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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-04-24 10:52 [#01159002]
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there was this other topic called drugs for tonight (about a year ago) that was pretty sweet...
anyway, what's your choice for tonight?
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-04-24 10:56 [#01159004]
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alcohol, mainly (fruity) wine, for me.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-04-24 11:03 [#01159008]
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i wish i had some K
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-04-24 11:06 [#01159010]
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what are your experiences with K?
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-04-24 11:09 [#01159013]
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they're all very good
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-04-24 11:10 [#01159015]
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sometimes it feels a little bit like you need to make sure every step you make is perfect so you'll like hold on to things even though theres no real danger of falling down
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-04-24 11:12 [#01159020]
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okay. never taken K.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-04-24 11:14 [#01159024]
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i really like it but i think it's pretty bad for you
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-04-24 11:21 [#01159038]
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Stupid me smoked all my bud last night, so now i've got nothing for after work, bleh. Looks like another night down the pub.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-04-24 11:27 [#01159043]
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nothing tonight. don't got the cash.
though i haven't smoked any weed in weeks - i'm pretty sure it's made me more productive.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-24 14:10 [#01159183]
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I ordered some Salvia today out of curiousity. Seeing as its legal and all that. Heard some pretty crazy stuff about it tho...
Although I'm gonna have to bloody chew it as I have no bong/pipe and apparently you can't put it in joints. Wooo
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2004-04-24 14:13 [#01159186]
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party at a pub for me, so it'll be a few shimmy shammys for me. if not then it'll be a wank then bed for me. or a fuck with some slut for me for me . nite,,,,,,,
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-04-24 14:20 [#01159195]
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Salvia is pretty mental. Short-acting but pretty mental.
Me and my girlfriend smoke it sometimes... The first time she had it she felt like she was moving through the walls, like being pulled and i was seeing all these crazy shapes and faces in a painting i did. It was like a train tunnel with the music we were listening to making the painting move in time. The next night i had it on my own and it was kinda scary in places though. I was listening to gyroscope by BoC and the child counting FREAKED THE SHIT out of me.
The room that i'm in when i'm smoking feels like it's kinda "cut up" into sections moving towards each other a lot of the time, it's pretty disconcerting but not unpleasant.
Seriously though, get a pipe and just hold the smoke for as long as you can. The smoke itself tastes pretty foul, i can't even imagine chewing it.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-24 14:22 [#01159199]
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LOL. I'm looking forward to that. Gyroscope freaks me out enough sober so I can imagine how fucked it must have seemed.
I'll look into a pipe... not so easy 2 do in parents' house tho :( ah well I will disguise it as a flute!
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mrgypsum
on 2004-04-24 14:32 [#01159210]
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if by saying drugs you mean Caffeine, and if by saying tonight you mean just going home and going to bed after work, then yeah, I am all stocked up on drugs for tonight :~)
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2004-04-24 14:37 [#01159218]
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chewing it will do fuckall. there's a lot of buzz about in on the internet, so many distributers are exploiting mass ignorance and selling impotent stuff. basically, your body metabolizes it EXTREMELY rapidly --- so the way to do it is to use a small pinch of either the 5x, 10x (or best yet, 15x) extract, to inhale it all DEEPLY, and to hold it for as long as you can. mind you, it is a total mindfuck. nothing like 5-meo-dmt or anything, but still unlike any other hallucinogen i've tried, and i've taken quite a few. i don't find it pleasureable at all, but a lot of people do.. anyways, it only lasts 15 minutes -- but they're quire a ride sometime
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2004-04-24 14:45 [#01159223]
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speaking of which, has anyone here tried 5-MeO-DMT?
i'll tell my story. it doesn't present me under a very good light, but i might as well own up to my stupidity. this happened around october, and i was on a self-destructive binge. i acquired this mysteriously legal chemical (mysteriously because it is infinitely more powerful than say, mushrooms). i got about 50mg. 5 is considered a decent dose, and you're not supposed to go over 10.
me and my friend both took 10. the experience is absolutely indescriably powerful, akin to having your mind shot out of a cannon. too powerful to make sense, or to provide any substantial entheogenic enlightenment. my friend's trip lasted about 10-15 mins. he was absolutely speechless and immobile throughout and after -- it took him about 20-25 minutes to settle down, at which point he could only say things like "wow" and "holy crap". i, apparently, was writhing in my seat and touching myself and hissing. hm.
anyways, i took another 15mg dose, for some mysterious reason. similar experience, slightly longer. okay. what am i doing to myself?
anyways, i'm rather unhappy with my life at the point, and am constantly looking for escapes. for some impossibly retarded reason i decide that taking the remaining 25mg will be safe, and that i'll just quickly go to bed after taking it and just experience a trip before sleeping. i snort it, get up, walk to my bed. lay down. voooooooooooom, something bad is going to happen, i can tell. i get up, feeling slightly queasy, and go to the bathroom (this is about 40 seconds after insulflation). i look at myself in the mirror and my face is pretty flashed. this is the last coherent thought i had for the next little while. i entered a trip more powerful than anything i have ever experienced -- something that makes double-digit lsd doses pale by comparison. i had no sense of self, no idea who i was, could not attribute various sensations to this or that sense (i.e. i am hearingseeing that) -- i can't really des
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2004-04-24 14:48 [#01159227]
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describe it at all. i came to about 15 minutes later (could've been weeks as far as i was concernced). i had fallen into the bathtub, was covered in my own vomit and blood was running down my nose. my roommate was standing over me looking rather concerned. all i could manage to say for about an hour or two after is "i'm okay, i'm okay, i'm okay...". i experience flashbacks whenever i smoke too much pot and generally had to keep off drugs since.
this was me at my lowest point -- rather shameful to admit now, but might as well have this serve as a warning to those psychonauts who think they can handle everything or people who think things are safe because they're legal.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-24 14:58 [#01159239]
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Yeah. There seems to be a stupid inconsistancy in drug laws. Pot is illegal, yet you're free to tank yourself with that DMT stuff... it kind of undermines the whole system.
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-04-24 14:59 [#01159243]
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I've read about DMT, and i don't think i'm ever going to be in the right frame of mind to try it. I doubt anyone i know would be able to get hold of it anyway.
Large hits of 15x salvia KIND of give me some of those effects... not knowing what sense is what, no idea where the hell i am... i'm staying away from hallucinogens for the moment because i keep having panic attacks, and i REALLY don't want to mix that with hallucinations.
Have you ever tried philosopher's stones? I had a pretty terrifying experience with way too much (i actually just guessed dosage based on mushrooms, which is mindbogglingly stupid now that i come to think about it), feeling like i'd been swallowed by something satanic, died and had my soul ripped to shreds... i get flashbacks when i smoke a lot of weed too. Nasty stuff.
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2004-04-24 15:02 [#01159244]
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yeah, i can (unfortunately) understand all too well the panic phenomenon.. i've never tried philosopher's stones; never even heard of them. what are they?
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-04-24 15:05 [#01159246]
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Hallucinogenic fungi, related to truffles i believe. They're legal in the UK, you can sometimes buy them at headshops along with freshly grown shrooms (thank you legal loopholes). Seriously fucking strong though, not for me again.
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2004-04-24 15:10 [#01159251]
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yeah, i think i'll sit out on that experience
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-04-24 15:11 [#01159252]
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drinking and chain smoking for me this fine weekend
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-04-24 15:12 [#01159254]
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caffeine is the only drug I use... everything else is stupid!
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sneakattack
on 2004-04-24 15:24 [#01159267]
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My drug is programming. I'd rather build my brain than melt it.
[someone has to be on the other side of the fence]
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aron
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2004-04-24 15:27 [#01159269]
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tonight, ganja and booze as usual.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-04-24 15:27 [#01159270]
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exactly!
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-04-24 15:29 [#01159273]
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dang now i kind of want to try DMT
just a little though
is it commerically available like salvia or foxy?
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-04-24 15:31 [#01159277]
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I might just drink some paint that my dad has left over, and then have a little paint remover afterwards... sounds like a plan!
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sneakattack
on 2004-04-24 15:52 [#01159286]
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supposedly if you get enough it seeps into your eyeballs, and hence functions as a cheap psychadelic!
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wimp
on 2004-04-24 16:05 [#01159292]
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Beer and Super Mario Kart.
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-04-24 16:09 [#01159294]
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6 pack of beers and a few choice buds. Friend's havin' a BBQ party
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-04-24 17:11 [#01159314]
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just rolled a joint, waiting for it to dry
first smoke in 5 days
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sneakattack
on 2004-04-24 17:18 [#01159317]
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"start saying things worth listening to"
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2004-04-24 18:16 [#01159359]
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I once tried a silver microdot (something we rarely see round these parts, but looked like a piece of lighter flint) and had an experience with quite a few of those indescribably fucked up features - Like absolutely no sense of self, everything was in black & white, moments of complete heavenly tranquillity, followed by cut-up memories of complete confusion.
The wierdest thing with microdots, unlike any other trip I've had before, was the way time was fast forwarding and rewinding and pausing, just like an 80's VCR or something.
I remember that seriously confused me - Then I remember experiencing the flow of time like some kind of 1-dimensional fountain or something.
This was at a big free party out in a field - The whole night was a real cut-up blur - Then was thinking in another language for the majority of the next day - Even remember a lot of words I was thinking in - All had immense significance to early childhood and all sorts of brain bending concepts and realisations about reality and how generally fucked up everything was... Quite a few of them I later recognised as Sinclair Spectrum commands.
That was like nothing else - And since then I've not really enjoyed tripping so much - Find some of the realisations/thoughts a little hard to deal with these days.
But yeah, as for the panic phenomenon - I once got into that cycle after taking just a few psilocybin mushrooms, I didn't even think they'd affect me - I was smoking a little weed at the time, then couldn't decide if I wanted to go into town or not... Absolutely sent my head into a spin - Went home and hid in my room for what felt like weeks (although was prolly about 3/4 hours) - Absolute nightmare experience - Just waiting for time to stand still again - Y'know when you're too in touch with the here and now, and are generally thinking way too fast for your sanity to deal with?
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2004-04-24 19:34 [#01159499]
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Y'know when you're too in touch with the here and now, and are generally
thinking way too fast for your sanity to deal with?
i'm practically like that all the time; mushrooms certainl exacerbate it.. sometimes it is so frightening, to just be unable to not think every tiny thing through..
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-04-24 19:37 [#01159503]
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pushups/situps
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2004-04-24 19:37 [#01159504]
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HUT HUT HUT
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-04-24 19:39 [#01159507]
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Your dream of washboard stomachs will surely be fulfilled soon. Flat abdomens are beautiful, no doubt, but they are also extremely beneficial. Most of the backaches can be traced to the imbalance between the abdominal muscles and the muscle tone of the back. Maintain a correct posture, practice a few exercises and you can be the proud owner of a flat and taut stomach.
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2004-04-24 20:39 [#01159532]
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Yeah, I was like that for a long time myself in general - I'd have to keep myself pretty occupied going out, getting weed, eating fast food, pretty much every waking moment for a long time!
I went really straight edge for a while after a particularly bad week long drinking binge and seem to have attained some kind of zen-like tranquility now.
I think about my breathing a lot - Try to keep it as shallow and slow as possible most of the time (breathing properly cures asthma, anxiety, restlessness, immune response, the list is endless) - And I can go a whole day without ever really noticing a single thought, yet still being pretty productive.
It has its ups and its downs - I find it much harder to deal with the everyday chaos of the towns and cities these days, whereas I used to find it a nice distraction from the chaos of my own thoughts...
Oh yeah, getting away from marijuana for a long time seemed to get me dreaming properly again, and has seemed to stop me being so aware of my thoughts...
But I miss it, and will try to get back into it in moderation I think in the future.
I tried this wierd herbal thing today for the first time, called Skullcap - It's completely legal in the UK - And quite easily available.
It's just smoked pure in a rizla or pipe - And the effects were actually quite unexpected! Very much like bush weed, but with a slightly unusual edge.
Would I recommend it? I'm not sure yet - I think I could get into it.
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morge
from United Kingdom on 2004-04-25 09:06 [#01159794]
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what was someone going on about there, not being able to smoke salvia in joints?
is this true
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-04-25 09:08 [#01159797]
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i haven't had a smoke in two weeks...i'll probably have one or two later today!
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corrupted-girl
on 2004-04-25 09:50 [#01159836]
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green tea!
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Eddy Wally
from leuven (Belgium) on 2004-04-25 11:00 [#01159872]
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hey can you guys recommend me some dope im ordering on azarius?
im already ordering
ephedra
peyote
calea dream herb
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-25 12:06 [#01159915]
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"what was someone going on about there, not being able to smoke salvia in joints?
is this true"
Well apparently you can but you wont get the hallucinogenic effects, just a sort of mild-stoned feeling. Something to do with the heat it needs to work.
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2004-04-25 16:28 [#01160105]
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tonight?
alch. coke... hoefully some weed to deter the sketchy after-effect of C.
all in all, kareoke will be fun. :p
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-25 16:35 [#01160114]
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ephedra: my alternative to speed or E as i dont have access to either, nor do i want to try them. (well E, maybe sometime). soon to be, or already banned in the netherlands for whatever odd reason.
pro's: lots of energy, goosebumps and pleasant shivers.
cons: fucked up heartbeat, which can be a bit weird at times.
peyote: contains mescaline, and i'm not up for that stuff yet. they say the cactus taste is revolting.
calea: not too sure about this. i bought some dream herb once but it was a mix of different herbs. i smoked a pure joint by myself and got zero effect.
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2004-04-25 16:59 [#01160142]
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forgot to post in this yesterday, but bud and a bottle of bacardi - got sloshed last night - fighting with my friends and stuff, was terribly fun.
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S M Pennyworth
from East Timor on 2004-04-25 19:13 [#01160184]
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i was in a fight with my mate (@ mikro12) recently in the pub..
funniest shit ever. i had a bruised shoulder for weeks after.
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