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         |  horsefactory
             from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-15 14:16 [#01109264] Points: 14867 Status: Regular
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 | Al-Losers. That's gold, you should get that broadcast on Aljazeera, I'm pretty sure the group would collapse shortly
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         |  ecnadniarb
             on 2004-03-15 14:18 [#01109266] Points: 24805 Status: Lurker | Followup to horsefactory: #01109264 | Show recordbag
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 | ahahahaha proper Lol. moment. 
 
 
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         |  zazen
             on 2004-03-15 14:18 [#01109269] Points: 186 Status: Lurker | Followup to ChildrenTalking: #01109235
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 | > i think she was just being forthcoming as to how spains >decision for party official has created a damaging state
 of
 >affairs between the two countries
 I don't see how you draw that inference from her article.
 
 Zapatero has said one of his immediate priorities would be
 fighting terrorism, and today a whitehouse spokesman said
 Bush and Zapatero were looking forward to working together.
 (see yahoo news )
 
 its not as if spain has announced that it has become friends
 with al qaeda, or that it will not co-operate with the 'war
 on terror'. It has suggested that it may pull out of iraq,
 but thats a separate issue (unless you watch fox new etc).
 
 While I'm at it, here's a good chomsky interview, although
 its too old to cover recent events:
 chomsky interview
 
 
 
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         |  ChildrenTalking
             from United States on 2004-03-15 14:20 [#01109274] Points: 2712 Status: Addict
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 | i'm glad people can find some positive in something so wrong. the cup is half full i agree not half empty.
 
 
 
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         |  Cfern
             from Sacto (United States) on 2004-03-15 14:23 [#01109277] Points: 1384 Status: Lurker
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 | well the thing with birthrates is you have an ageing and shrinking population.. if you want to have socialism have
 you to have people to take money from right?  in 15 years
 something like half the population of spain will be over
 50... then with the forced retirement thing...  there won't
 be enough people to run the jobs....
 ....  so the only solution is let more immigrants in..
 however do to laws they are entiled to more free money from
 the goverement taken from working people and the cylce goes
 on...
 . i don't really know europe feels about immigrants...
 here in america it's all good... ps i am a spainaid
 myself..my grandparents immigranted here from
 
 
 
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         |  zazen
             on 2004-03-15 14:32 [#01109296] Points: 186 Status: Lurker | Followup to promo: #01109257
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 | >For sure they (Al-Losers) wouldn't have expected the result
 >they achieved but now they've got it they'll be thinking
 >'hell we can do this lets give some other country a go'.
 >They wont rest until they've got as many countries under
 >their thumb as possible.
 
 my point is that al qaeda werent resting anyway. they are a
 threat regardless of the spanish election result.
 
 the situation is spain was fairly unique, with aznar
 supporting the iraq war against the wishes of the
 population, and then blaming eta for the bombs despite their
 denials of involvement. if (god forbid) something similar
 happened in the uk or us near an election, the repercussions
 would not be easily predictable. To suggest that they would
 be is very simplistic.
 
 IMHO I think this 'analyst' woman is just trying to scare
 people and put a guilt trip on the spanish population .... I
 thought the US held democracy to be sacrosanct? what does it
 mean to criticise the citizens of another country for the
 way they voted?
 
 
 
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         |  zazen
             on 2004-03-15 14:35 [#01109303] Points: 186 Status: Lurker | Followup to Cfern: #01109277
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 | > .... so the only solution is let more immigrants in.. >however do to laws they are entiled to more free money
 from
 >the goverement taken from working people and the cylce
 goes
 >on...
 this logic only holds if the immigrants are unproductive,
 which is rarely the case.
 
 
 
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         |  ChildrenTalking
             from United States on 2004-03-15 14:36 [#01109305] Points: 2712 Status: Addict
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 | ok i take back the insults to the spanish people. it was in bad taste. but the other insults i dont, infact i reinforce
 them.
 
 
 
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         |  Xanatos
             from New York City (United States) on 2004-03-15 14:43 [#01109318] Points: 3316 Status: Moderator | Followup to zazen: #01109296 | Show recordbag
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 | "IMHO I think this 'analyst' woman is just trying to scare people and put a guilt trip on the spanish population"
 
 You're half right, this letter is directed to scare American
 people.  But this letter isn't intended to be seen by
 Spanish people at all.  I doubt this letter has in any way
 been actually extended to spanish recipients. It's meant to
 make people vote for George Bush, as that entire site is.
 
 
 
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         |  Xanatos
             from New York City (United States) on 2004-03-15 14:45 [#01109326] Points: 3316 Status: Moderator | Followup to ChildrenTalking: #01109305 | Show recordbag
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 | ChildrenTalking: why don't you insult the spineless people in a democratic -- I mean communist -- country that wasn't
 attacked by terrorists? Like Germany or France? That's in
 better taste!
 
 
 
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         |  ChildrenTalking
             from United States on 2004-03-15 14:51 [#01109343] Points: 2712 Status: Addict
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 | (i'm sorry i can't respond to xanatos anymore because i'm too embarrased as he pointed out previously before)
 
 
 
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         |  Xanatos
             from New York City (United States) on 2004-03-15 15:13 [#01109396] Points: 3316 Status: Moderator | Followup to ChildrenTalking: #01109343 | Show recordbag
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 | No, I was saying you are 'embarassing' other conservatives who are able to make sound and factual arguments, in
 response to your suggestion that ecnadniarb 'just pull your
 pands down and ask osama to stick it to you.'
 
 That kind of talk just solidifies people in their views,
 instead of encouraging serious debate and democratic
 openness of ideas, as does your refusal to respond to me.
 
 
 
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         |  promo
             from United Kingdom on 2004-03-15 15:16 [#01109402] Points: 4227 Status: Addict | Followup to Xanatos: #01109396
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 | Yeah but you gotta admit it was funny. Had me rolling around anyways.
 
 
 
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         |  X-tomatic
             from ze war room on 2004-03-15 15:54 [#01109434] Points: 2901 Status: Lurker
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 | I wish for thickskulled Childrentalking and his trusty sidekick promo to fuel more of these kind of topics with
 their mindless ravings as they were the cause of a highly
 enjoyable read tonight.
 
 
 
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         |  nacmat
             on 2004-03-15 15:59 [#01109441] Points: 31275 Status: Lurker
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 | hahahahahha 
 its incredible.... and funny
 
 
 
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