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Which do you prefer? The former? The latter? Neither? BOTH? You, the public, decide. |
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Vinyl crackle can be used for good. Tape hiss is pure evil. |
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Tape hiss will have its time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And it will rule the world aha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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NEW CONTENDER: Low-bitrate distortion!!!111 Now THAT's evil. I'm quite partial to a bit of retro tape hiss. |
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I have a soft spot for both. "incomplete without surface noise" |
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BOTH but yes low bitrate compression noise is the evil. |
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People have send to me in the past; 'Oh nice white noise effect or cool tape hiss effect on your track' and I'm like 'no its real because it actually came from a tape'. He he he. |
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You do not know how much tape hiss pisses me off. |
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nothing beats a shitty 128 kbit rip. |
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except a shitty 96, 64 or 56kbps rip |
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NEW CONTENDER: radio noise & dynamic-suck |
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low bit rate and radio noise |
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the clunk at the beginning of tapes you used to buy, and the little chime, has gone down in history |
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How about Real Audio, a.k.a .ram files? |
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.RAM, the devil's own format. |
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Ram = goat (pagan symbol of evil)... coincidence? I think not. |
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i 'like' saving my drum loops as 32 kbps mp3 adds a special quality to it all :) |
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my preference either must go to the "too much fluff on the stylus causing it to skate right across the record leaving a permanent reminder to you of how stupid you are not to check your stylus before playing a record" or "stacking of too many records on top of each other (usually more than 5) causing the records to lose grip and play at some random (less than 45rpm) speed and possibly come to a complete halt therefore the only sound to can hear is the records rubbing together". |
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One day, musicians with professional quality studios will use old software/gear to get that "late ninties" horrible mp3 quality, just like people use expensive gear/plugins to get 70s sounding distortion now... |
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re: stacking, you can get a similar effect by overtightening record centres (using tape label backing and sellotape). Sometimes this also adds a high pitched squeek to the recording too. |
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Ah, scratched records... like having your own personal lock groove, isn't it. |
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i prefer vinyl crackle, but tape hiss is nice... as is radio feedback.... i love swimming through soupy soundscapes... |
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A record of mine skipped in quite a good, locked groove way due to having a tiny candle wax fleck in the groove. It didn't make that annoying click that skipping records do, but did actually sound like an intentional locked groove. I "fixed" it by running my thumbnail along that section of the groove, but it does make you wonder if it would be possible to devise an undoable, good sounding, record skipping technique. |
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I guess that's an interesting point. I always used to love messing around with old tapes, taking them apart and reversing them, magnetizing bits, cutting and splicing with sellotape :D i'd like to try something like that. CDs microwaved for just a second or two sound very odd too, sometimes good, sometimes awful. |
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that's the kind of thing that dudes like philip jeck, christian marclay, janek schaefer, claus van bebber, and dieb13 do... can be very cool sometimes, the shit they come up with... i love jeck... |
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*cough* yoseph *cough* stan d'infamy *cough* |
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microwaved CD?? Sounds tasty |
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Digital Clipping! |
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in oval we trust... |
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I like hiss and noise, but only when inteded. Filter the noise and play a tune on it. |
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tape hiss all the way.. |
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Okay, which one do you prefer: - whitenoise - pinknoise - brownnoise Argh! There is one AE track with nice noise/hiss used... I forgot title... |
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I hate vynil crackles |
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vinyl crackle is good only when it comes from an actual record. i used to think it sounded neat on a track when the artist put it in, but not really. i recorded a different version of an old song of mine a couple months ago, and the tape i used had some serious hiss on it. at first i thought it sucked, but i realized it just added to the atmosphere of the track. did anyone actually read all of this? |
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Analog Warmth :) |
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so you like tape hiss, but not vinyl crackle? i love vinyl crackle when it's used properly... jelinek and delay and pole... some of my favourite artists... |
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vinyl crackle, by far! |
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are you joking is there such a thing as pink- and brown-noise? |
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it's not really that i like either one more than the other. but the hiss added to the one track, and the crackle sounds good when it's either: ripped from the actual vinyl, or if i'm listening to vinyl. that's all. sempoo: analog recording is the way to go! i've been doing it for the past 4 years (the expanse of my music creating career). i love it. |
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yeah! i love the pink and brown noise as well as the white. but im not sure of the difference. |
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white 0dB/octave pink level falls 3dB/octave brown 6 |
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now i know... and when people ask about such things, i will be able to be very specific... thank you |
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an artist, Reynolds, has made a record entirely from the sound of blank tapes.... it's on the Trente Oiseaux label, you can find a sound sample at aquariusrecords.org... , in...... real audio (sorry) |
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that's really cool... haven't heard too much trent oiseaux stuff yet... |
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oh this sample is nice... nice low-end noise... kind of reminds me of some of oren ambarchi's more bass-grounded work... only very mucky... |
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yeah I thought I remembered learning about pink noise... but brown-noise seemed suspicially fart-joke worthy... so it was hard to be sure. |
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: ) it's a nice label... not a very big one at all, but has some nice music... 'Un Peu De Neige Salie' by Bernhard Günter and 'The Golden Boat' by Keith Berry are excellent (if you're tolerant about high pitched frequencies/sounds)! |
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i know i've heard some Bernhard Gunter... Time Dreaming Itself, i believe it was... it's comforting to know that there are always plenty more avant labels for me to checkout... i've been really into a lot of Touch and Erstwhile lately... |
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there´s a track from iss sa which has some "real audio"-sounding beats on the end... 8-12 bit samples are often great for music production I think, but clipping, crackles and hiss is best when replaced by silence. |
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I thought the brown noise was the frequency that causes bowel disruption in humans. (seriously) Military implications and all that. |
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