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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-03 15:12 [#01097861]
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The future is here
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-03-03 15:24 [#01097870]
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jeezus that thing is expensive for what is essentially a crappy laptop stuck to a midi controller.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-03 15:28 [#01097871]
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ha ha
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-03-03 15:29 [#01097873]
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That would be my worst nightmare. I hate all in one things :P
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-03 15:31 [#01097875]
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"oh no one bit of my all-in-one-thing is broken. oh look, now I can't use any bit of my all-in-one-thing."
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-03-03 15:35 [#01097879]
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That's the first thing I thought of. Also the resolution on the screen in shitty and the externally supported resolution is the same.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-03-03 16:09 [#01097890]
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Beat me to it :)
Having an AMD processor ain't so hot either...
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-03-03 16:11 [#01097892]
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Nah. the internals will just use existing connections, so if one part broke the rest would still work, it would just be a bit shit.
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Sempoo
from Barlinek (Pluto) on 2004-03-03 16:12 [#01097893]
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Isn't it some kind of retardation?
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-03 16:28 [#01097907]
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this concept may be in it's early stages but they are on the right track I think, harware & software working seamlessly together with no compatability problems sounds like a dream come true.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-03-03 17:07 [#01097928]
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how much is it?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-03-03 17:15 [#01097934]
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I'd like a small self contained hardware equivalent of a PC base unit thing you could mount in a rack flightcase (about the size of say, a 12" record flightcase) for gigging. It should have ports to attach a midi controller/keyboard, mouse and flatscreen monitor that would fit in the same flightcase "over" the main body of the device- with just the ports sticking out underneath. Perhaps even some sort of dual system whereby you can flick between two identical systems (chained together) in the event of a crash...
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-03-03 17:20 [#01097936]
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I saw that thing a while ago in Keyboard Mag, but kept forgetting to post it here.. I think it seems pretty fucking cool..
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-03-03 17:23 [#01097937]
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list price $6450. sells for $5175.95
at Costco you can get a 3.0ghz toshiba laptop for $1399 you can get a radium 61 key midi controler for $200 you'd still have $3577 dollars left over to buy a second laptop you can dedicate to porn and videogames.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-03-03 17:27 [#01097941]
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why not make one?
you could easily make your own machine into any config you want, you could make it a 6U rack mount or something, and it'd be totally self contained (i mean, you could have 2 computer systems in there, and like you say, in the event of a crash, you switch over) you could put your own ports and everything on there
people have made PC's out of NES systems, and toasters
i dont see why not out of a rackmountable system ;)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-03-03 17:28 [#01097942]
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Or a second laptop, a 2x2 midi breakout box and a good 2 channel mixer, so you can run both laptops, with bass and drums on one and melody/synths and samples on the other, synched to the midi box. That way:
a) You'd have more processing power available and b) In the event of a crash on one machine, you could still keep playing on the other one till the other machine came back up.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-03-03 17:30 [#01097945]
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Ceri you can buy rack mount PC cases in a variety of sizes from quite a few places. They tend to be used for servers and stuff, I have two at work :P
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-03-03 17:33 [#01097950]
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The idea does certainly intrigue me... the main thing would be getting a rack mountable flatscreen monitor of a decent size in there. I'd have to look into converting an existing one with mounting clips or something. Damn, thanks for giving me the idea, I'll have to look into this as a project for when I'm working and can afford to sink some cash into something like this. Might be handy for use as a Traktor machine for DJing too, come to think of it :)
Also, if it was in a flight case with removable front and back, I could put some meaty cooling fans in there and blow the air actually through the box.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-03-03 17:34 [#01097952]
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I know that, we had them at work- a Dell Poweredge server isn't quite as portable as I was hoping for ;)
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-03-03 17:41 [#01097956]
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What's wrong with a 1U or 2U case?
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-03-03 17:44 [#01097958]
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you've actually seen a 1U rackmount case that is meant for a computer? The smallest size I've ever seen was 2U I think....
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-03-03 17:52 [#01097963]
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The decent (15" plus) rack mountable monitors are 6U minimum. If I need to get an 8U rack to fit the monitor and have space underneath for other things, there's no need for the PC bit to be tiny.
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2004-03-03 21:42 [#01098061]
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Or you could run virtual machines so that if any virtual machine dies you can just keep running more virtual machines times infinity! :P
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Hypoidhal
from United States on 2004-03-03 21:59 [#01098064]
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I think you guys are going someplace...building your own is precicely what is needed. First off, you cant put any homemade/designed devices inbetween any of the connections. It is way too self contained. I couldent stand working with that crappy mouse poodle either. The only real advantage is that you dont need too much electronic/midi knowledge(which isnt an advantage) and basic portability, but anyone willing enough could make their own. stick a laptop compartment and all your midi controllers, one basic midi controller, and at the same time, add anything else in anypart you want of the whole thing.
and of coarse itll look alot better for a live show.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-03-04 12:09 [#01098812]
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But the CPU load on the physical machine would be through the roof- more than halving performance and the latency would be abysmal :)
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-03-04 12:14 [#01098818]
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the best part about laptops is the portability. you can't take some gigantic all-in-one with you to the coffee shop to work on your shit.
or set up this monster on your lap on a trans-continental flight on your world tour.
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