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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-05-03 22:35 [#01172042]
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Some other issues for me...
I could be wrong but, I feel some vibes from you I'm not thrilled about...I want you to read this & be clear on some stuff OK?
One other ISSUE I have about all this too is painfree dosn't find, cultivate & release artists for the benefit of other labels...the material was put on the site for ppl wanting to buy the record...not really looking to help ppl & fledgling little labels we don't know...so in future refer all enquiries about artists & music from the PAIN site to me or I won't help you out at all ever...deal?
"i heard > dysphemics tracks on the site and i think he's really talented (NO SHIT?)
and i thought > he would go good on the compilation."
-shit like this does not impress me,,,,of course he's taleted & of course lots of ppl want to sign him up: Thats why he is signed already!!!!! His material will most likely be the freshest & possibly the best on your compilation, in my opinion, he are doing YOU A FAVOUR, don't forget that. I put his MP3's up for punters not for fledgling labels to pick n choose music they want dude. I see the benefit of dealing with you...kind of...but if you continue to display a lack of ethics -or ignore what I am saying to you, we will can it...no matter how good the opportunity may be.
So far...I don't like your style saskrotch...I don't like americans much
either but you may be of some benefit to julian in terms of exposure so I
will deal with you...If you ever try & bullshit me in the future & go direct
to sign up an artist I have developed...you'll pay dearly for
it...understand? You treat my label and artists with the respect we deserve
or fuck off. It's that simple.
I work really hard to develop dysphemic so NO any old jerk can not roll up & take what they want? That material wasn't even out & you wanted it...is this how you find ppl? Go to labels you think are too small to give a fuck & try n sign up artists already signed eh? perhaps you should look at how you find artists, you seem to be doing it the l
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-05-03 22:36 [#01172044]
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you seem to be doing it the lazy way::: i.e. someone else discovers them....you try and hawk them?...NO WAY... you have to play ball the way we want.
THESE ARE THE RULES if you want to work with us....
1. If Enduser dosn't appear on this CD then neither will dysphemic.
2. Dysphemic retains all ownership of the track he supplies & can do what he wishes with that track at any time in the future. You own nothing -for ever -or the deals off.
3. No more, sending him stuff (emails n info) exclusively, the day after I
asked you to deal with me direct, you did -as if I am some petty obstruction to you? GET THIS INTO YOUR HEAD:::.We found him first & He asked me to talk to you...stop advising him or telling him your ideas on what he should do...we are good family friends & we talk about everything he asked me to get involved so don't give me attitude or act like I'm getting in the way...I can shut you down in minutes & julian won't even speak to you so be greatful we care & happy to get a cool track off a great artist you KNOW FUCK ALL ABOUT OK?.
I feel you don't seem to be upfront & honest so you'd best do what we say & prove us wrong hey? In my opinion, considering the style you approached him in...you are lucky we are still speaking to you...do u understand?
4. If dysphemic feels he gets nothing out of this at any point he can pull out at any stage that he sees fit. I'm not crash hot on dysphemic being on CD R either.
Thats the rules, I hope your clear on a bit more now? I hope so. Now let's sort something eh?
stay in touch. Mic
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-05-03 22:39 [#01172045]
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Smack.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2004-05-03 22:41 [#01172046]
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Mic sounds like a real gentleman, eh?
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-05-03 22:42 [#01172047]
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Give me his e-mail and I will sign him up for some FREE PORN!
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-05-03 22:42 [#01172048]
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oh yeah and here's mister "mic main$tream"'s site LAZY_TITLE
you may notice that about 80 percent of the releases are his and the other 20 percent are compilations which feature him
also you may notice his music is shit
also he fucking treats his artists like property instead of people
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-05-03 22:45 [#01172051]
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cunt! bad cunt, not good.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-05-03 22:47 [#01172052]
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also dysphemic is no where near the best on the comp considering the line up so far: Amen Wayons, Dirqual, Drop the Lime, Dysphemic, Electric Kettle, Enduser, Pale, Hoggle, Saskrotch, Skeeter, Widget Phreak, Wisp.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-05-03 22:48 [#01172053]
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yeah if i didn't like dysphemics shit so much (and also he seems like a nice guy) i would tell him to fuck right off
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-03 22:55 [#01172059]
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Wait wait what's the deal here?
What a shit eating prick. I cannot express how much this guy needs a brick to the perpetually flaccid penis.
This sounds really egotistical but its meant to be an offer: if anything I ever do sounds fresh enough feel free to dangle it infront of his pussy ass face and say "Naw he'll never identify with you because orange dust thinks you're a little bitch and the industry is going to trample your sad ass".
Sorry if that sounds conceited or anything :\
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-05-03 22:58 [#01172060]
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hahaha naw it's cool
like i said if he gives me more shit i'll just drop dysphemic, tell mic to eat my nuts and tell dysphemic that i'm sorry he can't be on a compilation (which would only help his dismal "celebrity" since he's stuck on a shitty austrailian label focused around the owner) because his friend is a cunt
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-03 23:06 [#01172061]
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Nah fuck that lemme get my hands dirty can I email him this?
"Word to the wise: artists are not property of labels. I've learned of some problems in the ways you guys conduct your business and I'm removing sending a small catalogue of my stuff to your label as free listening / demo material and I know a few other talented artists who are extremely likely to have done the same.
Labels work for artists. without labels the music still exists but without the artists the labels don't mean shit."
I'm stirring MAJOR shit but who cares, I love a fight. Besides, Toecutter will have heard of me. He'll know who I am, in a good way (some of my old laptop heads moved over there and have strong ties with him, and they were really positive about what i was doing)
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-03 23:11 [#01172062]
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fuckit I'm sending it!
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2004-05-03 23:14 [#01172063]
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That label owner sounds like a guy who's not got any sort of legal rights over Dysphemic, and is shitting himself and it's coming out in raw pubescent aggression.
If I were you I'd continue to deal with Dysphemic exclusively - In my scene we have to deal with pushey dick head label owners and managers all the time! The only way is to go over their heads and forget them - If he's got a proper contract with his artists then he's got nothing to worry about...
Otherwise he's just an unimportant little man who doesn't know how to interact with people sensibly or politely.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2004-05-03 23:18 [#01172064]
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Agreed. Mic might as well go back to playing with his little plastic army men (or musicians, if you will) if he refuses to let people express themselves. His ego needs to be shot.
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-03 23:19 [#01172065]
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Hahahah! I know Mic Main$tream and Dysphemic
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-05-03 23:21 [#01172066]
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Mic sounds like a total shallow cunt. Whata fuckface.
OD: DO IT MAN!
J Swift + Pachi: I also agree
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-03 23:37 [#01172073]
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Yeah I sent it, and added a little "If you wanna know who I am some of your artists migh know of me, I used to roll with the 8 Bit Recordings crew in Perth"
I know the email also comes off as like I think I'm bigger than I am, but realise it's all a front. I know I'm just another mp3 kid, but I gotta make em feel like they really LOST something, ya dig?
:D:D Hope ya don't mind, Roygbivcore. I think me and Toecutter know of each other, unsure about any others....
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-05-03 23:44 [#01172075]
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nah it's cool if anything happens i'll just email dysphemic and let him know exactly what went down instead of what mic probably told him
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-05-03 23:44 [#01172076]
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toecutter is SUCH A NICE GUY eh?
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-03 23:48 [#01172077]
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Haha! yeah Mic has been like this for ages. funny shit.
a shame you didnt contact Jules thru www.shitwank.com which is run by his brother! who is passenger of shit.
the recent dysphemic stuff is awesome, seen him play a couple of times.
I personally think that it should be the artists decision,
and hey he's comming down here with Toecutter later in the month, I can punch him in the mouth if you wish!
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-03 23:52 [#01172080]
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I've never talked to Toecutter or actually heard any of his stuff, but I've heard OF him loads and I know Noistruct has some kind of ties with him and I think he's given him CDs of mine (hehe Noistruct is cool, he's really positive about my music, the equivalent of a kick in the ass but not by being negative, tops bloke)
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-03 23:53 [#01172081]
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If you really want dysphemic on the comp. let me know, coz I might be able to pull a few strings for ya!
OD - Yeh YEH You tell 'em mate, :D could you imagine Adam Ninja in a fight? teehehe
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-05-03 23:53 [#01172082]
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well i tried to but the email on his site was wrong (they left of the .au at the end)
so i had to ask him because he was the only one i knew that i thought would know
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-05-04 00:22 [#01172089]
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hahaha man i just heard back from him after getting that email from od
he got pissed
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:25 [#01172090]
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POST POST POST!!!!!!
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:26 [#01172091]
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I'm such a shit stirrer, let's see if he replied.
Adam Ninja shouldnever have to be in a fight, he's a fucking champion, I can't imagine anyone having a reason to fight him but hehe yeah I know what ya mean :)
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-05-04 00:27 [#01172092]
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i wonder what his reaction is if you say hello to him.
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:30 [#01172095]
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Hahahah they indeed did get very pissed!
> > Nobody owns anything & they never have. Who are you & why are you in
> contact > > with me? > > > > hey mate...would you care to explain who u are?\ > > > > . I don't know why you are emailing me about this...If it's to do with
> > saskrotch...I'd suggest you mind your own biz. The artist is a young
guy, > a > > family friend, he & his brothers & folks...who I am lending money too to
> > start their own label asked me to get involved. I don't make a cent out
of > > putting their stuff out, they tell me what they do/ don't want to be on
> > ....ha ownership...what a fucken joke. > > > > adam 8 bit makes cheesy latino breaks in melbourne now & diss's his past
> so > > whats it to me that you rolled with him? > > > > Why are you writting to me? Really, I don't get it?
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:30 [#01172096]
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I'd probably be like...
HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:31 [#01172097]
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and then I get this from the same bloke. Dunon who it's from though
> oh yeh ok 8bit records...so what? thats cool n all...we are not having any
> problems? & we have a backlog of artists to put out too...whats the
problems > you heard of? PAIN is an institute, not a label, we do all sorts of
things, > the artists retain full control...the only person I deal with is my world
> wide distro MArk N. We had lunch on saturday & we are still great
> friends...I can't imagine there is much truth behind what you hear because
> apart from Mark N, the person I have spoken too recently abput labels or
> "affairs" is saskrotch. > Why don't you call mark N - he will tell you how & what & who I am. Go
> on...bloodyfist records newcastle...ask him what type of person I am...I
> dare you. > > The artist sakrotch was after was least impressed with his approach, I'm
> just sticking up for julian. > > you got a problem with friends helping each other>? > > talk to the artists. > > peace who ever/ what ever you are... > sorry to say this...u listen to way too much shit.
I dunon who all these people are haha
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:32 [#01172098]
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hmmm I'm in over my head. I keep getting this nagging feeling that I should care somewhat but it's .... just ..... not..... happening....
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-05-04 00:33 [#01172099]
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i don't like ppl that say hello to much......HELLO OWN IT'S RIGHTS TO IT'S OWN HELLO's. hEElo!!!!!!!!
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:34 [#01172100]
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I can't believe he talked shit to Adam Ninja, fucking NOBODY talks shit to Adam Ninja. That's like saying Bill n Ted were assholes, it just doesn't happen.
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:35 [#01172102]
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I like how he mentioned having lunch with Mark N.
fuck this is fuckin weird,
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:37 [#01172104]
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Hahah this thread ROCKS! man my xltronic crew and real life crew are clashing together!
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:37 [#01172105]
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Who the shit is julian and mark n?
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:39 [#01172106]
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Mark N = runs bloodyfist records Julian = dysphemic Mic = main$tream
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:40 [#01172107]
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The funny thing is I .... sort of don't like breakcore. Meaning any opinion of bloody fist and all that means very little to me. I've been asked to get into contact with them on several occasions when I had ties with 8 BIT and never did because..... I just ...haven't heard any of the australian breakcore that doesn't sound like amateurish tripe to me. ARGH I hate to say it becaus eI',m sure they'r great people and I'm sorry if I offend anyone over that but I just hate all the breakcore I've heard. And believe me me and Modex ..... we've heard a lot of it. And it's put both of us off it haah
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:42 [#01172110]
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Should I mail back "Hahaha dude it was just a heads up letting you know I'm not going to be associating with you! If you guys are so big it won't even fucking matter, right? Also bagging Adam Ninja probaly isn't as strategic a move as you may have thought."
I don't know if I can even be bothered replying :P It won't really go aynwhre exciting
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:44 [#01172111]
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I guess if you went down that path you would of known those guys pretty well.
I think its funny that person kinda BRAGGED about his connection with Mark N. I got Mark to distro some of my records to Soundbase in Germany and Underground music in the UK, but I'm not gonna let you know thru some come-back email! HA!
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:46 [#01172112]
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Mail back... "I'M ORANGE DUST MUTHA FUCKARRRRRRRRR!!!! AND ONCE THE 8 BIT KREW IS DONE WITH YA YOU'LL BE HEADING BACK TO THE HOUSE/TRANCE SCENE WHERE YOU BELONG!"
or something.
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:48 [#01172115]
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Yeah I kinda wanna retract that remark on aus breakcore and rephrase it: it may be good (it probably is), but I just can't enjoy it. at all.
Ehh yeah he totally bit my head off! Didn't even buy me a drink before he dumped me! boohoo ;-)
Interesting exchange anyway
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:49 [#01172116]
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wicked (hi-pitched voice)
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:53 [#01172119]
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Yeh like most music, you gotta look hard for some quality. and if its not your thing then you'll be lucky to find any. breakcore is pretty popular here yes. where there is good there is shit.
I'm kinda swinging towards drill and speed jungle stuff.
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:54 [#01172120]
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Oh no here comes mr mature to rain on my parade and tell me to grow up and stop being a bitch
j/k mate :)
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:55 [#01172121]
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This was aimed at RockenJohnny btw.
:D:D:D You ever talked to any of those distorted amen mashup east end heads before, John?
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:55 [#01172122]
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haha who me??
careful maan, CAREFUL!! I have powerful friends that can break(core) youuuuu!!!!!!!!!! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
;)
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:56 [#01172123]
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oops.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2004-05-04 00:58 [#01172125]
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i know whos come from here to go over there, yeah
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