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offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-04-02 18:01 [#01130582]
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Just bought Ultravisitor - my first bleep purchase. Sounds
great! A well encoded VBR file is this " close to CD in my
humble opinion.

Ten bucks american is still on the steep side though -
considering there are no manufacturing, printing and
shipping costs, they could knock a few more dollars off that
price I figure. But I like to support services like bleep
and Emusic that offer high quality files with no DRM (copy
protection bullshit).

Oh yeah, great music too. :D


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-04-02 18:08 [#01130601]
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yeah, i bought Prefuse73 92vs.02 Collection.

It should be cheaper (like 99 cents a track) but mneh. I'm
trying to see if its worth it to incorporate a pay-by-track
system on my website, but it would be such a pain in the ass
methinks.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-04-02 18:10 [#01130603]
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it's too expensive imo...if it was half that price i'd be
probably getting more, just to ease the waiting for record
to come by mail.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-04-02 18:12 [#01130605]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to weatheredstoner: #01130601



Man, Ultravisitor's fifteen tracks! That's be five bucks
more expensive! :-O

I see Apple has really nailed the dollar a track meme into
people's heads... I think it should be more like 35 cents a
track.


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-04-02 18:14 [#01130607]
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but with apple a lot less goes to the artist.


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-04-02 18:15 [#01130609]
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removing distribution costs and not packaging costs (not to
mention not worrying about pressing too many copies) really
does cut a lot of expenses out of the proceedings... it
should be cheaper for sure


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-04-02 18:18 [#01130614]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to hobbes: #01130607



And not much goes to Apple either - the labels suck up most
of the profits. Apple's using it as a loss leader to boost
sales of their iPods. And the artists, as usual, get
screwed.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-04-02 18:19 [#01130616]
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I think that math works more for small independent labels -
the big labels have a huge bloated infrastructure they have
to support.


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-04-02 18:22 [#01130620]
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@fleetmouse
yeah!. profit over people nowdays.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-04-02 18:22 [#01130621]
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To clarify, I'm not disagreeing with you - just an
observation.


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-04-02 18:25 [#01130627]
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but we don't buy from those labels anyway, now do we?


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-04-02 18:41 [#01130651]
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"we" try not to. :-)

Sometimes you just have to make an exception though - HMV
had Hejira by Joni Mitchell for ten bucks (there's that
price again, hmmmm) so I had to have it.


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-04-02 18:45 [#01130659]
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the only major label stuff i've acquired in the last few
years has been lots of 60's jazz cds on blue note (which is
a division of emi)... and when i say acquire, i mean take
them out from the library and then rip them... the vast
majority of the artists are dead and the label has kind of
gone to shit... so... you know...


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-04-02 18:46 [#01130664]
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support tom by stikin it in the pink


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-04-03 01:03 [#01130885]
Points: 16065 Status: Regular | Followup to fleetmouse: #01130582



i think its a great thing, only i dont use it because its a
bit too expensive 1.35 € for a song...

the album prices are too close to having the real thing so
id rather buy that


 

offline bryce_berny from chronno (Canada) on 2004-04-03 01:33 [#01130900]
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bandwidth costs need to be taken into account


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-04-03 02:01 [#01130912]
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hahahahahaah

are you serious?
thats like 1 or 2 cent per tune


 

offline bryce_berny from chronno (Canada) on 2004-04-03 02:05 [#01130914]
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streaming previews etc...


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2004-04-03 02:20 [#01130920]
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as warp/bleep are a uk company all their prices are worked
out in relation to that. which is why it must appear more
expensive to anyone paying in $..
in the uk you pay £0.99 per song + £6.99(ish) for a cd,
which is pretty cheap in comparison with most cd outlets
here.
not only that but £0.50 for every £0.99 song sold goes
direct to the artist.. which is much more than they usually
receive from the sale of a cd in the highstreet.
eps + singles on bleep are roughly £2.99 (last time i
checked anyway) which is half what you'll pay for the cd in
most places.
all in all - i think (from a uk/artist perspective - its
pretty good value for money for all concerned)..

for major album releases + non-deleted items though, i still
prefer paying for the cd.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-04-03 08:04 [#01131052]
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not only that but £0.50 for every £0.99 song sold goes
direct to the artist.


Fantastic! More small labels should do this kind of thing. I
wonder if Warp has been talking to other labels about
distributing their stuff through bleep?


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-04-03 08:22 [#01131063]
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yes, skam and planet mu are gonna be added too

and i tought ninja tune m3rck and some others as well... not
sure


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-04-03 09:04 [#01131083]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker



cool beans - more labels means more uh labels innit

BTW if anyone downloads from bleep they'll find
this useful to rename the files from 01.mp3 to
like 01 - ultravisitor.mp3 etc. - no longer being developed
but it works fine.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-04-03 09:09 [#01131084]
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i'm waiting for Warp to sell AAC files on here

i won't touch MP3s anymore, not after hearing AACs

as soon as there's AACs on there, i'll be spending a lot of
money getting some releases that i haven't got!


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-04-03 09:33 [#01131089]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to oscillik: #01131084



I've never heard an AAC - are there some files somewhere I
can listen to?

I think mp3s encoded with lame --alt-preset standard are
pretty darn good. It's an open source encoder that's been
heavily developed over the past few years and it's done well
in double blind tests.


 


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