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Van Helsing, why not just call it....
 

offline thecrimsonguard from ∞ (United States) on 2004-04-25 02:49 [#01159650]
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castlevania? its pretty much the same premise....


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-04-25 02:52 [#01159652]
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all I know about this film is what I've seen on a billboard


"van helsing"

accompanied by a gay looking guy with a crossbow


 

offline dan7250 from Osaka (Japan) on 2004-04-25 05:11 [#01159696]
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that would possibly be 'hugh jackman'.


 

offline Dozier from United States on 2004-04-25 13:30 [#01159956]
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this looks like a loser to me, but i'll watch it on dvd
probably.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-25 13:32 [#01159957]
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THIS FILM LOOKS SHIT!


 

offline grinningcat from london (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-25 13:36 [#01159964]
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the storyline looks shit the monsters look ok the woman in
it looks fiiiiiiiiiiiiiine


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-25 13:45 [#01159981]
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Walking home from the pub last night there was a poster. My
mate and I just started at her tits for a while!

TEQUILA!


 

offline stilaktive from a place on 2004-04-25 14:09 [#01160008]
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it makes me happy


 

offline D-Steak from Kansas City, Mo. (United States) on 2004-04-25 18:25 [#01160166]
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man, a castlevania movie should definately be made.

they made a shitty movie about the House of the Dead, so why
not?


 

offline DaWeeze from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2004-04-25 18:39 [#01160170]
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Don't damn the name of one of the greatest vampire-hunting
game series of all-time with that piece of over-CGIed
dreck...


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-04-26 02:13 [#01160350]
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you're all probably right about it, but I think the action
should do it some mild justice. Another thing I don't get is
all the shit-talking about CGI... what do people expect
developers to do... USE ANAMATRONICS? CGI is definately the
most versatile, advanced, BEST way to do special effects
movies have ever seen, a film like this one probably
wouldn't even be possible due to the budget constraints of a
non-CGI set. Dunno, may be missing the point but I don't
really see how a movie can be 'over-CGIed'...


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2004-04-26 02:41 [#01160390]
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computer graphics are killing home cinema


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-04-26 03:22 [#01160418]
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your avatar killed home cinema.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-04-26 03:24 [#01160422]
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dear chap, I jest.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-26 04:30 [#01160458]
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because CGI can be used very badly. mostly it is best to
only use CGI only when absolutely needed.

these films cram it full, replacing storyline with special
effects, making the film an empty husk.

one could argue that this is "over-CGI-ed".

also, CGI can look crap. as I said, if it's tastefully used,
it's hardly noticable. if it's all over the place, the whole
thing looks like a cartoon. change the building, change the
skies, change the ground, change the car, change the actors,
etc.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-26 04:33 [#01160462]
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CGI is used far too much. Where's the inventiveness of
cinema gone?

The best effects I've ever seen in a film were completely
CGI free. They've got locked into a groove of CGI it. Can't
be bothered to work out how to film it.

Finding Nemo makes sense to be in CGI. It's used properly
but when it's used just because they can then it's stupid.
I'm more impressed when they don't use CGI. Horror films
using it is pissing me off. They don't make any of the
action better!


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-26 04:34 [#01160463]
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You said what I said but better.

BAM!


 

offline Matvey from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2004-04-26 04:37 [#01160468]
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...Underworld 2?


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-26 07:37 [#01160652]
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Hahahahaha :D Good call mate!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-26 07:50 [#01160663]
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"Horror films
using it is pissing me off."

I agree. I think it's because even if you don't realise
something is CGI straight away, it makes it feel slightly
unreal and therefore less scary.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-26 08:55 [#01160765]
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I feel cheated when it's CGI. That's not clever use of
makeup and camera techniques.

Alien - Alien was fucking shit scary looking and I loved
it.
Alien : Resurrection - Aliens looked shit as CGI and weren't
scary.

If they re-did Alien with CGI I can guarentee it'd be shit.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-26 09:09 [#01160801]
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Have you seen Wrong Turn? Even though they use CGI for about
5 seconds in one scene (and it's hardly noticeable), most of
the film is live action and the make up/fx is awesome. Done
by the guy who did Jurassic Park.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-26 09:10 [#01160802]
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That's the second time someone has recommended that to me :D


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-26 09:13 [#01160812]
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We'll watch it when you come down mine, I've got it on DVD.
We'll have to sort that weekend out tonight. I've got m exam
timetable now, so we can pencil something in.


 

offline thecrimsonguard from ∞ (United States) on 2004-04-26 09:19 [#01160828]
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i hate over used CGI. its just a tool to use to enhance
'real effects'. There probably won't be a castelvania
movie...and god help you if there is and its like house of
the dead. I rented it on dvd, and it was shitty...


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-04-26 09:45 [#01160867]
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I agree, CGI just isn't my dish. Something about the way it
moves just doesn't convince me. Especially when fancy camera
angles are swinging and flying around, embellishing it.

You know what I DO find horrifying... stop motion animation.
There something unsettling about it, unnatural... not like
CGI, though... there's something eerie. Especially when it's
somewhat choppy.

On topic... I'm kind of looking forward to Van Helsing! The
game, too. Obviously it's going to be borderline retarded,
and that's what I'm counting on. The kind of thing I won't
mind tuning into on TBS when I'm really bored. I do like the
image of that pale gargoyle-chick-thing flying towards the
screen, and Hugh Jackman has exquisite cheekbones.

A Castlevania movie... that's risky business. It would be
nigh impossible to do right, but if they DID... oh shit.
Spurt. Especially if they loaded it full of inside jokes and
trivial things only geeks like me would notice.


 

offline Smyrma from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2004-04-26 09:48 [#01160872]
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I, too, and looking forward to seeing this movie at some
point. I love mindless action flicks.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-26 12:05 [#01161093]
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Sweet! Def doing that Cardiff hospital visit so I'll let you
know when taht is.


 


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