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oooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... i've sent my payment through and that's that soon i will be all powerful and mighty in my ability to explode people's heads with only a stereo and 3 seconds of music. |
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isnt it an insane amount of money for a bunch of noise |
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how much did you pay for it?? should be excellent...maybe im going to get it one day :) |
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excellent noise... |
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whoah - that looks awesome - if i had a large amount of money i would most definately purchase that. |
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$500 US which is weird cos it's sold out of australia (where i am) they told me before that i could go $700 AU cash in an envelope and i'm just like, ok but a bit too risky just to save 20 bucks. |
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Shit me! |
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50 cds 2 remix cds added book cd rom bronze medallion shirt cards stickers poster rubber case and so on... |
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yeah there's a place in chicago that has it i think it's like 730 bucks |
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look at the full package description in the special editions section of the other half of the site. |
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i asked at my local record store and they said they had to get it from europe and it would cost me like 1300 as opposed to the 720 AU sort of equivalent i paid for it |
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in the liner notes bit in the shop section, it tells you all the cds that are in it first 2 are: 1. Om Electrique (79) Unreleased Masami Akita discovers electronics and the world is never the same again 2. Metal Acoustic Music (80) The first MERZBOW release ever and the source of much to follow and on it goes... |
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Id' love to own that. FARRRRRRRRRRRRK! Only a 1000 being made? |
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i would have bought one if i had lots of money, maybe. =) (i wasn't sure whether you could still get it or not...) |
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just open up a exe file in a tracker. you'll have the same thing , but cheaper |
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it's not like they're going that fast though, i was going to buy it like 3 months ago and they didn't rush me then. btw postage to US is free, everywhere else is $2 - by courier delivery to your door. |
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oh ive just stained my pants from the excitement, and it'll probably happen again when the thing comes to my door. |
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looks incredible, but way too much money for me. :( i had the same dilemma with the throbbing gristle box set. |
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Bloody hell merzbow is old. How many CD's has he made anyway? I thought he was a harcore animal activist not some gothic porn loving freak.Or mabey both..mmm dogs in latex. I heard he trys to make 10000 songs a year or something ridicilickyous like that. |
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there's a thing goin round that he wants to make 1000 releases, but there's pretty much no chance of that, it's been about 25 years and he's going at about 10 per year average. |
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next thing i'm gonna do is blow every last remaining cent i have on a new stereo so as i can play my new cds loud enough to be worth owning them. |
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o rrite k |
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for that money I'd rather get some other individual releases so you can select the ones you really like most... |
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so anyway i'm now about 17 cds in and the shit is good and seems to get better as you go on. got no time to listen to them though, that's why its taking so long the pornoise series is next but i wanna do them all in one and cant find a 4 hour space to do it in as my exams are very near and i got a lotta homework to catch up on. |
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good god...be careful with yr ears knob...no amount of art is worth risking permanent hearing damage. |
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how do their recordings compare to their live shows, anyway? i have to admit i'm not familiar with merzbow, but i did see them at ATP here two years ago. it was cool as hell...but mostly because it was so VERY loud and like a physical wall of sound with really subtle textures in it. from what i remember, he played just one or two long "pieces". i'd see merzbow again in a heartbeat though. boredoms too, who were at the same show. and of course aphex. (damn, now that i think of it that was a damn good day of music for me.) |
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I wasnt aware that it cost so much! |
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Wonder how these noise artist judge the quality of their own work when they release a new album each moth. Can't imagine any other artists doing that... |
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that's a strange question. are you saying that because an artist is prolific, they are unable to make quality music? or that noise music is generic or disposable? |
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50 CD's? is it really that good? i've never listened to merzbow. |
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check out the site he linked to. there's mp3's you can download and decide whether you like it or not for yourself. |
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the price makes sense to me since it's 52 cds + a lot of other stuff. significantly less than 10 bucks per album. i just can't afford it! |
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No. I don't listen much to noise, so I'm not the one to judge. But other artists are not making five tracks a day and release everything they have made. Can you imagine Autechre or Radiohead or any other electronica/pop/rock-band do the same thing? If Autechre (my favourite "band") released a cd every month and said that they were gonna release 1000 cd's before they retired, I would think it was ridiculous, and I would give up to look for the few quality tracks that would be somwhere in the stuff they were releasing. So I wonder : -Is Merzbows music "the emperors new clothes?" (you know the fairy tale?) -Is noise music easier to make, so that one can release a cd a month, and the quality is still high? -or is it not possible to judge the quality of noise music the same way as other music? Hope you get my point here. |
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some artists are just prolific. but i see his point...when Merzbow says he wants to release 1000 cds before he retires, it makes me think he's more concerned with quantity than quality. |
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well-put - i see your point. i'm not going to speak for merzbow, obviously, and i am not exactly sure about the amount of time spent/complexity of his processes/how much he cares, but i don't think it's relevent how much music an artist makes to the quality of that music. additionally, the time it takes to create art shouldn't necessarily be related to the quality of the art. suppose, for instance, someone made the best paintings of the color yellow ever seen and it only took that person ten minutes to make each piece? it's still the best painting of the color yellow, isn't it? my feeling is that the finished artwork is the important thing, not the process or the complexity or the time it takes (unless, of course, those are to be considered specifically as part of a work). |
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Yep. Norway's noise-master Lasse Marhaug have actually said the same thing about 1000 releases. And if artist in other genres said something like that, they would be laughed at. |
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not to mention the fact that 1000 cds in a serious artist's lifetime isn't that unbelieveable. if you spend all your time dedicated to your art, then that much of an output seems appropriate. |
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"And if artist in other genres said something like that, they would be laughed at." i disagree with this statement. why is it unthinkable that in a person's lifetime they couldn't make 1000 cds or 1000 drawings or 1000 paintings or stories? and why couldn't they be good or great works of art? this type of comment seems totally out of touch and dogmatic to me... |
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you could also make comparisons to warhol's factory, spitting out work that he never even touched...some of which he may have never even seen until it was hung...still, he's considered a great artist |
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I see your point. But if any painter made a new painting every day, and "released" it on the market, people would look strange at him. I agree with you that it is the finished artwork that matters, but I always have wondered how it seems like the quality of noise music seems to be judged different than all other music. |
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I'm not saying that one couldn't draw 1000 good drawings in a lifetime. But could you point out other artists that's releasing 10 releases+ every year, and where everybody seems to agree that it is the best stuff that is? |
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i'm not saying it's precedented or even practical to release so many albums or artworks to a market at such a rate. in fact, it wouldn't surprise me if someone who tried to do something of that nature had a very hard time selling their products. but of course, all mediums of art are a bit different in the way they relate to commerce. it would be very difficult to go into a discussion about this aspect of art - i was limiting my comments to creation/finished product/reception by others. i don't think it's relevant to discuss the marketing aspects of this idea we're talking about because popularity does not equal quality. i don't know if the quality of any music can be judged accurately the same way as any other music. can one really say which is better, rock or jazz? i don't think so. that's why there are dividing lines - to accomodate the multitude of different styles and philosophies of music. |
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In my honest opinion its a waste of money. But I'm sure you dig Merzbow much more than I do, so hope you enjoy it. Its an amazing package for a fan.. |
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Agreed. Not that noise is better/worse than other genres, but I find it quite interesting what the artists or the hardcore fans of noise think about this question. I hope some of the Merzbox-buyers can answer this. Is Merzbow all Merzbow to you? Or can you pick one of the cds he has released and say; "this album is very poor compared to his previous/later albums", like we do on all other artists? I'm quite fascinated that people can buy the Merzbox, since noise doesn't do anything for me. I saw Satanstornade live once, and I found it interesting how some of the audience head-banged and raved around like it was some ordinary techno-party. Maybe they heard something I didn't? Or maybe they were just trippin on something? A combination most likely. |
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yeah, when i saw merzbow most of us just stood there in awe. i remember being very aware of the physicality of my rib cage for some reason. i actually think it's very much sit down music. interpretive dance could get dangerous. |
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little pricey considering it's still being sold new places. forced exposure has it for 550 new. |
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$1,050?!?!?!?!?! |
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You must be quite the fan! |
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you must be quite the tossface! nobody cares |
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