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offline mortsto-x from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-05-04 02:08 [#01172176]
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So what is the point? Why don't people just use the lowest
price they are willing to sell the item for be the starting
price?


 

offline mask from the city of dresden (Germany) on 2004-05-04 02:12 [#01172177]
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dont they?


 

offline mortsto-x from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-05-04 02:17 [#01172178]
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No. Example

Why start at £10, if you have no intention to sell the item
at this price? I am a routined e-buyer, but haven't sold
anything yet. Maybe there are some extra fees if you have
high start prices?


 

offline mask from the city of dresden (Germany) on 2004-05-04 02:26 [#01172181]
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the fees are based on the categories you sell your stuff in.


 

offline Neto from Ecatepec (Mexico) on 2004-05-04 02:52 [#01172192]
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i think the point is to generate expectation about a "low"
reserve price, only to find is not really that low :D


 

offline Phobiazero from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2004-05-04 04:38 [#01172255]
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yes, a lower price might get people to bid and try.... maybe
they'll reach reserve?


 

offline pOgO from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-05-04 05:47 [#01172290]
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sometimes the seller will e-mail the higest bidder, even if
the reserve is not met and sell it anyway

say for example the reserve was £100 and the last highest
bid was £95, the seller will sell it anyway


 

offline Phobiazero from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2004-05-04 08:05 [#01172471]
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good point


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-04 11:45 [#01172851]
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which kind of corrupts the whole idea of eBay.


 

offline Phobiazero from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2004-05-04 11:49 [#01172858]
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not really


 

offline nacmat on 2004-05-04 11:50 [#01172861]
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agree

I think the "reserve prize" feature is a way of cheating the
bidder

I dont bid for items with reserve prize, so if I bid and it
says reserve not met, or reserve met, I just dont bid again,
and as I ususally bid with low quantities I am ususally
outbidded


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-05-04 11:54 [#01172868]
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agree, it's pretty silly.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-04 11:55 [#01172869]
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yes, I think it does. it's giving the seller much to much
the upperhand, being vague about prices.

it's being unfair about how much money you'd like. first you
say, "oh no, nobody won because the reserve wasn't met, but
oh what the hell, I'll take you anyway".

that might be nice for the "winner", but not so nice or fair
for other potential bidders.

I know a LOT of eBay bidders (myself included ofcourse) who
won't even bother with 'reserves' - it smells too much of a
greedy seller.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-04 11:55 [#01172872]
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much too much, even.

and the last point was a sidethought, btw.


 

offline Phobiazero from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2004-05-04 11:57 [#01172875]
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the basic idea is to sell to the highest bidder and that
exactly what happens in pogo's scenario. it does not corrupt
ebay.


 

offline Phobiazero from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2004-05-04 12:03 [#01172884]
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nacmat: if you decide to sell your rarest records - would
you start with $1? althought you know it's worth at least,
let's say $100?


 

offline nacmat on 2004-05-04 12:07 [#01172890]
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I understand you.

the problem is that I have never been a seller at ebay, so I
dont know the rules

my question is:
cant you just put a higher starting prize?
so if you wont selll it for less than 90 $, then just set
90$ as starting prize

is that possible?
is it more expensive the fee if the starting prize is
higher?


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-04 12:07 [#01172891]
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don't you see how unfair that feels?

it's like asking people to shout out prices at first and
then at your own whim chosing the highest.

(I mean, fact is: you're then dealing outside of eBay.)

it's taking away the tiny bit of control bidders can
possibly have.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-04 12:08 [#01172893]
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yes, you can.

the fee rises with the asking price.

but then at least you would be being upfront about it.


 


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