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http://www.joyofpropaganda.co.uk/ A great site, with some brilliant designs and thoughts. the random quote generator can be very funny indeed and very provocative. I dare you all! |
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i had to unfortunately take all the stickers off my iBook (yes, including the JOP one) i've gotta take it into Apple for servicing, and I don't want them to see MacPirate stickers all over my machine and say to themselves: "oh look at that - a MacPirate....let's take a look at this guys hard drive and see how much software he's obtained" *eek* |
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Oh hi osc, I've got a "Reality is a habit" and "A new world is an old face" on mine. |
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oh so you have put stickers on yours? heh cool :) if i get my Powerbook, i'm not gonna put any stickers or anything on it......i'm gonna leave it all nice and silvery also using Acetone isn't really advised on a laptop when trying to remove stickers - it's worked so far on my iBook (as in, there's no "frosting" on the plastic) but i wouldn't wanna push it too far i'm still in the process of removing some of the stickers actually, it's a pain in the arse |
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too lazy to copy and paste |
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DoctorMO is new here he doesn't know what the lazy link button does heh |
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I found the tshirts smug and likely to get the wearer a punch in the face. And having the strapline "T-shirts for intelligent people" made me to OD on crack. |
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*made me want to OD on crack. Sorry for any confusion there. |
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Joy Of Propaganda?? |
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Oh well better test things Glad the links worked the t-shirts wanted me to laugh most of the time. |
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I concur. |
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Good to see they admit (in the FAQ) that a lot of those quotes the "generator" spits out are stolen from other writers. One of my favourites, "Specialisation is for Insects" is there, the basic (fascistic) premise being that strong people should be able to do all manner of things- cook, program a computer, comfort the dying, kill efficiently, etc. as a means of freeing yourself from the reliance on other people (and subsequent weakness) that society breeds. It's something I've adapted into one of my own maxims, "Jack of all trades, master of some." (recognising that whilst you should have a basic grounding in all things, it is unrealistic to expect most people to be truly competent at more than several) |
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interestingly enough, it's a bases I have founded myself upon in some cases, I'd be more prepared to trust work by my own hand but obviously there's some things I can't do so I admit ignorance and buy. |
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although thinking about it, the less specialization in a society the less sophisticated. |
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The fact that you can't learn several "trades" to an extremely high level of skill in a lifetime is not a problem- as long as you can perform all the tasks neccessary for survival (travelling and navigating, hunting/gathering, food preperation, basic first aid, building of shelter, fighting) by yourself, everything else is a bonus. The real problem (true reliance) occurs when you lack any knowledge/ability at all in one or more of these areas and even worse, wouldn't know how to go about training yourself in them should you need to. My knowledge as a mechanic is very limited, I understand how simple engines work and can perform very basic car maintenance. If hypothetically there was an "end of the world" type situation, I could almost certainly increase this knowledge (through things like Haines manuals) to what would be neccessary for servicing a jeep/whatever. The danger with a society based on extreme specialisation is that it allows one section to exploit the others horribly. Imagine no one but doctors had any knowledge of first aid... they could charge whatever they liked even for "simple" procedures like sewing up cuts. |
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it is the danger in such a highly organized world. I can bake bread, just because I wanted to but I'd have no idea how to fix a car or a jeep. maybe if we know enough of the encyclopedia of the world we won't be duped but won't be relied upon for this knowledge to reach great depths. I know what a heart bypass is, but I couldn't do one. I know what quantum entanglement is but I couldn't pull it off. |
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A heart bypass is a "luxury" in terms of survival in the basest sense, as is quantum entanglement. Part of the benefit of education for educations sake is that it gives people the skills to teach themselves other things, so that if they needed to, they could learn how to, say, bake bread or make flour, etc. The danger of an over reliance on technology/society is that if through some great disaster we were thrown back to an atavistic state, we would not know how to begin to live without electricity, running water, gas, etc. |
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I believe when thrown back you would get two classes of survivors, those that know how to die and those that know how to survive. if you were thrown back to an age of basic needs would you worry there wasn't electricity? |
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I really wouldn't. I would sorely miss electronic music (by that I mean all recorded music and music that requires electricity to play it- not just electronica), but I'm confident I'd be able to survive without it. I've been involved in scouting for years, I can camp (and live off the land) without major discomfort. I'm sure that in some ways I'd enjoy the simplicity it would bring. |
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