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offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-31 03:43 [#01216024]
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.... in 2 weeks, thursday.

I'm so bloody excited it's unreal. I go for 2 weeks martial
arts training with the top japanese master teachers. It'd be
like going from messing with an 8mm video camera to working
on the set of the latest film from your fave director.
(Kubrick, if he was alive)

So anyone got any thoughts on Japan?

As well as the training i can't wait for the food, women,
architecture, and just the whole godsamn alieness of it
all.
Ever since "Shogun" aired in the 80's i've had a thing for
the place. I used to watch the Sumo on ch4, i love the films
of Kurasawa and Ozu and i've been doing Japanese martial
arts for 6 years. Lets go!



 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2004-05-31 03:55 [#01216030]
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japan rocks id love to go


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2004-05-31 03:57 [#01216033]
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wow, you're going to japan - that's really cool. i want to
go there some day.

it just so happens i came across this site today
LAZY_TITLE and when i was searching for that site again
just now, i found this one LAZY_TITLE


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-31 04:10 [#01216039]
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yeh... i'm a little bewildered by the etiquette stuff but
i'll be in Tokyo and they're well used to ignorant "gaijin"
there. I'll be going with my instructor who's been there 6
times already so i'll just follow his lead - he's extremely
big on doing things right. I've been told that i'll be
floored by the gorgeousness of the women. Key_secret knows
what i mean!



 

offline scheme88 from Tokyo (Japan) on 2004-05-31 04:18 [#01216044]
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welcome!! KEYFUMBLER
where do you stay in japan?
if you have a taste for martial arts, i will recommend
watching K-1 in nagoya.


 

offline scheme88 from Tokyo (Japan) on 2004-05-31 04:22 [#01216047]
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ah ok... tokyo :D


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-31 04:23 [#01216049]
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Domo scheme88!

I'll be staying in a town called Noda, north of Tokyo.

Thanks for the link but i am actually more intertested in
Kobudo, not sports martial arts. Have a look here


 

offline scheme88 from Tokyo (Japan) on 2004-05-31 04:30 [#01216052]
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coooooool!! indeed :D



 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-31 04:33 [#01216053]
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Here is a clip of Hatsumi Sensei in action at a seminar in
America a few years ago

give it a minute to load up


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-05-31 04:35 [#01216055]
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sounds awesome. don't hurt anyone! i wonder if you'll ever
come back to old europe...


 

offline diablo on 2004-05-31 04:37 [#01216056]
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beware, the furniture, walls etc are all made of pasta, you
could easily fall through a building while pissed

cool as fk place though!


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-05-31 04:39 [#01216058]
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"you
could easily fall through a building"

haha, be sure to have camera on.


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-31 04:42 [#01216059]
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i'll be taking pictures every 6 seconds

i''l be doing a live journal thingy too.....

if i go to another town in Ireland, i get excited -
never mind the other side of the planet!!



 

offline scheme88 from Tokyo (Japan) on 2004-05-31 05:43 [#01216111]
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wow nipou! awesome. is he a ninja?


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2004-05-31 05:44 [#01216112]
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Have fun! Take some pictures and post them here!


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-31 06:49 [#01216173]
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"is he a ninja?"

No - he just teaches martial arts used by ninja but mostly
martial arts used by Samurai. In fact, ultimately, these
different arts contained the same things, just with
different flavours and sometimes, different philosophies.

Most people who train in this martial art started off
because of the "ninja" conection, but after training a
while, you realise that that is actually a very very small
part of it and not nearly as mysterious as movies make you
think.


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-05-31 07:07 [#01216191]
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great KEYfriend!
also, r40f, thanks for the links...

How expensive is japan really? I mean for fruits/vegetables?
How much for non organic / how much for organic food?

if anyone knows, please let me know.
Also, what fruits are / are not available?


 

offline far-east monkey from psychiatry hospital in osaka on 2004-05-31 07:54 [#01216247]
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i believe you like this pic

Hope you enjoy magical mystery tours in Japan :)


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-05-31 07:57 [#01216251]
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nice pic...

do you know the answer to the question I posted in my
previous post in this thread?
please answer, if you do.

thanks.


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-31 07:57 [#01216253]
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its a good pic!

what are my chances of finding a clubh playing some good
laptop/braindance music? is there a massive underground
scene going on with electronica?



 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-05-31 08:00 [#01216258]
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Biggest club in Japan:


Attached picture

 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-05-31 08:05 [#01216261]
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How popular are noodles as fastfood in Japan?


Attached picture

 

offline far-east monkey from psychiatry hospital in osaka on 2004-05-31 08:10 [#01216263]
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well...
i think vegitable and fruit is not more expesive than you
think.
i don't know details of that cause i recently don't buy it.
Drinking fresh fruits drinks is my habit and it is enough
for my
health..


 

offline far-east monkey from psychiatry hospital in osaka on 2004-05-31 08:14 [#01216265]
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sorry that i couldn't answer against your questions
precisely..

i can't say clearly though we are able to buy many kinds of

rvegitable and fruits which is not from japan because
foreign super markets invading in my country. for instance
Carrefour etc..



 

offline far-east monkey from psychiatry hospital in osaka on 2004-05-31 08:18 [#01216270]
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Apologies for my ignorance.
Actually i am not staying in KANTO area where located in
west japan.
Hence i am unable to give you details of it :(
Probably Tj will be familiar with this matter,im sure..


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-05-31 08:33 [#01216321]
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thanks for your answers!
peace!


 

offline Unseenmachine from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-31 09:47 [#01216404]
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Hey Keyfumbler, are u actually going to get to meet
Hatsumi??? How long have u been training? Here's a nice
interview with Masaaki about his 1st meeting with
Takamatsu...

Dr. Hatsumi meets Takamatsu for the First Time

By Masaaki Hatsumi

(This is from Dr. Hatsumi's 1983 book Ninja Submission in
which he is writing about his first meeting with Toshitsugu
Takamatsu.)

"I have always loved budo since I was very small. I attended
many dojos to be stronger. I trained in Kendo, Karate,
Aikido & boxing. I was confident with Judo, as I had a 4th
Dan. I taught judo at the US army base when I was in my
early 20's. I enjoyed throwing those big Americans. However,
one soldier held my arm with a Waza (technique) similar to
onikudaki. I pretended that it was nothing, but I knew he
beat me. Since those guys actually fought in war, they must
have studied various Waza. From that experience, I started
to doubt what I had been doing. While I looked for a Budo
which is complete and almighty, someone suggested a
tremendous Sensei. This Sensei was Master Toshitsugu
Takamatsu."


 

offline Unseenmachine from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-31 09:47 [#01216405]
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"I went to Kashihara City in Nara to see master Takamatsu .
I had a match with him. Though he was in his 70's, I was
thrown about like a child even though I was 26 years old and
full of confidence. The pain his skill gave to me was
different from any pain I had suffered before. I had only
experienced cold pain, while he gave me hot pain. It was as
if something would explode - I don't know how to say this,
but it was as if my blood would be all sucked up and I felt
as if I would be killed right away. He didn't give me just
one gyaku, but four or five of them at the same time, and I
could not tell where the pain came from. I knew that this
was what I was looking for. I asked to become his student
right away. This was in 1957. At that time, Master Takamatsu
did not take any new students. Since then until he passed
away, he did not teach his mastery to anybody but me. There
were people who received menkyo (manuals, or certificates)
and opened a school bearing a similar name, but they did not
learn from him personally. I was chosen as his successor, so
to speak. At that time, I was still living in Noda City ,
Chiba , and holding an office to fix broken bones.
Therefore, I left my house Saturday evenings, learned from
my master and came home Sunday evenings. I continued this
way of training for 15 years until Master passed away."


 

offline Unseenmachine from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-31 09:48 [#01216408]
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"The more you learn about Master Takamatsu, the more you can
tell that he went through very harsh training himself. For
example, the thickness of his nails were 1/5 inch. He
couldn't cut them with scissors. He used wire cutters. When
he trained in the mountains at a young age, he hit rocks
with his finger tips. He still used his nails to hit us. His
nails were his weapons. In this way, his training was not as
easy as sport. One cold day in winter, he suggested we go
out for training. In this kind of weather, first we warmed
up with Sake & went out. All of a sudden, he pulled his
sword and asked me to catch it. When you work against real
swords, you can not hesitate. So when the sword came to me,
I just put my hands to it. I was able to catch it. Since it
was so cold and my hands were numb and I did not try to grab
it, it worked."



 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-31 09:59 [#01216413]
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yep! Thats where i'm going..... do you train in Bujinkan?
I've been training 6 years in total (spread over about 12
years)... most of it was with people who hadn't trained
directly with Hatsumi in ages. The past year and a half i
found teachers who regularily go to Japan. different level
shit!

its gonna be a total mindfuck

...like going from using etch-a-sketch to hanging out with
Monet!


 

offline Unseenmachine from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-31 10:18 [#01216428]
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Cool, I'm damn envious! I went to the Togakure Ryu Ninjustsu
school in Leeds from age 12 to 16, I'm 26 now so there's
been a long break... My interest seems to have been
rekindled of late, I'm rereading Maasaki's "Ninjutsu -
History And Tradition" which was apparantly mostly ghost
written By Brian Mccarthy.. Yeah take as many pics as u can,
and I for 1 will be very interested in hearing the tales of
ur meeting with the man himself on your return.. :)


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-31 10:25 [#01216433]
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Hey man.. you have to make it your business to get back into
it if it feels liek your been pulled in that direction. Many
folks have come and gone in this art - you mentioned one
already.

There are people out there who have kept up with the real
deal through all the politics and bullshit and its never too
late to jump on board. I recomend Peter Kings Dojo in
Croydon. He has ties to my instructor and is one of the main
European guys.

As Hatsumi said 20 years ago "keep going". Its that simple.



 

offline scheme88 from Tokyo (Japan) on 2004-05-31 10:36 [#01216446]
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i see. i heard "togakureryu-ninpo" and was reminded of
"ninja".


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-31 10:41 [#01216449]
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yes scheme88, unfortuneatly "ninja" are very poplular in
movies and cartoon and so people, even in Japan, thinks any
school calling itself Ninpo is just silly tricks. There are
plenty of books and stuff by Hatsumi, dispelling these
myths. I'm part of an organisation that has Togakure Ryu
Ninpo in its trachings but mostly we study budo.


 

offline Unseenmachine from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-31 10:54 [#01216463]
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Just looking at his site now, Peter King - a personal
student of Hatsumi Soke and Bujinkan Dojo Shihan, with
assistant instructors of Shidoshi rank (+ 5th Dan). Hmm I
might go along an have a gander....
I still have a lot of my old equipment, Bokkens Kama's...
Though my Tabi's no longer fit :)
I'm also interested in starting Kendo, but the price of the
armor seems a tad extravigant...



 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2004-05-31 11:44 [#01216515]
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I WANT TO GO


 

offline tango from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-31 13:14 [#01216606]
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bigtime envious - check out the record stores mate cos the
likes of squarepushers - feed me wierd things in japan has 2
bonus tracks and theres sooo many more cd with extra tracks
- japanese import cd's are taking over my collection slowly
but surely - and i'm of the belief that they are mastered
and made better in japan


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-05-31 13:30 [#01216621]
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but aren't they MUCH more expensive?
people have said japan is like among the most expensive
countries (but Sweden isn't that far from it I think, and
neither is the UK)...


 

offline GIR from Easton on 2004-05-31 13:34 [#01216623]
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bastardo....i plan on going to yokohama next year to study
abroad.....tell me more about the womens! the lifestyle!
things to eat,,...gah....so many questions..


 

offline cie jiks mawp from motion to descend (Australia) on 2004-05-31 16:54 [#01216815]
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the way...

he who makes his underpants out of badger skin will not
suffer lice.



 

offline tango from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-31 18:06 [#01216935]
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to get imported i'd say generally yes - but not if you go to
japan - i'd bet they'd be more reasonably priced - i got the
feed me wierd things cd for $11 the other day from someone
in japan


 

offline 3051 from Vietnam on 2004-05-31 20:07 [#01216998]
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Catapult express?


 

offline brokephones from Londontario on 2004-05-31 20:19 [#01217006]
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I lived in Japan for a year after I graduated High-School. I
was in the rotary exchange program and went a Japanese
Highschool for 12 months. It was the best time of my life. I
felt free from everything I knew. You're going to love it,
man


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2004-05-31 21:58 [#01217045]
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funny, i'm going to japan two weeks after you are.


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-06-01 02:29 [#01217105]
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cool.

I'd really like if someone sorted out this whole
expensive-issue with me... Is really (and I mean the bigger
cities) Japan expensive?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-06-01 02:32 [#01217107]
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it depends. If you're a tourist, they are. If you are from
Japan, they're not. It will always be like that, and it
doesn't only apply to japan.. think about it.. when tourists
come to your country, don't they stay at more upscale hotels
that cost a lot of money just so that they can be safe? but
if YOU want to stay at some hotel in your country, you'll
mostly know where it's safe and cheap, so you'll spend less
money on a hotel.


(btw: did you upload that track you were working on,
_secret?)


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-06-01 02:33 [#01217110]
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yes I bumped the thread for you!
Check it out, it's in the "top 10".


 


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