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loopychoon
on 2004-03-30 15:15 [#01125395]
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Hi chaps, I had an enjoyable time last night in the pub telling some zitty faced kiddo how he didn't know what the hell he was talking about.
Basically he said "Aphex Twin just regurgitates what has been done over the last ten years.."
I can't be bothered to refute that here, I'm sure you can all see how this guy knows nothing.
However, he did say one interesting thing: he claimed Surfing On Sine Waves was actually by "Apex's recording engineer".
Now, although I think this is garbage, I wonder where he got this idea to squeeze into his one tiny brain cell.
Anyone know the origin of this (or was he making it up)?
Cheers!
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-03-30 15:17 [#01125403]
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i think he's taking the piss there mate
what the fuck does RDJ need a sound engineer for??
i've never heard of him using or needing one in the past
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from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-03-30 15:18 [#01125405]
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i was that "zitty faced kiddo"
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loopychoon
on 2004-03-30 15:27 [#01125422]
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I hope so. I don't mind that at all.. except he was a mate of somebody I know who said he's a bit of a nob end, so I doubt it.
I can see why it looks like a piss take from my post, but you had to be there.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-03-30 15:29 [#01125426]
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well, from what i've read, RDJ has been making hardware synths since he was 13
does that sound like the kind of person who needs an engineer to work on his stuff?
:)
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-03-30 15:31 [#01125432]
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there is no evidence that rdj has made his own hardware, not even by grant
rephlex hype
i could do that, but does it work
? maybe/maybe not ?
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Q4Z2X
on 2004-03-30 15:33 [#01125438]
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i kind of agree with him about the regurgitation part.. well not completely.. rich's done quite a bit to change the face of "electronic music" but his styles are so spread all over the place that a little "regurgitation" of other music is impossible to avoid. one of the great things about rich is he can write in so many different styles/timbres and mix a few together to get something unique.. and it always has his touch that you can usually instantly recognise. for someone to vilify him as a total regurgitator would be wrong.. he's much more original and innovative than most other musicians of his popularity.. and every musician borrows sounds/style/ideas from other musicians.. unless they somehow lived their life under a rock composing their own "music" having never actually heard anyone else's music before.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-03-30 15:33 [#01125439]
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well, i was just referring to the AFXFAQ that i had read
i'm sure it was in there that i read it
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-03-30 15:36 [#01125445]
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even still, if a musician were to be confined to never having heard any other music, there would be some similarites obviously
even if only tiny
:)
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from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-03-30 15:36 [#01125446]
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yeah i remember that also, do you still have a linky to the 10 or so pages ?
ii printed it off at home, but i wanna see it again.thanks.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-03-30 15:37 [#01125449]
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i've found one, but it doesn't look like the one i read
might be an updated version though
linkage
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-03-30 15:40 [#01125455]
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thanks, thats version 2,it appears
none the less
FILE/PRINT
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loopychoon
on 2004-03-30 15:41 [#01125461]
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Well, I think some aspect of regurgitation is implied in most art, however this guy was just being innane.
I was originally talking to somebody else who asked me about Mixing It on Radio 3 so I said something like "They play everything from Partch to ethnic to Aphex etc.."
At which point this guy butts in saying "Aphex is shit!" I simply asked why he thinks that and he starts ranting all this crap.
Btw oscillik, I'm not considering whether some engineer did the album, I am wondering where such a story would have come from (unless he made it up) since it would be hard to take seriously enough to take hold and yet at the same time.. myth and AFX go hand in hand.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-03-30 15:45 [#01125467]
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i know mate :)
that's my point though
i don't think RDj would ever use an engineer, regardless of whether it's to get him to assist with mixing or whatever, because he can do it all himself.
that's why, imo, i think it's not very plausable that Surfing On Sine Waves could have been done by "AFX's engineer" because i don't think he'd ever use an engineer in the first place
:)
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2004-03-31 00:48 [#01125831]
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don't be a square, everybody will work with a sound enginneer when the right time as come... (like mastering an album)
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cirrius logic
on 2004-03-31 01:28 [#01125846]
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Tis bullshite.
The only weird thing mentioned about the surfing on sine waves album was in an early future music interview where richard said the drum sounds had been updated as the orignal recordings sounded shit... but I think that was just more bullshit covering up the fact he didn't have a 909.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-03-31 01:32 [#01125852]
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well... if he's his own sound engineer.. wouldn't that make the kid right?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-03-31 02:06 [#01125915]
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Didn't Tom Middleton (one half of Jedi Knights) used to be the "other member" of Aphex Twin? Maybe he's gettng confused about that?
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S M Pennyworth
from East Timor on 2004-03-31 03:18 [#01126015]
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"a.k.a schizophrenia"
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snAre
from .oO Ghent Oo. (Belgium) on 2004-03-31 04:53 [#01126149]
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Was there ever a second member in "aphex twin"? First time I hear about that... (I tought "twin" refered to his brother, who died at birth... )
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-03-31 04:57 [#01126153]
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second member?! nah.. isn't it mike and rich then?!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-03-31 05:04 [#01126157]
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Yes... in the early days.
From the Aphex Twin Faq:
"Is Richard James really the only man in aphex twin?
Yes, he performs completely as a one man operation on most of his
albums, usually out of his home studio. But there have been instances where he has worked with other musicians, such as Mike Paradinas, of mu-Ziq. But this (excluding the collaboration with Tom Middleton on AB1)work is released under different names."
The kid loopychoon met was probably regurgitating this and confused AB1 with Polygon Window (same period).
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cirrius logic
on 2004-03-31 05:23 [#01126168]
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Tom Middleton has the same birthday as richard james.
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cirrius logic
on 2004-03-31 05:23 [#01126169]
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and then richard went off with tom's girlfriend.
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cirrius logic
on 2004-03-31 05:25 [#01126170]
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...above came from some trance europe express compilation (which came with a booklet of interviews).
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-03-31 09:40 [#01126435]
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Aphex had somebody program software for him.
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