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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-04-12 21:32 [#01139897]
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''BARE KNUCKLE'' [/rasp]
Played this game this evening, and other than Axel's hideous yellow shirt, it's the explosive device. This soundtrack was made by Yuzo Koshiro, the one and only, in late '93 or early '94, and I'll be god DAMNED if this isn't some weird, adapted form of IDM.
The first two games had some nice beats. Funky, house, techno, dance, you name it. Tunes to dance or crack skulls to. In 3, fucker had carte blanche to do whatever he wanted, and threw everything at that electronic canvas. Keep in mind the Genesis had a relatively bad sound chip, not even close to the SUPER NES'. He coaxed some Devine-ish shit out of that warbly garbly chip. Bleeps and bloops and squeals and mechanical drones and jagged clinky clanks, man... it's a one of a kind soundtrack on that system, and that whole generation. Leans toward 4/4 techno beats, like the previous Bare Knuckles, but the sounds are way far out and stretch out over several minutes in some cases, with all kinds of variations and mutations. Nearly unheard of back then, man, in this form. Some of it is fucking abstract. and non sensical. What the hell are those noises during the Ninja Infested Subway? Christ, it would have fit right in on EP7!
Of course, 8 years ago when I played it, it sounded like convoluted garbage, dischordant noise. I know better now because I'm so much smarter, a ha! But really, this is an interesting soundtrack, it compares favorably to any electronic music of the time, for me... it's a damn shame he doesn't regularly do music anymore. From Shinobi to Act Raiser, he was the man.
I still think SOR2 had the best music of the series, but SOR3 was really something else.
That Genesis sound chip was gritty and mean.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-04-12 21:36 [#01139900]
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I heard a lot of Tri Repetae/EP and LP in this stuff, and it was YEARS before those. I just thought it was funny because I haven't played this game in a long time, not since I've been into electronic music, and it was pretty jarring.
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fungusman
from Monster Island on 2004-04-12 21:37 [#01139901]
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I swear to you I was going to make this thread like 3 days ago.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-12 21:37 [#01139902]
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yeh, i agree with you on the genesis sound thing... that system had some bite to it, like broken glass type sounds.
grainy little thing.
i dig this game series too... kinda basic and sorta simple, but fun.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-04-12 21:43 [#01139904]
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We are one.
Tibbar, have you heard 3? The first two are what I'd consider simple and basic (and lovely), but the third one has some head scratcher tracks. It's downright avant garde and shocking considering the hardware, to me.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-12 21:55 [#01139908]
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no, i havent...
i dont know if ive played that... i might, but maybe just dont remember the music.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-12 21:58 [#01139912]
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i guess i just sorta assumed you were exagerating it a bit, but im genuinely curious now
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-04-12 22:07 [#01139917]
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Here's all 35 tracks, for anyone who's interested. Use this thing to play the files.
Selection Screen, Lab, Hideout New Building (definite AE groove on that one, the tempo seems all out of whack), Moving Platform... probably my faves. BGM02 is insane, maybe the longest and most complex Genesis track around.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-04-12 22:11 [#01139921]
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Zophar, damn you! Copy and paste these.
http://www.zophar.net/gym/sor3.rar http://www.zophar.net/utilities/download/Meridian109.exe
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-04-12 22:45 [#01139928]
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wow, this is really wild-sounding. it's surprisingly aggressive and hard-edged. i'm not into the dancy stuff, but there's some really good tracks in there. very interesting and worthwhile listening. thanks, ophecks.
i'm really not into this meridian software, though.
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xf
from Australia on 2004-04-12 22:52 [#01139932]
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Any OS X apps to play this?
Any links to where I could download a rom?
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xf
from Australia on 2004-04-12 22:57 [#01139933]
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on research, just found http://underworld.fortunecity.com/virtua/513/3-15-99.htm
This is the game you're talking about? Does Streets of Rage have the same music?
On Googling the author (Yozo Koshiro):
http://www.mirsoft.info/gmb/musician_info.php?id_ele=NjA=
If this is the same game/person, wonder if any of the other soundtracks for those games is the same style.
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xf
from Australia on 2004-04-12 23:07 [#01139936]
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OS X player at http://www.bannister.org/software/ao.htm
And I meant does Bare Knuckle have the same music. I've known of Japanese games that have been renamed by Sega/Nintendo and they trash some really cool sound tracks with complete crap. :-(
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-04-13 00:20 [#01139957]
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the best is when you get to be the kangaroo
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wimp
on 2004-04-13 01:06 [#01139974]
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This music is pretty wild. I'd really like to play the game now!
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-04-13 01:11 [#01139978]
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i just downloaded the soundtrack.. this shit is crazy so far
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sneakattack
on 2004-04-13 01:22 [#01139986]
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Sonic CD has one nice track, track 21 if you get the emulation pack. It was mentioned here briefly once.
If you're on linux (mac users can utilize this as well), play with the xmms plugin 'xymms'. this music sucks by the way boo
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-04-13 01:25 [#01139988]
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do you know of a site I could go to to get the sonic songs?
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sneakattack
on 2004-04-13 01:28 [#01139990]
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the sonic CD ones I grabbed in a huge pack off of edonkey. I did seem them piece by piece once, after lots of digging through google. For other sonic versions I just enjoy it in a stupefied nostalgic way while playing..
lots of people have made midi versions of sonic music, but I guess they did it by ear because there were lots of notes wrong, sometimes it was transposed (I have perfect pitch), and the instruments were always crap.
eh that track 32 is like 1 meg I could email it to you
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sneakattack
on 2004-04-13 01:29 [#01139991]
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damnit I'm really a mongoloid.. track 21, not 32
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-04-13 01:32 [#01139993]
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yeah if you would email it to me that would be great :)
my email is public. (click my name)
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sneakattack
on 2004-04-13 01:35 [#01139997]
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email sent.. I'll tell you if it bounces. g'night
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Archrival
on 2004-04-13 04:43 [#01140114]
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I love both Streets Of Rage 1 and 2..I got Sega Genesis 16 bit and I love that tho. I get very nostalgic when I hear about these games :)
Ophecks I love those Streets of rage tracks (excellent soundtrack)!!! How to make them into mp3s!!? I wanna burn em on a cd.
And where can I find Streets of rage 3 and play it?
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-13 04:45 [#01140117]
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s'alright.
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Archrival
on 2004-04-13 05:08 [#01140134]
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I heard the whole thing now and some of the tracks was really weak :( some was great tho
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-13 07:08 [#01140281]
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there's a great track on there by cEvin key.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-04-13 07:12 [#01140289]
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Very very good music from ol' Yuzo Koshiro.
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Johnson Worlds
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2004-04-13 08:22 [#01140370]
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playing it in PAL i noticed the songs didn't keep the tempo in my version!? (swedish). Even if the song where just playing in sound test.. wierd.
Btw, hearing these tracks in the right tempo for the first time rocks!
Thanks Ophecks!!!
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-04-13 11:56 [#01140708]
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Yeah, that's something I notice with Genesis ROMS/.gyms... sometimes the tempo is all over the place, and it doesn't sound right. Thunder Force 4's .gym file is pretty erratic. That's one of my favorite soundtracks of all time, and that drives me nuts.
Xf- yeah, the soundtracks are the same in the US and Japanese versions. The game was degraded on the trip over, though. WAY too hard...
Another mega aggressive techno-based Genesis soundtrack is Contra Hard Corps.
Anyway, now for a random smattering of links. SOR1 and 2 soundtracks, may as well post them for convenience's sake-
http://www.zophar.net/gym/sor1.rar
http://www.zophar.net/gym/sor2.rar
And the SOR3 ROM
http://home.no.net/cocolola/feriebilder/sor3.zip
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-04-13 12:07 [#01140728]
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Thunderforce 4's soundtrack was brilliantly bonkers. Same with strider, totally atonal and harsh in places.
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