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I'm going there in 6 weeks time for 2 weeks and so have got myself a lingaphone thingy. It seems straighforward enough and i think i'll do the learn-the-key-phrases approach rather than try and systematically work out the rules of grammer and shit. Interesting features: * No future tense - they just stress the present tense differently * They drop "i", "mine", "am" etc when its obvious you're the person in question ... so instead of saying "this is my book".. they just say "this book"... how cool is that So anyone out there got any experience with this language or of rules of social etiquette when there? Domo! |
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Sounds interesting. I'm taking Japanese in school next year and I'm looking forward to it. All the languages I've taken so far have been Indo-European so they all have a lot in common. It's a fun change to learn something totally different. A language related question: Why the hell isn't there a plural form for you in English? That's rather strange... |
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there officially is : "ye". .. as in ... "Will all of ye shut the fuck up?" However it isn't used much as it sounds like olde english. Coloquially i'd say "Will all of yous shut the fuck up?". |
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You should contact bogdan raczynski, he knows some japanese |
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.. and squarepusher loves playing there so i guess he's got a word or 2.. "konichiwa motherfuckers!!!!" |
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I got a book and tape sitting on my shelf I should probably get back to one day. it's collecting dust. |
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I can count up to 10 in japanese |
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Keyfumbler - what are you going to japan for? Holiday? |
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i LIVE in japan. sup. |
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i'm going on a 2 week training course with the grandmaster of Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu, Dr. Masaaki Hatsumi. Its a non-competitive martial art derived from 9 Koryu - old japanese martial arts schools. So it'll be like going to Hollywood to work with your fave director after studying film in a technical college. It'll be familiar territory but an absoltue headfuck as well as next-level shit. oh boy! I hope to go clubbing there too! |
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yeh but what can you count in japanese pOgO? They use different notation for people, animals, objects. Its clazy! |
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harakiri Japanese ritual suicide by self-disembowelment. Seppuku is the preferred term in Japan. the abdomen(hara) was chosen as the target of the suicidal knife becouse ancient Japanese regarded it as the place where the soul resides and the source of action-derived tension. additionally, the abdomen, at the physical center of the body, was regarded as the cradle of the individual's will, boldness, spirit, anger, and generosity. |
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When I went to Japan for a year, I learned some beforehand at . They have very tight, easy to follow lessons. The downside is that they have a small monthly fee. Highly reccomended, though. |
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well i got a month to go and am only staying for 2 weeks so i'll stick with linguaphone and the shit-load of japanese movies i'm gonna rent out over the next few weeks.... i actually got a lend of the "Shogun" 9 hour DVD recently and i remember there is a lot of spoken japanese in that with good old Dick Chamberlin learning the lingo with that purty "onna". |
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Shogun was an awesome tv series, and the book was even better. |
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So any freaky rules to watch out for? i heard leaning on walls/buildings is a no-no but you can piss anywhere you like? (handy) What about some electronica music bars/clubbing? |
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I've never encountered that rule, so I'm not sure. As for bars/clubs, that all depends on where in Japan you are going. |
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tachishon only drunkard does it in tokyo :) |
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quote: "Interesting features: * No future tense - they just stress the present tense differently * They drop "i", "mine", "am" etc when its obvious you're the person in question" this goes for finnish as well |
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Yesterday (what a coincidence) prof mentioned that in Japanese sentence structure is way different than in english. his example was "The cat chased the mouse" -english "The cat the mouse chased" -japanese Anyway, this is not weird to me since in my lang. (Hrvatski) words can be jumbled all around and it will still make sense. |
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ichi ni san yon go ruku nana hatchi qu ju not spelt correctly at ALL though =o) |
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ah so de su ka? or something |
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ya four is wrong |
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"de su ka" HAHAHAHA I won't even tell you what it could mean in Russian! hehehehe... |
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no prob! 4 = yon = si |
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Its easy to count past 10 too. Since ten is "ju", you just add the number after the ten. Example: ju= ten, san = three So to say thirteen, you say jusan |
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That isnt the way I learnd it though =os Although it was a very very very VERY long time ago |
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nan de su ka? 8D |
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so, desu ka! I didn't believe u could piss anywhere by the way! I knwo its not like ireland on a weekend. |
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it's amazing how much I can pick up when I listen to anime without subtitles, I should really invest in a bit more knowledge about it though, one day I plan on going to japan, but it's proabably one of the most expensive places to go in the world, so It's gonna be a wait.... |
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Watashi wa kaizoku!!! |
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I've completed 2 semesters of Japanese now. I'm better at writing it than speaking it though. I know all 46 hiragana, 46 katakana, and I learned about 200 kanji so far, mostly on my own. It is quite a logical, straightforward language, generally speaking. I still have slight difficulty with the partical words though, like I get ha and ga confused in a sentence. I don't feel I'm ready to go to Japan yet though. I still need to take at least 4 more semesters I think in order to be confident in communicating in Japanese beyond the minimum survival level. |
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i'm studying japanese in university i didn't know about the stress on the future sense though... 4 = shi = yon but "shi" also means "death"... so 4 is an unlucky number in japan... ichi ni san shi/yon go loku shichi/nana hachi kyuu tou about "harakiri", it's not a real japanese word in fact: it's how strangers read "seppuku" in kanji, but with the wrong pronunciations of the kanji... (with all the different lectures, and the exceptions, it can be hard or even sometimes impossible to find a word in a japanese dictionary - often, you have found all the kanji composing the word but can't find the word because it uses a special pronunciation or something like that! =)) |
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there is the kanji dictionary in japan and the kanji(about reading & meaning) which isn't known can be looked up. japanese schoolchildren use it quite often. please use it, when you don't understand pronunciation ;) |
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hmm, maybe i should start learning japanese...i need a change... |
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nihongo wa, tyotto wakarimas. skoshi benkyo shimashita. ano, boku no nihongo wa tyotto dame ne. |
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well colour me impressed. i'm only starting but looks like Japanese is popular here.... anyone translate evolume? |
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haha! I've only picked up a bit through animé... like Yorokonde (happy. no referrence to the person (I, you, they) needed) e youksho (welcome!) yokata (thanks) I think... I've picked up more chinese than japanese, though.. been watching more Kung-Fu movies than animé. chinese is, however, very hard to put in roman characters. for instance, depending on pronounciation and pressure, "wu" can have five different meanings. in japanese and tibetan, tonality isn't that important (not completely un-important, but less...). for instance: Jiu Quan (Drunken Master). Pronounced more like "sju kqouwen" with kqouwen said as fast as possible, starting normal and going up in tone, I think. also in chinese, polite phrases are repeated. as in welcome, which becomes welcome, welcome when translated, and please, please. also noticed that things that have been discovered first, and therefore got a word first often is just extended when something similar is discovered. like the word for door and mouth is the same... |
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see I learnt it with yon and nana =o) |
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So, desu ne! <- limited vocabulary |
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Evolume said: I can understand a bit of japanese, i studied. But its a bit crap. |
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hahaha! I wonder.. could you clarify certain animé titles for me? like Hajime no ippo, Full moon o sagashite (i know full moon, but what the FUCK is "sagashite?" it sounds like some saga that is shite...) and Shin Shirayukihime Densetsu Pretear? |
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Oops i didnt mean evolumes japanese was written in a crap way, i meant he himself said his japanese wasnt very good. |
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I figured that, and therefore assumed that you knew japanese. thus the question about the titles, which I assume are japanese. |
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scheme88 > no, you don't get it - i do have a kanji dictionary too! but even if you have the pronunciations of the kanji, sometimes it's difficult to find a world composed of several kanji, sometimes they have 'kun' pronunciations instead of 'on' like they normally do in worlds composed of kanji, or 'kun' with the ten ten on the first syllab, or even another pronunciation which is totally different - like for "ashita" or "ijyou"... |
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I think in that situation sagashite means searching for. Hajime means first time, no means of, ippo I am not sure in that context. The other one i have no idea. |
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ok. maybe someone else knows? |
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Actually, sagashite probably means please search for |
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so.. "please search for the full moon," then? |
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so TokyoJo... hows life now comapred to Japan? I remember you nearly stayed there over a chick or something? |
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