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Wasn't this film supposed to be released in february? I think that's what they said, when the 1st came? |
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someone told me it is going to be releases in april |
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it's a crap movie anyway. it's only because it's a tarantino movie people like it |
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i AGREE! |
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How do you know that a not-released movie is crap? |
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tarantino is a great director. i think kill bill vol1 is great, and also all his previous films. it's not 'only because it's a tarantino movie'. what the hell does that mean? if they movie was bad, would i still call it great because tarantino made it? why the fuck would me and the other people who liked killbill say that? |
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i liked pulp fiction, reservoir dogs and jackie brown...they were all alright, but nothing too exceptional. i think he's way overhyped. kill bill sucked imo...but since it's tarantino people loved it, naturally. he just always picks they right actors and that's it. well, he's not bad as director, but not all that great either. |
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nah. people loved it because it's a great tribute to great films! |
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there you go...it was all made in the past...it's like a remake (a bad one) of that old films. |
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"but since it's tarantino people loved it, naturally." i hate when people make these kinds of generalizations. i have a mind of my own. i'm not a dumb mindless sheep like you guys make it out to be. |
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yes, it was all made in the past, but that doesn't make it worse... this is a tribute! a GOOD tribute. |
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come on now...be honest! |
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ok, we disagree then... |
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it's even better if you've seen all the originals! lots of bruce lee tribute! |
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ok ill be honest i hated the film. it was unoriginal piece of shit movie. but as you know, i admire the director. so i lied to everybody that it was great. i don't know the reason for why i did this, but you superior intelligent beings that don't like killbill/tarantino sure would know. I am sheep, i go with the flow. i have no mind of my own. it was good to let this out. it was eating me alive. Thanks you guys! |
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i saw quite some lee films as a kid and i couldn't find much resemblance... it is a samurai film (with probably all the key elements), but it doesn't work with hollywood people...maybe if he had used the japanese actors it would be a bit better :) |
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i see. hmm, maybe you're taking the whole thing too serious :) nothing wrong with liking popular stuff btw. |
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couldn't find much resemblance? umas costume (yellow & black; game of death (also known as tower of death, but tower of death is used more for game of death II). Bruce Lee died while filming Game of Death, and therefore, most of the film is done using a body-double. The fight between Bruce Lee and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is real, though) the masks of all those 88 people (bruce lee wore a mask like that when playing "Cato" in "The Green Hornet," an old tv-show) There is some Jeet Kune-do in the film (Bruce developed this martial art) that's all I can remember right now, but I know I several times thought: "ah! that's from [a bruce lee flick]!" |
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aha! i knew i was missing something... |
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Mortsto: Go to a cinema near you right now and see Zatoichi! It's great! |
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I can't wait for Part 2 :D A lot of the sound effects used were from Old HK films as well. |
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if you can find it, watch Lady Snowblood 'Blizzard from the Netherworld'. Japanese movie from the (?) 60s. There you have it: a woman (sword master), with a deadly sword. A list of people's names she wants to kill for revenge. A balcony fighting scene, lots of blood!!!!! Tarantino is a brilliant thief, very entertaining movies to some point. |
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...what was really annoying for me is the torturing scene in 'Reservoir Dogs'. to show one guy being tortured (his ear being chopped off) while playing disco music?! Imagine this in 'the passion of Christ' |
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re bruce lee in kill bill: the whole setting of the final scrap [snow, outside the japanese building] with lucy liu's character was lifted from the final scene from fist of fury. there're a load of references i didn't pick up on because they link to the more obscure japanese slasher flicks too. there's a pdf of production notes to be downloaded from the site: http://www.kill-bill.com/vol1/Kill-Bill-Production-Notes.pd f and for the record, i loved kill bill the first time, but on the second watch i realised how dodgy most of the script is... it's not even good in a "charming parody of bad kung fu dialogue" way... |
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Cheers for the link. |
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i think kill bill is (going to be) better than jackie brown |
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Jackie Brown was a weak film. |
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April 16. I cant wait. April 13 it comes out on DVD, but I'll wait for the set :> |
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Well they're being cheeky with that. There's the separate releases and then, rumour has it, there'll be the obligatory boxset BUT it will have completely different extras to the single releases. I hope that is a lie. |
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wooh oo Micheal Madsen, Darryl Hannah and finally David Caradine... if its like the first one, this one will be quite amazing... the DVD comes out soon, so i'm expecting good things, at least something better than anything released this year |
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or you could look for the HUGE kill bill appreciation thread. |
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I didn't like number 1, so no reason to watch number 2 at all |
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yes, good idea. |
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exactly! People expect too much from a tribute revenge film. |
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I liked the movie 'cause it was good. I'm excited for the second one. I think taratino makes good movies. Do I like just because he made it? No, if it was crappy I would say I liked his other movies but kill bill was weak. But I like it, so I can say, I'm a big fan of his and kill bill 2 should be cool. Everyone always likes something another hates, all shit is relative that's why there's no point in arguing over music/movies/art |
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I love Kill Bill and i'm not really a big fan of Tarantino, I only like Reservior Dogs and Pulp Fiction really. His other films i'm not too keen on. If the second one is as good as or better than the first it will definately be my favourite work of his and the only that I would buy on DVD. |
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"How do you know that a not-released movie is crap?" Because it's the second part of an uninspired, dull and hugely disappointing first part? |
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DoinK! |
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I found Volume I to be very entertaining, albeit violent. I look forward to seeing Volume II once it's released. |
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"it's even better if you've seen all the originals! lots of bruce lee tribute! " Actually, after seeing those originals it starts sucking even more. I don't know if you noticed it but, since Kill Bill's major focus is revenge in a martial arts/action setting, you're bound to compare it to the martial arts/action revengeflicks it's paying tribute to. To have a compelling revengeflick you need somebody with a natural disposition befitting this sort of role so you're actually feeling their contained rage just by looking at them. People like Bruce Lee, Jet Li or Mel Gibson even. So tell me how in the hell you think Uma Thurman's unconvincing rage, her gangling posture and her inability to fight at all is gonna compare with the likes of the tremendously powerful, athletic, energetic and charismatic appearance of Bruce Lee? Right. She doesn't. So next he's paying tribute by copying the cinematics as seen in those movies. Right. As seen in those movies. I've seen it before so, having established that the action is far far worse, how is using those tried and tested cinematics gonna make up for the utterly boring fights? Right. They don't. Plus he couldn't get wild with the gore because of studiowankers so no consolidation on that part either. On a little side-note: People are all too eager to jump on the bandwagon and bash Matrix reloaded for it's boring fights,shitty story,crappy dialogue and acting, but yet they manage to rave about Kill Bill, while it's obviously even more tedious and crappy on all of those areas. I've seen better girlfights at the schoolyard. |
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*claps hands* |
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nice to see there are more people thinking the same 8-) |
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I loved part 2 and when I say I loved it I mean I think its a great movie |
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I disliked part 2. I quite liked part 1 but the story just about completely falls apart in this one. most of the dialogue is boring. and some of it is just laughable - when the Bride gives Bill that deathgrip-thingy.. ridiculous. only thing I thought was really good was the Driver/Bride fight. |
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i disliked both parts. i thought most of it was a failure with minor exceptions in the fighting scenes. i told my friend if he wanted to go watch an entertaining samurai movie to go watch Kiru! (released 1968). its if anything a strange movie. |
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I've gone off these Kill Bill films, they are ok to watch once but nothing i'd want to see again. Zatoichi was way better. |
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"I love Kill Bill and i'm not really a big fan of Tarantino, I only like Reservior Dogs and Pulp Fiction really. His other films i'm not too keen on. If the second one is as good as or better than the first it will definately be my favourite work of his and the only that I would buy on DVD. " im confused here, to me it sounds like you are a big fan, considering you like three of his four (now five) films im other words, kill bill 1 + 2, albeit different movies, are what expected from qt: cinema excellence. i like good films, not overhyped actors/directors. |
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