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big
from lsg on 2004-04-13 20:36 [#01141526]
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b sure to get it here
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big
from lsg on 2004-04-13 21:11 [#01141548]
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erm, it's pretty good..
dont download aeph just yet, it's some wrong version im re-uploading now, but im sure you wont
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big
from lsg on 2004-04-14 03:17 [#01141730]
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that's great dude just fruitloops (flstudio 4.5.1.) the nice sounding synth is just a sample from flstudio: i didnt do anything with it. the flute i did screw around with though, as well as the guitar.
why 2.46 to the end? ill post youre reply in my thread on xlt to keep that bumped (being a internet artist is tough man)
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-04-14 03:20 [#01141731]
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not bad! i think you're improving and going in the right direction. cool track
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-14 03:25 [#01141736]
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oh great.
wirefm.
no can see!!
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big
from lsg on 2004-04-14 03:25 [#01141738]
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ah, thanks r40f, you're opinion is highly valued
[#01141730] was a reply to a mail i got from smogk, i dont think he minds i use him for bumping:
i liked s.a.w, 2:46 to the end is great, loved the harmony,what kind of program(s) do you use?
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big
from lsg on 2004-04-14 03:48 [#01141765]
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direct download: Aeph s.a.w. Nine Inch Reich
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-14 04:03 [#01141772]
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there's an awful lot of fl in your tracks, big. i like the bass synth you used in nine inch reich, but other than that, it's not my cuppa tea.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-04-14 04:17 [#01141777]
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i use floops too
be sure to fuck over the default sounds or itll sound a bit boring
will download when i get back from lunch
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big
from lsg on 2004-04-14 04:22 [#01141780]
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yes, it's all fl actually (you mean fruityloops?) in two weeks ill have dsl and download reason. now i can just use fruityloops.
maybe it's the outlook but i thought i could make somewhat more vintage sounding tracks with fruity, so that's what i did
i wasnt sure that bassline fitted well enough in the track actually :)
tnx for listening and commenting
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-14 04:26 [#01141782]
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what i meant was, you use many of fl's samples (i do too, btw). like jaroen said, it's fun to tweak them. otherwise, download and/or make your own samples for a fresher sound :) btw, it sounds oldskool, alright
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big
from lsg on 2004-04-14 04:31 [#01141785]
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well i cut all my mixing (mostly cranking up the volumes) again because it ended up pretty crappy in mp3. actually in aeph and nine inch reich i didnt bother at all anymore, because i thought it sounded fine as it were
do have a good lunch, sir
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big
from lsg on 2004-04-14 04:33 [#01141789]
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yes i thought that's what you meant tweak is just turning up the volume? then it sounds more modern or something?
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-14 04:39 [#01141793]
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eh? no, tweaking as in letting loose all kinds of effects on a sample or changing the settings etc. just messing about with fl will get you somewhere interesting, eventually
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big
from lsg on 2004-04-14 08:32 [#01142132]
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ah i only used fl samples i thought sounding nice why dont you like them? old? fl?
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big
from lsg on 2004-04-14 12:16 [#01142409]
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how was your lunch?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-14 12:40 [#01142466]
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to be brutally honest: the sounds are horrible.
they sound like presets, and seeing what other people say (I don't use floops, so I wouldn't know) they are!
they sound flat and don't work together well. overall it makes the track sound like a copy of what a typical oldschool-IDM track should sound like.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-14 12:52 [#01142507]
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mm. I worded that too harsh, btw. :)
but it is what I think.
I think you should spend more time on tweaking samples, creating new sounds. structure'll come later.
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big
from lsg on 2004-04-14 13:23 [#01142590]
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well im just starting out and think ill eventually grow sick of the sounds and will want to make my own sounds, but for the time being..
a copy of what a typical oldschool-IDM track should sound like ill take that as a complement :)
i dont know what i should do now exactly now though: use better samples of the same intruments and stuff (because i like them), mix them better?
you're sure you listened to nine inch reich?, i think that sounds pretty good still..
thanks for your listening and commenting qrter, you werent harsh, you're the best
btw: you werent sitting in bus 12s from de uithof at 18:30 tonight with some girl, were you?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-14 13:37 [#01142626]
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that's the one I listened to, yessir.
if you really want to use those "instruments and stuff", I'd say - yes, use better samples AND mix them better. :)
I wasn't sitting in bus 12s today, no. I hardly ever take that bus.
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big
from lsg on 2004-04-14 13:45 [#01142660]
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didnt the mallet that comes in at 2:13 sound like reich
the track is more meant as something like nine inch nails and orbital, not idm
i still like it, it's my baby
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big
from lsg on 2004-04-14 14:46 [#01142768]
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isnt there anyone besides r40f that likes it? i cant sleep now
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big
from lsg on 2004-04-14 18:40 [#01143227]
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last bump
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big
from lsg on 2004-04-14 19:26 [#01143298]
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well apparantly you sofisticated bunch dont really like it (some dude on watmm didnt like it either)
thats too bad i just wonder if it's bad to make an old sounding track. like maybe it sounded well produced ten years ago
isnt the track good aside from the sounds, you know melodicly, build up, and stuff?
i only want positive comments from now on like i have a good haircut or something
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-04-14 22:54 [#01143423]
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my advice is, don't worry about what anyone else thinks. just make music the way you think it sounds good, experiment A LOT and just keep doing it. one can only improve at it.
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big
from lsg on 2004-04-15 04:57 [#01143608]
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o.k.
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-15 06:04 [#01143648]
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hey and btw, if you just started out doing tracks, it really isn't a bad start :) keep at it!
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-04-15 06:10 [#01143655]
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Dear Big, I listened to your track and I quite liked it. Don't worry too much about using presets, Mr David Bowie himself said he likes using preset sounds, and everyone in the studio moans at him saying "oooh we better do our own sample" and he says "fuck it, whoever made the synth (or whatever) knows what they're doing, go with the preset." Fact: David Bowie has sold more albums than anyone on this board.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-04-15 06:13 [#01143659]
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hm i can see the link to reich, esp the part at 1:50
thats actually pretty good, so is the 'minimalist' percussion and the stuff at 2:20
but for chrissake, if i were you id lose the stuff in the intro. and the drum samples at 3:50 sound like mindless techno, and the repetetive melody line isnt worth those crappy sounds
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from Malmö (Sweden) on 2004-04-15 06:19 [#01143666]
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it's all about fruitys typical sounds, they do suck, i have used fruity myself for a long time.
And i dont mean! that youre suppose to buy yourself an shit expensive mic and record everything yourself, that is just not the way to start making music, your music sound exactly like mine did when i just started making music with floops.
my advice is that u dowload a set of samples or just stay away of very cheesy samples that are in fruityloops.
if u want i could hook u up with a bunch of nice basic samples or you can simply use Direct connect or something similar and u will find loads of samples that sounds better then the very small amount u get with fruity.
U should check the internet out for free VST synths and effekts, theres loads of them wich usually has nicer sounds then default synths in fruity.
im sry i dont have any links for you =/ i have them on a computer that is far away in another town.
But searching the internet for samples and plugins usually gives loads of resaults
good luck
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big
from lsg on 2004-04-15 06:54 [#01143706]
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hey, thanks for the comments everyone, i thought i'd sent this thread of to oblivion, but you saved it! :D
i really shouldnt care that much what other people think, but i do, cant help it. :-/
most importantly id like to say again that i liked those samples in floops and yes ill be finding other cool samples when i have dsl but for the time being i liked screwing around with these samples. yes i just started out, but im a perfectionist (though i couldnt go through the hassle of mixing)
and, for fun now on the track: hm i can see the link to reich, esp the part at 1:50 that part to me sounds like orbital, the box. the real reich sounding bit to me is from 2.14 with the mallet (i only know it's called that because of reich)
thats actually pretty good, yes so is the 'minimalist' percussion and the stuff at 2:20
all those sounds i connected to nine inch nails for some reason
but for chrissake, if i were you id lose the stuff in the
intro. those flutes in the intro too, like eraser, still the second half of the track i think is better
and the drum samples at 3:50 sound like mindless techno, well i was glad i could make a working up tempo beat, i never made that before (i made it with some kicks and snares and epecially delay. with the crappy ride i thought of your ride on swee, i kid you not)
and the repetetive melody line isnt worth those crappy sounds so you like the melody? as i said i like the combination of those melodies at 2.14
cheerio, big
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-04-15 06:55 [#01143710]
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thats actually pretty good, yes
that made me giggle
i know about the ride in swee swee and i hate it (lost the flp) so please dont make the same misstake and get it to sound a bit less annoying :)
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big
from lsg on 2004-04-15 07:28 [#01143813]
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to be just like you i deleted the flp file :D
you may check out s.a.w. too, it's really cheesy and even more fl sounding
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big
from lsg on 2004-04-16 11:56 [#01145998]
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mm im just listening without headphones: especially the bassline sounds terrible (not the basssynth that actually sounds better), and alot is out of balance together. s.a.w. sounds too empty.
and the drum samples at 3:50 sound like mindless techno well it's not 4 to the floor i believe, im not sure what is though because of the delays i used, kinda reminds me of the dust brothers, or so i wished
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big
from lsg on 2004-04-16 12:03 [#01146011]
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oh: it's still pretty good and with headphones awesome!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-16 12:29 [#01146061]
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this thread is DEAD!!
DEAL WITH IT!!11!!!!
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big
from lsg on 2004-04-16 12:44 [#01146098]
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yeahyeah i know but have you listened to it with headphones?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-16 12:50 [#01146109]
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yes.
I listened to it with headphones.
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big
from lsg on 2004-04-16 12:58 [#01146129]
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oh guess i still have to mix better i wonder how you guys all got to be such sound masters
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-16 13:07 [#01146149]
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ha ha
we didn't! :D
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big
from lsg on 2004-04-16 13:29 [#01146191]
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but it sounds so professional ill see when i get my soundforge i dont know if i can be arsed to screw around mastering or even mixing alot though. maybe i just have to find a frank arkwright
anihoo im gonna try to do some homework now
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