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offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2004-05-13 22:23 [#01187295]
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"video oddities

There are plenty of questions raised concerning the video
too. The body is completely motionless even as the knife is
brought to bear ? not so much as an instinctive wriggle.

More graphically, some claim that cutting the throat's
artery would cause a significant amount of blood to gush
out. But little emerges and when the head was raised ? not a
drop of blood is seen to fall."

LAZY_TITLE

intresting facts. i'm not really sure it's real now.


 

offline GIR from Easton on 2004-05-13 22:32 [#01187300]
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the bad thing about this to me is, im starting to actually
take word on conspiracy theories dealing with our
government..


 

offline brokephones from Londontario on 2004-05-13 22:41 [#01187307]
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Jugular cut = Huge amount of blood


 

offline bryce_berny from chronno (Canada) on 2004-05-13 22:41 [#01187310]
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I question it, as I stated on the beheading sad face thread.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-05-13 22:46 [#01187313]
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...what? When he holds up the head you can see the streams
of blood falling down, but after a few inches you can't see
it since the video isn't good enough to catch small drops
falling quickly.


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-13 22:47 [#01187314]
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That article raises some good points..

and as soon as we can say its fake we can all joke about it
and say lots of SUB ZERO... WINS!.... FATALITY jokes. etc
etc.

heh


 

offline brokephones from Londontario on 2004-05-13 22:49 [#01187316]
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Yeah but there would be HUGE amounts if it was real. Not
just drip drip drip


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-05-13 22:52 [#01187317]
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Okay. Did you also see the video where he is alive and says
his name and where he is from? I guess it's possible that
he is sitting there dead in front of them, but he doesn't
fall over. "Not a sign of struggle". He can't do much when
he's all bound up and a bunch of guys are holding him down.
It also takes about 15 seconds of cutting if I remember, so
most of the blood is probably all over the floor, but the
contrast is too bad to see in the shadow. I was going to
watch the higher quality video again, but it's unavailable
now from www.homelandsecurityus.com.


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-13 22:52 [#01187318]
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GUSHING!


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-05-13 22:55 [#01187319]
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I think that article is retarded and it's just a bunch of
these internet blog dudes sitting around trying to act like
news analysts. Bullshitt-t-t-t.


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-13 22:58 [#01187320]
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so... sub zero doesnt win??


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-05-13 22:58 [#01187321]
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And by the way you guys reacted to it, it sounded like
you've never seen a real life person get their head sawed
off with a knife before. Now you're some sort of expert on
what it would look like, and what is fake?


 

offline chaosmachine from Ottawa (Canada) on 2004-05-13 23:13 [#01187327]
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from google news..

Al-Qaida says beheading video faked
The Spoof (satire), UK - May 11, 2004
Al-Qaida leaders have said that the video showing an
American civilian getting beheaded in Iraq is a fake. They
say it has been ...

interestingly, the article has been removed.. it was here:

http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s3i3578

guess it was too close to the truth to be considered humor.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-05-13 23:13 [#01187328]
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HAHAHA

Some people crack me up.

Anyway, I still haven't watched this video, but I did force
myself to look at some still images... I saw them holding
his head up to the camera. Haunting, and it really, really,
really pissed me off.


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-05-13 23:38 [#01187350]
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strange indeed.


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2004-05-13 23:49 [#01187354]
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id be so happy if it was fake


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-13 23:58 [#01187355]
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can you point to your avatar and say that?

<---- like this!



 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2004-05-14 00:00 [#01187357]
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<----- id be so happy if it was fake


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2004-05-14 00:01 [#01187358]
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ok i did it but WHY?????? and not why form clouddead
actually why


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-14 00:08 [#01187359]
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B-)


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2004-05-14 00:09 [#01187360]
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WHYYYYY GOD DAMNIT WHY?????? *fallsto the floor charlton
heston styleee)


 

offline ifkardo from 785.8 mb of radio babylon (Equatorial Guinea) on 2004-05-14 00:10 [#01187361]
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Nick Berg's dad is pissed... at the us government, why is
this not an issue?


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-05-14 00:12 [#01187362]
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I never said anything about that.


 

offline ifkardo from 785.8 mb of radio babylon (Equatorial Guinea) on 2004-05-14 00:16 [#01187366]
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oh shit, i didn't mean to hit the reply to thing for your
post sorry. honest mistake on my part. but anyways, he's
pissed.


 

offline bryce_berny from chronno (Canada) on 2004-05-14 00:31 [#01187380]
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I just saw the video. It is definitely real, as far as I
can tell.


 

offline bryce_berny from chronno (Canada) on 2004-05-14 00:33 [#01187382]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

offline rezpeni on 2004-05-14 01:01 [#01187405]
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This was all done through animatronic puppets by the guys
who did star wars.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-05-14 01:07 [#01187408]
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I'd say it was real. There is a strong possibility that he
would have suffered a heart attack before or as the knife
started to cut. This would lead to the absence of gushing
blood. They found Nick Bergs beheaded body as well didn't
they? What do Al-Queda or whoever have to gain by a fake
video? If it was exposed as fake they would lose the
respect of the people they are supposedly fighting for.


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2004-05-14 01:11 [#01187409]
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yes but who ssays al-queda faked it the us could have faked
it for propoganda purposes.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-05-14 01:18 [#01187411]
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It has done the US damage...they aren't going to fake
something and claim it is revenge for their actions in Abu
Ghraib prison. The US never take responsibility for their
actions, they just make it look as if they do.


 

offline sneakattack on 2004-05-14 01:21 [#01187412]
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yes yes. A great way to undermine all of the apologies
going on for the tortures and other things (the helicopter
video which was circulating, etc.), is to consider whether
or not any apologies would have taken place had
information not been leaked
..

..of course not


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2004-05-14 01:22 [#01187413]
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lol sounds like cartmans flash backs. but seriously it would
get them back on the publics side because face it the public
will be thinking if they did that to our people we should do
horrible things to thiers. but i dont know im not even sure
its fake it looked pretty real to me


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-05-14 01:28 [#01187415]
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97%+ of the public will never see the video, all they are
aware of is that a man was beheaded in a bit of a brutal
way. The method of killing seems brutal, but in text form
it doesn't sound much worse than the emotive language that
has been used int he media to describe the conditions in
Iraqi jails.


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2004-05-14 01:32 [#01187417]
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as the piece says
"Some discussions focus on the timing of the video's release
- guaranteed to divert attention from the outrage over US
abuse of Iraqis."


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-05-14 01:43 [#01187422]
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The video is supposed to be a direct response to the
treatment of their Iraqi brothers in jail. Hence the timing
is probably about right.

It sounds to me that people who can't handle what they have
seen are looking for excuses to either explain away the
images, or the concept that humans can be so evil towards
other humans.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-05-14 01:44 [#01187424]
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Also

"guaranteed to divert attention from the outrage over US
abuse of Iraqis."

If anything it has drawn more attention to it.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-05-14 02:12 [#01187430]
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don't we just love media?

YES, YES WE DO!


 

offline brokephones from Londontario on 2004-05-14 13:57 [#01188550]
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I want that Colin Powell album.


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-05-14 15:46 [#01188711]
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god, you people are annoying


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-05-14 16:01 [#01188729]
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That aside, It could be a possibility that he was killed
than te beheading was edited in later. For what ever reason.


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-05-14 16:03 [#01188745]
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What's even stranger is his chance encounter with Moussaoui.
Fucking insane. Maybe the whole family is CIA. Maybe.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-05-14 16:03 [#01188746]
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You're what is wrong with modern America.


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-05-14 16:07 [#01188770]
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I think you are annoying so I must be what's wrong with
modern America..Go eat some blood sausage. Matter of fact,
eat my blood sausage.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-05-14 16:09 [#01188778]
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hahaha....

twat.


 


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