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Are people too consumed in their own tracks to really
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-03-21 12:44 [#01112283]
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Are people too consumed in their own tracks to really appreciate others? Lets discuss.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-03-21 12:46 [#01112287]
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no
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-03-21 12:47 [#01112289]
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Ok. I wasn't entirely sure myself. Its just something I've wondered about from time to time.
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2004-03-21 12:55 [#01112295]
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to many people spam and dont listen to others
i am part guilty of this i d/l every track i see on here but i lose the threads easly and cant be arsed to find them to comment
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-03-21 12:57 [#01112298]
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I helped you out there :)
But i guess people are to consumed in their own genre/style they don't appreciate others, i.e. I saw this topic lately on a other mb, about this new artist "gravenhurst" on warp, people judged the guy before even hearing his music cause he referse to music artists that aren't in the genre/style people listen to; they are so stupid and definately not open minded
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2004-03-21 13:00 [#01112301]
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gravenhurst is good i was shocked when i saw warp had signed them
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-03-21 13:07 [#01112305]
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well fuck me silly
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melack
from barcielwave on 2004-03-21 13:08 [#01112307]
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when i have a decent connection i will download everyone's tracks... and make my personal album collection of xlt artists...
ill be patient.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-03-21 13:14 [#01112313]
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Yeah I'd agree that there are a number of posters who 'spam' but don't bother to check out others music. I mean I don't want to be excused of double standards on any issue but I think out of courtesy if some has commented on your track then one should return the favour. That said I wouldn't want to enforce it or seen to be Nazi over it. A lot of people just don't have good manors and thats just the way it goes I guess.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-03-21 13:20 [#01112323]
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i was reading the instructions on a Lady's Feminine Wash product in the walgreens the other day, and it said to only listen to other peoples tracks if they listen to mine
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-03-21 13:21 [#01112326]
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And?
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-03-21 13:22 [#01112327]
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i've never felt so fresh
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2004-03-21 13:39 [#01112338]
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vagiclean?
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-03-21 13:42 [#01112342]
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Aisle 5
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2004-03-21 14:09 [#01112380]
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i like it when people check my tracks, but i don't like the idea of people feeling obligated to listen, or people feeling that i am obligated to listen to theirs because they listened to mine.
i sure as hell don't listen to make anyone feel good; i listen because i'm interested in hearing what people are up to and have heard some great music as a result. i like to give positive feedback. just so you know, though, i won't tell you if your music is shit. you say you don't mind criticism, but we both know you can't take it! : P
i am unquestionably, however, my own biggest fan.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-03-21 14:12 [#01112385]
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Well sure everything you say is a given.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-03-21 14:14 [#01112391]
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the joke is that Lady's Feminine Wash product is more commonly refered too as "douche"
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2004-03-21 14:30 [#01112416]
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I really do what I can to check out, and review, other peoples tracks, as I would like them to check mine...
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2004-03-21 14:39 [#01112436]
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a given? obviously not, promo. otherwise, why would people repeatedly refer to listening to someone's tracks as a "favor" to be returned?
why would people then list the expectation of reciprocation as a motivation for listening to other's music?
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-03-21 14:41 [#01112440]
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Well broadly speaking I'd agree with them but broadly speaking I agree with what you wrote also.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-03-21 14:44 [#01112446]
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i download and comment on tracks if and when i see them :)
i do try my best to listen and give constructive views, because i would like other people to listen and give constructive views on my stuff too
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-03-21 14:48 [#01112460]
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As soon as my life is back together I'll start reviewing again... not to fear, not to fear
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-03-21 15:41 [#01112530]
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i haven't been d/l ing peeps stuff lately. been kinda busy and only just lurking around here. sorry peeps.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-03-21 15:48 [#01112536]
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There are certain people here who I would say have no sense of fun about their music making, seeing it as an intellectual artform, and wanting to be taken as a serious musician. The same goes when people review other peoples tracks, some people are just far too serious.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-03-21 15:50 [#01112539]
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That post started out promising and got kind of repetitive in the second sentence. Need some breakbeats.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-03-21 15:52 [#01112542]
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wasn't paying attention. was looking at panties.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-03-21 16:05 [#01112554]
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Well I was thinking that but I was typing it through an old keyboard which meant that the quality suffered a little bit plus you musn't be on the same intellectual level as myself to understand this style of message.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2004-03-21 16:09 [#01112560]
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yeah
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-03-21 16:30 [#01112587]
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Oh I see - it's the aliasing from your keyboard that makes you appear to repeat yourself - or is it variations on a theme variation on a theme variation on a themes variations a themes on
LAZY_STEVE_REICH
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-03-21 16:34 [#01112588]
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oh that...that was all fully intentional...I like that shit kind off sound.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-21 16:37 [#01112590]
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mm, well, I don't know about my own music, but I try to take other people's music serious. I mean, I try to give real criticism not just something like "cool" or something. try to really say something.
this is also why I don't listen to everything, only now and then - it just takes me some time to give a good listen and write something decent.
I don't know if that's what you mean by taking people's music too serious..?
(that said, I always like it when the music makes me laugh - be it something in structure or a sound.)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-21 16:40 [#01112592]
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I completely agree with plaidzebra on this.
I truely appreciate it when someone listens and comments, but noone should feel pressured.
I therefore dislike it VERY much when, say, person A posts in a music thread by person B to say they will listen and at the same time asking if person B would now please check out person A's own music, as some kind of trade - especially if person A's music threads already get a reasonable amount of attention.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-03-21 16:42 [#01112594]
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presumably when people are asking for feedback they want to know what you think about it... perhaps they would like to hear your suggestios as to how to make it better... granted they may not accept the criticisms, but i always figured they'd rather hear my suggestions than just some goofy response that has nothing to do with anything... i mean, if a track strikes me a certain way, then i'll say what it is i have to say... but as far as i know, a lot of the artists are looking for constructive criticism... am i wrong?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-21 16:43 [#01112595]
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no.
I believe you to be right.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-03-21 16:49 [#01112604]
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(If you're refering to me in Archrival's thread earlier this evening) I did that because I know Archrival likes my stuff and also that he likes Jazz. I wasn't even notifying "the general populance" of its existance until promo suggested I make a new thread for it. (If you're not refering to me, sorry for getting paranoid :-)
Deadeight: Yeah, I like constructive criticism, so long as it's worded politely it's very useful. Sometimes, if a track is really awful and I can't say anything nice/positive about it, I just won't mention that I DLed it.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-21 16:54 [#01112610]
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you're getting paranoid! :)
no, I'm more referring to the people who make a habit of it. really
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-03-21 16:58 [#01112615]
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He he, I was about to argue that I don't do it very often at all, if it was directed at me ;-)
Some people on here whose music I really like (and regularly comment on) have never commented on my music. Doesn't bother me really, perhaps they share my "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" attitude and just don't like it!
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2004-03-21 18:30 [#01112712]
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i think the same way as braindance here
ive seen people wreck things for themselves by taking themselves so seriously that they abuse people for having a different taste.
but really, over-intellectuallising on either the author or the listeners behalf takes a lot of fun out - which should be the point!
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2004-03-21 18:48 [#01112720]
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yes, people who make music are full of themselves and think theyre the best.
theyre not the best,
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-21 18:52 [#01112725]
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except me.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-03-21 19:01 [#01112742]
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yes i beleive so ....
that is why i choose not to make my own music, in all honesty
;)
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-03-21 19:05 [#01112749]
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i always try to listen to people's tracks. the only reason i don't do so more often is because i'm on a phone connection.
i try to return criticism to everyone whenever they critique me, but it isn't always possible. besides, if i were too consumed with my own music - then i'd lack inspiration completely, because other music is what gives me inspiration the most amongst other things. :)
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-03-21 19:07 [#01112754]
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No, this board is good for listening to other people's stuffies, and saying good things about bad music. Not that anybody here makes bad music... because that simply isn't the case!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-21 19:10 [#01112760]
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liar!
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2004-03-21 19:47 [#01112841]
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yes.
I SPEAK THE TRUTH (as I perceive it)
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