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Reason2.5, keyboards, and OSX
 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2004-06-02 17:43 [#01220180]
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So I've got Reason 2.5 and I'm determined to learn it
proper good, and so henceforth remove myself from the world
of beginner grade music sequencing software.

But I am also an idiot and this is hindering me somewhat. I
have a keyboard, I have Reason 2.5 and I have a Mac running
OS X. I need to somehow mash these three together so my
computer is joined to the keyboard and the keyboard is
controlling Reason. You get me?

Then all I have to do is work out the rest of Reason.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-06-02 17:45 [#01220186]
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Connect you keyboard to you Mac, start reason then go to the
preferences and choose the keyboard in the midi section.

It should be as simple as this but you could always supply
more information, such as keyboard type etc


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-06-02 17:47 [#01220195]
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well my setup is as follows:

Reason 2.5
PowerBook running OS X 10.3.4
Oxygen8 keyboard

i needed to install the drivers before I could get OS X to
recognize the keyboard (OS X needs to load device drivers at
boot time for this).

As soon as OS X saw my keyboard, everything else on my
system saw it - including Reason :)


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-06-02 17:49 [#01220200]
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That's shit...you have to reboot to initialise the device
drivers?


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-06-02 17:51 [#01220201]
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i didn't have to reboot upon first installation, but the
Oxygen8 installs some kind of startup executable to run at
boot time


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2004-06-02 17:55 [#01220217]
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Well the keyboard is some Yamaha thing, PSR220 I think, I
have been told by someone who I don't particularly trust
that this should work fine. What cable do I need, I'm
guessing Midi-Out to USB or something? And where do I get a
driver?


 

offline zazen on 2004-06-02 18:29 [#01220293]
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If its a MIDI keyboard, and your computer does not have a
MIDI port, then you'll need a little USB to MIDI box

e.g. something like this


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2004-06-02 18:31 [#01220300]
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or you could get a midi to the funny port thing (bit like
the monitor port) but i dont know much about mac


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2004-06-02 18:43 [#01220320]
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reasno doesnt allowed recording from output machines like
keyboards, it has keyboard builted up,
the best way would be to record the ,elody, and use it in
reason as wav. file ( redrum panel )



 

offline zazen on 2004-06-02 18:47 [#01220326]
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er .... ur joking I assume ... the best way would be to
record the MIDI signals from the keyboard (which Reason does
let you do) and use them to drive one of the Reason
devices.



 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2004-06-02 18:50 [#01220334]
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i never used reason as a recording machine,
the best way would be to record sounds with cubase, mesh
them up in the way you want, then put them into reason


 

offline zazen on 2004-06-02 18:52 [#01220336]
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your right that Reason can't record audio
but Dannn just wants to use a MIDI keyboard to drive Reason.
which is exactly what Reason is designed for.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2004-06-02 18:53 [#01220337]
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Hang on... I should be able to play something on the
keyboard and have it saved as a sequence of notes in Reason
right? So I can change the instrument and mess with it... if
all I can do is record the sound of what I play I can do
that already. Sorry if I'm talking like a buffoon I'm just
trying to make sure I'm on the same page.


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2004-06-02 18:54 [#01220339]
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well, let it be in your way than.


 

offline zazen on 2004-06-02 18:56 [#01220341]
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one more time, just to clarify:

Reason CAN record MIDI.
So you can play something on the keyboard and save it as a
sequence of notes, as you say.

Reason CANNOT record Audio directly.
although you can get Reason samplers to play any WAV file.


 

offline zazen on 2004-06-02 18:59 [#01220342]
Points: 184 Status: Regular



general Reason stuff:
the people on the Reason forum are usually helpful if you
ask them nicely:
Propellerheads Reason

Also the reason 'Getting Started Guide' and operations
manual are very well written and helpful. You should read
the Getting Started guide cover to cover


 

offline zazen on 2004-06-02 19:03 [#01220343]
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Also, its probably worth mentioning that lots of people use
Reason without a keyboard.
You can just draw the notes into the sequencer with a
mouse.
I suck at keyboards so thats what I do.



 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2004-06-02 19:04 [#01220344]
Points: 7877 Status: Lurker



Excellent, thank you. Thanks y'aaaall.

That little USB/MIDI box is kind of pricey about £40 or
something. I don't think I'll have much luck trying to
pirate hardware either.


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2004-06-02 19:05 [#01220345]
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i use reason also, only reason, i allways use sequencer and
mouse.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2004-06-02 19:08 [#01220349]
Points: 7877 Status: Lurker



Oh that 'without a keyboard' malarkey sounds good... Thats
what I thought I was getting into but the Getting Started
guide said a MIDI controller was a basic requirement. Then
again I am quite an ivory tinkling fingersmith so I would
want to some day be involved in hardwarde plug innery.

Has anyone got and music they've made using Reason 2.5 that
I could have likkle listen to?


 

offline zazen on 2004-06-02 19:10 [#01220350]
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here's my Reason stuff

www.koanotic.org

BTW I'm assuming that your Mac does not have built in
MIDI-in ports?


 

offline zazen on 2004-06-02 19:11 [#01220352]
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also loads of people publish their Reason songs on the
propellerheads site
you can load the Reason Song file and then mess around with
them



 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2004-06-02 19:19 [#01220358]
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You're a ruddy helpful fellow. No I haven't got MIDI ports
on my Mac, I'm going to buy an iBook soon enough though, I
take it that it's not hard to get them with MIDI ports...
Your music sounds fabulous so far.



 

offline zazen on 2004-06-02 19:25 [#01220360]
Points: 184 Status: Regular



thanks!
I dunno about Macs, so I dunno whether iBooks come with MIDI
ports.

i do know that some keyboards (e.g. Oxygen8) come
with USB ports instead of MIDI, which is handy. But probably
doesnt help you.


 

offline zazen on 2004-06-02 19:30 [#01220362]
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looks like my XLT status has been upgraded to addict.
time to go to bed


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2004-06-02 19:37 [#01220367]
Points: 7877 Status: Lurker



What's that drum sample on Go Scoped? I should know this...

I may consider a new keyboard at some point, when the price
of the midi/usb thingy is taken in it's not too bad. I'm not
seeing anything in the way of iBooks with midi ports though,
kinda sucks.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2004-06-02 19:43 [#01220368]
Points: 7877 Status: Lurker



Shit im an addict too.... well it almost 3 am.

I'm a loser.


 


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