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VLetr
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-22 07:39 [#01155543]
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I'm mike, and I have a problem.
I need to have, on cd, every track autechre/gescom have ever made.
Can someone please advise me how I can go about getting all those autechre remixs without resorting to an expensive bulk purchase of singles with an autechre mix on their b-side, by god knows how many artists that i don't give a shit about?
I'm afraid mp3 just won't do. You can hear the compression in the high end. What can I say, I'm a purist.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-22 07:40 [#01155544]
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Please refer to earthleakage with all your Autechre problems, he should be able to help
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-22 07:40 [#01155545]
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give all your money to me and I'll cure you of this nasty habbit.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-04-22 07:41 [#01155547]
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sean&rob@haveanautechre.com
emale them and go from there.
good luck.
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-04-22 07:41 [#01155548]
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How do you expect to have all tracks if you don't want to buy the releases, or dl mp3?
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-22 07:42 [#01155549]
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A near impossible task. It was plain sailing until I saw "mp3 just won't do". Even if you were willing to buy every release with an ae remix on, you wouldn't be able to because they are so rare, and a lot of them are vinyl only.
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sneakattack
on 2004-04-22 07:44 [#01155552]
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I urge people dissatisfied with mp3 to seriously consider ogg. That's all I use.. of course it sucks if you have a device which doesn't understand them, but whatever.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-22 07:45 [#01155554]
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Oggs frequency-range is even smaller than mp3. why the fuck would you want to downgrade?!
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VLetr
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-22 07:53 [#01155564]
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I realise my snooty rejection of mp3 does make it a tad tricky (c'mon, you know you can hear the compression! and don't give me any smartypants "incomplete without surface noise" crap... it's not surface noise like vinyl, it's distortion). And the chance of them suddenly releasing a '26 mixes for cash' type thing is pretty slim. Vanishingly so.
I reckon my best bet is to watch out for autechre completists on ebay selling off all their stuff to fuel their all-consuming drug habits. Or perhaps pay such completists to post me a CDR. Would be a little miffed if they just posted me a CD of ripped mp3s though.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-22 07:56 [#01155573]
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mp3's arent that bad, man. I'm no "Dr. Audio" but I find as long as it's 192kbit or more I am happy. Anything below that is pretty bad, though.
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sneakattack
on 2004-04-22 07:56 [#01155574]
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It's probably more intelligent. besides, frequency range isn't the big deal. Pop open a spectrum analyzer and compare source wav with ogg and mp3--it's clear from that who does how.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-22 07:59 [#01155579]
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mp3s and oggs are dead to me. they sound like a robot that has hammers instead of ears, and it uses these hammers to make music by calculating the exact intervals to use for each beat.
but I'm going home now. OFFICELIFE SUCKS (good compared to other jobs, though).
IJEST!
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VLetr
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-22 07:59 [#01155582]
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Return-Path: Delivered-To: m.r.eyre.00@cantab.net Received: (qmail 6506 invoked by uid 417); 22 Apr 2004 12:19:31 -0000
Received: from sean&rob (helo=localhost) by draco.cus.cam.ac.uk with local-smtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BGcah-0002cK-1Z for m.r.eyre.00@cantab.net; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 12:42:03 +0100
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 14:52:03 +0100 (BST) From: To: m.r.eyre.00@cantab.net Subject: Re: GIVE ME YOUR REMIXES PLEASE.
>Dear Autechre, > >See subject line. No mp3s. > >Cheers, >Mike
Fuckoffmx100.
xx Sean & Rob
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sneakattack
on 2004-04-22 08:01 [#01155586]
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Human eyes are much more developed than ears. I personally find oggs to be good enough, and to be clearly superior to mp3s. But I'm not stupid enough to trust only my ears, so I did experiments like the one I said, generating visuals, and you can't argue with that.
(I thought it was firmly established that ogg (a) is close enough to CD and (b) annihilates mp3)
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-04-22 08:01 [#01155587]
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laugh out loud
next plan: steal their computer
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VLetr
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-22 08:15 [#01155610]
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Haha
Rip all the data, then post it back to them, bit by bit...
"What's that just come through the postbox, Sean?" "Dunno maetl, let's have a looksie. Hmm... looks like....." "Well? What is it?" "It's... it's... oh god no... it's out beloved Ensoniq ASR10, Rob! But it's been mangled and bent and cut into little pieces... no, don't look Rob, you'll have another funny turn... remember lentic catachresis..."
Etcetera.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-22 08:17 [#01155612]
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Sean: Hi Rob, do you like my new cap ? Rob: What kind of cap do you call that? Sean, Why, a cap.iv of course!!!!!! Rob: ahahhahahahhhah!!! Let's go to the swimming pool?????
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VLetr
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-22 08:20 [#01155617]
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An experimental swimming pool, with nonlinear volumetric geometry and a springboard that goes "ffssszzzzDONK" instead of "boing".
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Toejam
from Perth (Australia) on 2004-04-22 08:28 [#01155627]
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best.....thread....ever!
:)
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sneakattack
on 2004-04-22 08:30 [#01155629]
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tell me what 'volumetric' is doing in your sentence, other than pissing me off
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VLetr
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-22 08:33 [#01155636]
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It's a swimming pool, and therefore has volume. 2D swimming pools are too progressive even for autechre, and probably not much fun either.
But mostly it's just there to piss you off. :)
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sneakattack
on 2004-04-22 08:35 [#01155639]
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(I meant that volumetric was redundant.. and nothing in autechre is redundant)
My jokes suck
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VLetr
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-22 08:39 [#01155643]
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That may be, but your avatar rules. Me, I gots the jokes AND the avatar. Truly I "have it all".
I'd say lowride (incunabula) is pretty redundant. Worst autechre song ever.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-04-22 08:44 [#01155649]
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...get a room you two.
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-04-22 08:46 [#01155650]
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Ibrowse Ebay every day, and I have never seen people selling a complete Ae-collection. If you start with releases with Ae-remixes, you will have to collect 60-70 releases. And then you can start with tracks on compilations before you move over to Gescom-releases, Gescom, remixes, and Gescom appearances. What are we talking about then? Complete Ae/Gescom? 200 releases?
Complete your Ae-collection, start collecting Gescom-releases, and be happy with various remixes/tracks as mp3. Just like I do. That's just a friendly advice.
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VLetr
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-22 08:48 [#01155652]
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Yeah, a volumetric room with... I'll shut up. ffssszzzzDONK.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-04-22 08:50 [#01155656]
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songs by autechre and songs by gescom
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VLetr
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-22 08:51 [#01155657]
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I know you're right, mortsto-x. But it's not the same! Boo hoo.
re: Gescom releases... i've just ordered the Iss:sa EP. Internet consensus seems to be that Key Nell is well worth getting, but I can't find it anywhere - Warpmart, Skam, Amazon, etc.
Boo hoo.
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Toejam
from Perth (Australia) on 2004-04-22 08:53 [#01155658]
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hehe....that's someone's favourite ae song here!
can't remember who it was...maybe revpersona or refund or ambsace or someone
:)
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sneakattack
on 2004-04-22 08:54 [#01155661]
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i'm glad you said so--lowride really is a piece of shit.
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sneakattack
on 2004-04-22 08:56 [#01155664]
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let me just counteract my sacrilege by mentioning tracks I think don't get enough mention (maybe 'cause of the anti-early autechre bias?): 444, further, and teartear..
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Toejam
from Perth (Australia) on 2004-04-22 08:56 [#01155665]
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Yeah, it was revpersona
thought so :)
goes to show how people's taste differs so widely...
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-04-22 08:56 [#01155666]
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Keynell on Ebay
Norwegian shop with Keynell
I know there are some other shops as well
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Toejam
from Perth (Australia) on 2004-04-22 08:57 [#01155668]
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my god i love further! and nine, too
that whole album is fucking class ;)
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Toejam
from Perth (Australia) on 2004-04-22 08:57 [#01155669]
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and totally underrated btw
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-04-22 08:57 [#01155670]
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Yep, but that's on albums and ep's only...
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VLetr
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-22 09:09 [#01155694]
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Cheers morts.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-04-22 09:10 [#01155695]
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i tried didnt i
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japes
from Suriname on 2004-04-22 09:20 [#01155715]
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I'd say lowride (incunabula) is pretty redundant. Worst Autechre song ever.
Clearly you've never heard CapIV. Technically wicked (though MAX/MSP does it all for them) but totally soulless shit.
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Toejam
from Perth (Australia) on 2004-04-22 09:24 [#01155720]
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haven't heard draft yet...
soulless, eh? contradicts most opinions of people saying its more melodic than 'confield'....
but interesting anyway! :)
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sneakattack
on 2004-04-22 09:27 [#01155724]
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cap is gantz, not draft..
you should check draft sometime, it's pure fucking glory
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japes
from Suriname on 2004-04-22 09:28 [#01155727]
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it's from the Gantz Graf thing. The video to that is also very nice to look at but not especially affecting.
I'm not hugely into Autechre. I loved Chiastic Slide, though I only ever listen to it about once a year cos it doesn't have enough humanness about it. Like listening to machines wanking or something.
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Toejam
from Perth (Australia) on 2004-04-22 09:29 [#01155728]
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oh, whoops
sorry!
but yeah i will check draft soon, it's inevitable
*faints* too much to buy! :)
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VLetr
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-22 09:32 [#01155732]
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Some of ae's melodies are very warm and human. Try:
Draun Quarter on the Envane EP Clipper on Tri Repetae Most of Amber Anvil Vapre EP Garbage EP Surripere on Draft 7.30
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japes
from Suriname on 2004-04-22 09:35 [#01155735]
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Incunabula is wicked to sleep to actually. Tri Repetae I wasn't much into except for the nice ambient Overand thing at the end.
But the melodies on some of EP7 and Chiastic are the best. That was my favourite period of theirs cos they'd evolved enough to sound better than a bog standard techno outfit but not so much that they begin to disappear up their own arseholes.
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belagio
from lakeside on 2004-04-27 07:05 [#01162384]
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Am I the only one who likes both lowride and cap iv? Great beginning and great ending.
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