |
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Ha ha! what a load of shit! history is plagued with you negative 'neigh' sayers... Try a leap of faith.... in a few years you're going to look and sound like your dad talking about 'real music', IDM music. Evoloution doesn't stop with you........... You've had your mini music realisation. let some other people have some fun. |
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here here! :) |
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with all due respect, people who think that creativity and originality have left music are not trying hard enough to find those things in music today... due to the insane amount of access that we have to music in this day and age, it's very easy to pass over things before you've given them the proper opputunity (i know because i do it all the time)... i only say this because there is such an insane amount of awesome and original stuff out there right now... i'm still slogging through releases from 2003 trying to come up with a top 50... here's a hint: you might want to look beyond beats-oriented idm... you know, every once and a while... |
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You've just quoted like every nay sayer ever. Pick a decade, and someone has said basically the same thing |
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they both have godawful voices and mainly make it on story telling? except only one of em succeeds. |
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they were both huge.... how did only one of them succeed? |
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