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http://www.theembassyvfx.com/qt/tetra.mov |
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thats pretty cool, they look kinda scary though... i doubt anyone would want to mess with them. Strange that things like this will be a big possibility in the future... probably not in my lifetime but still |
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Not in your lifetime? Think about it: a) Computer technology doubles every 6 months (estimated) - think of the computer technology we have now b)Honda ( i think, or some japanese company) already has "robots" that can dance and do all other crazy shit already I wouldn't be too suprised seeing these things in my lifetime |
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That was a cool vid. |
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a dancing robot is something completely different from something like this. this would have to be functional for hours on end, should be able to stand the conditions of the place where it is, should ABSOLUTELY NOT malfunction - seeing as it would be carrying a rifle (!!) etc. I think this will still take some time. |
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haha yeah, I guess if you factor in all those variables... damn impluse posting! i should stop |
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Qrter makes a good point.If you think about it,the original Robocop movie had enough savy to warn what could happen if a machine given those responsibilties did get out of control.And I definately think that technology is constantly being developed that is not reported to the general public which will suddenly "appear" on the market when people in power think the time is right.Conspiracy theory's or not,I still think it's kind of scary and developers should proceed with caution. |
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Robocop, the matrix, etc etc, AI is a scary scary thing. |
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I wonder if you could run it over with a speeding car and then have yourself a free rifle. |
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You could do that with a human cop too |
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true, but the moral consequences figure differently. it is, after all, only a machine. |
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I don't think someone with intentions of running over the robotcop to get its gun is really bothered by that anyway. ;) |
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I think you could be underestimating that factor.. |
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dude.. you would get tried for killing a cop weather it's robotic or human.... totally shafted!! |
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Awesome!! I liked the Appleseed anime type look of them =) |
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I bet it doesnt have a sence of humour! |
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Computer technology actually doubles approximately every 18 months. It hits the odd hiccup (like the heat problem of 2001/2002). Graphics cards advance faster than this, but GPUs haven't been long enough for an accurate prediction/measurement of this rate of increase to be measured. It is true that "proper" robots may be possible (or even common) in our lifetime. One of the biggest hurdles was making them walk properly due to the massive amounts of fast processing power needed to maintain balance for a biped. Now we have that, things ought to get interesting. |
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and, all this doubling eventually ends of course |
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One of three things is likely to happen: It will reach a point where the heat is too much (with current chip design, this is in the forseeable future). We will branch out into other forms of chip design (quantum, biological etc.). These will have far higher "maxing out" thresholds. Processors will become so fast that for all common applications, they are plenty fast enough and developing (and using) faster chips will be the sole preserve of military/govt/pure science apps. An example would be when we can render highly complex photo-realistic (and by that I mean we cannot tell the difference, at all) scenes in real time on large screens, complete with highly complex AI for all characters in the scene. |
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you forgot about 4: the world ends tomorrow |
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If that happens, we'll have more important things to worry about than "can we make the graphics/physics better in GTA 6". :) |
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IRL?!?! |
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Yeah, they'd probably want to treat it (legally) as a police officer, just like police horses/dogs... |
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I got that stat from a book called Visions by michio kaku there is a point in time where we can only get fast enough before we reach "instant". Beyond instant is forseeing into the future, how close we are to instant is beyond me |
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god damn that movie was sweet... I enjoyed it more than Matrix Part 2&3 combined. that thi but was the robot (which, by the way, looks cool as hell. it was definately appleseed style as someone else mentioned) CGI or was that actually it performing all those tasks? If it can do all the things they IMPLIED it could do (such as distinguish between friendly and enemy targets, and make decisions in the heat of battle), not to mention RUN AND JUMP, I don't see why we wouldnt see those things on the streets next year. |
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I'm not familiar with it, but it's probably a book by a futurist as opposed to a real world technologist? It's definately 18 months, it's a well known pattern called "Moore's Law". Looking back at a graph over the last 10 years, it's shocking how accurate it has proven to be. Most predictions like that are wildly innacurrate or, even if they are true to begin with, get more and more off over time. Good video by the way and as someone else said, I really like the appleseed style "ears" it has :) |
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that's definitely been composited in, if you pause it you can see where they've basically pasted it into the frame as a layer also the HUD from the point of view of the machine has MS-DOS directory listings on there i doubt something as sophisticated as a policing robot would be running DOS! i'm actually getting scared that people are considering using machines for purposes like this. watch The Animatrix (The Second Renaissance) and see why I'm scared |
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yeah i saw that,(great anime series by the way) just watch any robot attacking human movie! heh |
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Don't worry mate, as the movie implied they will be testing it in poor countrys first =) |
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Asche XL yeah, i fucking love that series! i only saw Second Renaissance Parts I & II on TV, and I went out and bought the DVD the next day - after only having seen those two episodes I have been continually blown away by the artistic techniques used in those pieces Sido Dyas lol! |
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hahahhah... I didn't even pick up on the DOS stuff.. thats great.. but good sleuthing my friend. My question is... why make a movie like this when none of it is even possible with current technology... its like the creators are saying "wouldnt this be FUCKING ILL DOOD? Yeah... well... we've made 0% progress... but we've decided it would cool to have!!" all it managed to do was get my hopes up. Granted the idea of that much power given to a robot is scary, but the idea of sci-fi coming to life like is so fucking cool. =| |
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to life like that* |
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"that's definitely been composited in" well.. duh!! :D |
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He he, I noticed the DOS too :) If you think about it, robots wouldn't have computer screen type images overlaid over their image feed like a sort of helmet HUD (like you get in the first person bits of the terminator films)... converting the data to visuals, then back from the visuals into real figures would waste a lot of processing time- the robot would just get the figures direct from its sensors regarding ambient temperature, speed, whether this was their target, threat detection etc. Unlike humans, computers do not primarily work on visual stimuli and consequently their "thought" as such is not in visual terms. |
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damn good point. |
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well, as you pointed out in your own post they're basically saying, "look, in the next few years it will be possible to do this kind of thing" look at the leaps and bounds we're taking in computing - not just hardware the 96Kb game that has been posted on here, that's a pretty damn good breakthrough (ok, it's bugger all to do with robotics, but it's something!) look at how far operating systems have come in the past 5 years look at how fast processors are now.....lookat how far company's like Sony and Honda and shit like that have come with robotics. there's probably a thousand secret projects going on without our knowledge that involves AI, robotics and shit. Lockheed, the manufacturer of the F-117A stealth bomber are supposedly in the process of making a system similar to SkyNet (the computer system responsible for The Terminator).....this is all getting too scary. I tell you, in a few years from now, we'll all be facing a scenario not too dissimilar from The Matrix, or The Terminator |
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Cool! Can't wait to dodge a bullit or freeze a kung fu kick in the air! =) |
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I do not trust that thing at all. But I don't doubt that they could do something like that relatively soon. Maybe they should only arm it with non-lethal bullets or a stink bomb until they can work all the potential kinks out of it, though. |
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arm it with a stink bomb?? that's the most preposterous idea i've ever heard! egads! |
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maybe you could use that as one of your quote AV's?? ;) |
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They'd field test it somewhere where the bystanders were "expendable", like Johhanasburg as the video suggests... Even if the couldn't make it good (ie Perfect) at distinguishing between people and it was just a great "killing machine", there'd still be applications for it, like air dropping a squadron of them into enemy territory. |
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