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not crap - overrated. by the press, other electronica peeps, whatever my vote: plaid. and sometimes rdj *ducks* |
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autechre comes to mind :) |
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overrated electronica? Røyksopp. |
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overrated? |
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BOC |
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Venetian Snares, definitely. I also agree with plaid and aphex to some extent. |
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The Bro. Anyway. I would none are overrated. They're rated accordingly to their fan base. If you don't like them but everyone else does you would say they were overrated. Although some artists build up a certain degree of idol status and that means some people rate everything they do as brilliant. Those people are stupid. BAM! |
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I still haven't heard anything by vsnares... |
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Ae |
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Ringo Starr is a pretty overrated IDM-artist. |
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#1♣10♠5►5◙☺35453♦0ú}&# 9571;4510hgvfjshvdfshvdfjvsdfjsvjhÒ¶23 Sing that out loud and you can say that you have :D |
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hahahaha! ok. |
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the guys in the room next to my office got pissed off... |
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mu-ziq for sure, he's good, but he's like a good mp3.com artist,.. not like an idm superstar that he kinda has been built up to be, for some reason |
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webble weebble yarrrrr |
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"GGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaa-a-aaa-a-a-a--a- I pronounced it more like: a---a-a---a---a---a-! BIJOKKA BIJOKKA BIJOKKA KAKKAKAKKAKAKAKA-ka-KA!" and then I hit my desk with my hand, and said: "BAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" then the people in the next room hammered on the wall.. I think they were having a lecture... haha! |
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Hahaha that's great. |
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something weird happened.. "i pronounced it more like: " should be before "GAAA[...]" |
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this time I disagree with you, I think hes done lots of masterpieces (tango, in pine effect, lunatic, brace...) |
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he's been around for ages that counts for a lot in such a fast-changing area |
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I disagree, it's not that hard to keep a record deal. Much harder to get one in the first place. Pisses me off when I read reviews praising Plaid for sticking to their original sound whilst the likes of RDJ and Autechre have progressed. Like that's a good thing? |
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Plaid actually changed their sound quite a bit for 'Spokes', in my opinion to their detriment... I hardly ever skip a Plaid track in Winamp, and since that's including their entire catalogue as Plaid I think the consistency is astounding; They do split opinions on this board pretty much though so fair enough if you don't like them. U-Ziq I think is hardly overrated. He's a good artist and has some decent albums but they're never quite as good as the main players in the genre and his relatively quiet status reflects that. I have to say latter Autechre is insanely overrated, it's practically music by geeks for geeks whereas at least their earlier stuff was, y'know, enjoyable, not a fucking test of willpower. |
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Fair points. I s'pose there is something to be said for consistency. (Parts in the Post is dull jazz-wank IMO though) Yes, recent autechre stuff is a test of willpower at first. But once you've broken through the threshold, elucidated the inner logic of the track, it yields almost endless listens. Although most of my favourite is also very strong melodically (eg. Gelk on Peel Session 2, Garbage EP). I do find that I'll give an Ae track the benefit of the doubt in those early, willpower-testing listens, whereas I would probably give up on a less rated artist. But then I know it's worth the effort cos of past performance. So in conclusion, your will isn't strong enough! :P Nice avy by the way. |
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i completely agree with jarworski about awwteckerrr - they are supremely overrated - though i used to dig them quite a bit aside from me out growing their music and not caring for their new stuff reviews always kiss them square on the ass because they are autechre - if some newby made their last two albums no one would make a fuss |
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AE and Vsnares. Considering that their music is more of a fucking marathon than a listening enjoyment. |
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Fairly obvious I'm not going to agree on this with you from the off (I love Parts In The Post) - and while succicently put, your description of conquering Autechre's music only makes me go "PFFF!" even louder ;D I don't really think the music is more complex, it's just more abstract, and while it works for me for certain artists, it doesn't in regards to Autechre. And believe me - I have tried! |
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If some unknown made Confield and Draft they would be rightly trumpeted as miles ahead of their contemporaries by some parts of the press. However press opinion would be more representatively split between lovers and haters, as is opinion on this forum re recent autechre. As it is, all portions of the press idolise Autechre, because they're scared of not appearing "cutting edge" enough. Blame the press, not the artists. |
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the aphex twins |
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To each his own :> What's the last Ae album you enjoy? You gotta appreciate the crispness of production on LP5, every sound perfectly placed in the mix. I do agree that Ae are for geeks by the way! I hated Confield before I started producing my own stuff, totally impenetrable, but now I find the microsequencing absolutely dazzling. |
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chris clark |
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LP5 is my cut off point... great album. I dunno, what you said about an unknown artist releasing an Ae album without the stigma the press/public have may be true... but I have winamp on random, and whenever a track off Confield or Draft comes on that I don't recognise, I immediately wrinkle my nose just cause it smells bad. And then I look to see what it is and it's like, "Oh of course! No wonder I hated it!" |
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I have been searching for a while but I haven't been able to dig up any artist with rhythmical structures that are even comparable to the latest autechre shit. Their music is asphyxiatingly compelling. Hasn't this forum seen enough later autechre bashing? People; please move on damnit.... |
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You could say the same about all artists being bashed. That's part of the brilliance of music. |
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I'll just continue to do whatever the fuck I like thanks very little |
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Well that does seem a pretty fair assessment. You are officially free of anti-autechre bias :D Maybe it's the listening on random? Confield is much better as a whole listen than as individual tracks. And it *must* be on headphones. In fact get your headphones out, right now, and listen to Confield. Fuck what I said about holistic listening, skip right to track 3 (Pen Expers). It doesn't get great until a few minutes in IMO, as that organ rises out of the mix and starts filling in all the gaps, corroding the beat, decaying the flow. Beautiful. |
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I guess artist bashing is a healthy display of human socialisation. It's just that i've been only 3 months here and I am already tired of the autechre bashing. I think it has gone a bit too far. Maybe because I really admire the object of bashing. Anyway I will never make another mention of it again. |
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I wasn't having a go at you! |
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I have tried it in it's correct order... and I almost always use headphones ;) I can't listen now as I'm in work but I'll smoke a fat joint and try Pen Expers... although I remember it vaguely as I was told it was one of the more regular tracks and I still didn't like it |
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Haha yeah the fat joint is blatantly essential also. But I try to refrain from pushing my drug use on others (autechrepushing's ok though!). |
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Nobody told you what to do.... |
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except for me, of course, but I tell ALL OF YOU what to do. hello, "puppets." How are you today? |
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Drunken Mastah Thread Killah I'm miserable today |
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Squarepusher - Overrated Autechre - Underrated |
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you sure are.. but to cheer you up: there are 23 threads (24 if I include this one) that contain the word "squelch" that's neat-o, isn't it? IJEST! |
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let's revive the free style rapping thread |
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GREAT idea! |
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Autechre. Some really great tracks, particularly amongst their earlier work, but not very consistantly high quality. Draft 7.30 was nothing special IMO. |
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but alas.. I have to go home and make me some dinner now. the workday is over, and I'm hungry as seven packs of wolves. |
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i said the last two albums (confiled & dratt 7.0 or whatever) they dont do anything for me, after repeated listens, there is no enjoyment in those releases for me it's just boring computer dribble |
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Workday, good one. You've been posting all day like me you lazy norwegian. People like me are the scourge of british public services. I'm wasting taxpayers money even as I type this non work related message on a most definitely non work related message board. Haha! |
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