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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-04-02 18:01 [#01130582]
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Just bought Ultravisitor - my first bleep purchase. Sounds great! A well encoded VBR file is this " close to CD in my humble opinion.
Ten bucks american is still on the steep side though - considering there are no manufacturing, printing and shipping costs, they could knock a few more dollars off that price I figure. But I like to support services like bleep and Emusic that offer high quality files with no DRM (copy protection bullshit).
Oh yeah, great music too. :D
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-04-02 18:08 [#01130601]
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yeah, i bought Prefuse73 92vs.02 Collection.
It should be cheaper (like 99 cents a track) but mneh. I'm trying to see if its worth it to incorporate a pay-by-track system on my website, but it would be such a pain in the ass methinks.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-04-02 18:10 [#01130603]
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it's too expensive imo...if it was half that price i'd be probably getting more, just to ease the waiting for record to come by mail.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-04-02 18:12 [#01130605]
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Man, Ultravisitor's fifteen tracks! That's be five bucks more expensive! :-O
I see Apple has really nailed the dollar a track meme into people's heads... I think it should be more like 35 cents a track.
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hobbes
from age on 2004-04-02 18:14 [#01130607]
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but with apple a lot less goes to the artist.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-04-02 18:15 [#01130609]
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removing distribution costs and not packaging costs (not to mention not worrying about pressing too many copies) really does cut a lot of expenses out of the proceedings... it should be cheaper for sure
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-04-02 18:18 [#01130614]
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And not much goes to Apple either - the labels suck up most of the profits. Apple's using it as a loss leader to boost sales of their iPods. And the artists, as usual, get screwed.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-04-02 18:19 [#01130616]
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I think that math works more for small independent labels - the big labels have a huge bloated infrastructure they have to support.
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hobbes
from age on 2004-04-02 18:22 [#01130620]
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@fleetmouse yeah!. profit over people nowdays.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-04-02 18:22 [#01130621]
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To clarify, I'm not disagreeing with you - just an observation.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-04-02 18:25 [#01130627]
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but we don't buy from those labels anyway, now do we?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-04-02 18:41 [#01130651]
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"we" try not to. :-)
Sometimes you just have to make an exception though - HMV had Hejira by Joni Mitchell for ten bucks (there's that price again, hmmmm) so I had to have it.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-04-02 18:45 [#01130659]
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the only major label stuff i've acquired in the last few years has been lots of 60's jazz cds on blue note (which is a division of emi)... and when i say acquire, i mean take them out from the library and then rip them... the vast majority of the artists are dead and the label has kind of gone to shit... so... you know...
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-04-02 18:46 [#01130664]
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support tom by stikin it in the pink
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-04-03 01:03 [#01130885]
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i think its a great thing, only i dont use it because its a bit too expensive 1.35 € for a song...
the album prices are too close to having the real thing so id rather buy that
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2004-04-03 01:33 [#01130900]
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bandwidth costs need to be taken into account
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-04-03 02:01 [#01130912]
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hahahahahaah
are you serious? thats like 1 or 2 cent per tune
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2004-04-03 02:05 [#01130914]
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streaming previews etc...
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-04-03 02:20 [#01130920]
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as warp/bleep are a uk company all their prices are worked out in relation to that. which is why it must appear more expensive to anyone paying in $..
in the uk you pay £0.99 per song + £6.99(ish) for a cd, which is pretty cheap in comparison with most cd outlets here.
not only that but £0.50 for every £0.99 song sold goes direct to the artist.. which is much more than they usually receive from the sale of a cd in the highstreet.
eps + singles on bleep are roughly £2.99 (last time i checked anyway) which is half what you'll pay for the cd in most places.
all in all - i think (from a uk/artist perspective - its pretty good value for money for all concerned)..
for major album releases + non-deleted items though, i still prefer paying for the cd.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-04-03 08:04 [#01131052]
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not only that but £0.50 for every £0.99 song sold goes direct to the artist.
Fantastic! More small labels should do this kind of thing. I wonder if Warp has been talking to other labels about distributing their stuff through bleep?
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-04-03 08:22 [#01131063]
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yes, skam and planet mu are gonna be added too
and i tought ninja tune m3rck and some others as well... not sure
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-04-03 09:04 [#01131083]
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cool beans - more labels means more uh labels innit
BTW if anyone downloads from bleep they'll find this useful to rename the files from 01.mp3 to like 01 - ultravisitor.mp3 etc. - no longer being developed but it works fine.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-04-03 09:09 [#01131084]
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i'm waiting for Warp to sell AAC files on here
i won't touch MP3s anymore, not after hearing AACs
as soon as there's AACs on there, i'll be spending a lot of money getting some releases that i haven't got!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-04-03 09:33 [#01131089]
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I've never heard an AAC - are there some files somewhere I can listen to?
I think mp3s encoded with lame --alt-preset standard are pretty darn good. It's an open source encoder that's been heavily developed over the past few years and it's done well in double blind tests.
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