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offline euphonicfilter from illadelphia (United States) on 2004-03-03 06:15 [#01097098]
Points: 2443 Status: Addict



after recently (6 months ago almost to date) permanently
quiting smoking i've noticed more and more that a LOT of
people smoke

my question is for those on the other side of the pond - do
you really think that europeans smoke more than americans?

over here it's popular, but from my trips germans seemed to
enjoy a good smoke, and the uk-ers seemed the fags quite a
bit as well....

it's not healthy (but i'm not here to preach)

and it seems that money could be spent more wisely, like on,
say, 12 inches

what you think?


 

offline Jazembo from The Earth ball on 2004-03-03 06:24 [#01097099]
Points: 2788 Status: Regular



It is a big problem all over the world, I have only been to
Africa and Europe before and it seemed as popular there as
it does in the UK. It doesn't bother me when people smoke,
it is their choice and they can do what they like with their
money.

Saying that money could be spent on better things is an odd
comment, better for who and better in what way, if you spend
money on something you enjoy then I see no problem with
this. In your case you would like a penis enlargement, but
ask yourself 'Will it make me happy? .'



 

offline Co-existence from Bergen (Norway) on 2004-03-03 06:26 [#01097100]
Points: 3388 Status: Regular



I love to smoke and I don't think I'll ever give it up...
Well if I get seriously Ill I guess I'll consider it. I
think the dangers of smoking are exaggerated and that the
medical industry are involved in a conspiracy to get more
people to buy their products in order to quit smoking. I
also think that the anti smoking drugs are just as unhealthy
and addictive as nicotine.

Enjoy a good smoke but eat healthy and don't rot in front of
the telly all the time.

Why do you think all the oldest people in the world were all
smokers?


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-03 06:30 [#01097102]
Points: 7090 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag



"I think the dangers of smoking are exaggerated"

yeah right, you keep telling yourself that


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2004-03-03 06:33 [#01097103]
Points: 6650 Status: Lurker | Followup to Co-existence: #01097100



You're in an African river mate - da Nile!


 

offline Elhaym from Breaux Bridge (United States) on 2004-03-03 06:44 [#01097116]
Points: 163 Status: Regular



That is not your duty to diagnost him.


 

offline Co-existence from Bergen (Norway) on 2004-03-03 06:45 [#01097117]
Points: 3388 Status: Regular | Followup to pantalaimon: #01097102



No seriously! I think it is exaggerated. I am not saying
it's healthy, but I think it is exaggerated. Some of the
antismoking campains we have had in Norway lately is pure
propaganda!


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-03 06:45 [#01097118]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to Co-existence: #01097100



not all of them. quite a lot of them died a while before
they could become oldest persons in the world.


 

offline Elhaym from Breaux Bridge (United States) on 2004-03-03 06:46 [#01097119]
Points: 163 Status: Regular



I don't think its really a big deal.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-03 06:47 [#01097121]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to Co-existence: #01097117



yeah but you immediately became biased by starting to say
you love to smoke - then denouncing the dangers of smoking,
for which there is a LOT of evidence, kind of sounds like
trying to pull the wool over your own eyes.


 

offline Elhaym from Breaux Bridge (United States) on 2004-03-03 06:49 [#01097127]
Points: 163 Status: Regular



Anyway, I'm at school. buh-bye. I think I'm going to have
a smoke too.


 

offline Elhaym from Breaux Bridge (United States) on 2004-03-03 06:51 [#01097129]
Points: 163 Status: Regular



Taste the blade of stone cold steel. *Hums to Arch Enemies
"Exist to Exit"*



 

offline mc_303_beatz from Glasgow, Scotland on 2004-03-03 06:52 [#01097132]
Points: 3386 Status: Regular



Poor Asian countries have the worst smoking problems in the
world. Some guys smoke 100 a day.


 

offline Elhaym from Breaux Bridge (United States) on 2004-03-03 06:54 [#01097136]
Points: 163 Status: Regular



That's pretty bad. They must live a REALLY stressful life.
I wonder if they have been getting booty lately.


 

offline euphonicfilter from illadelphia (United States) on 2004-03-03 06:55 [#01097138]
Points: 2443 Status: Addict



Saying that money could be spent on better things is an odd

comment, better for who and better in what way, if you spend

money on something you enjoy then I see no problem with
this. In your case you would like a penis enlargement, but
ask yourself 'Will it make me happy? .'

- yeah i hear ya - makes sense - that idea of buying 12"s
instead is what helped me quit - well that and the cough /
lack of air intake i was dealing with

- i cant comment on other countries anti-smoking campaigns
cause i dont see me - i dont really care about the ones here
cause they didnt effect me - i quit cause i wanted to

- my main issue with smokers is how rude they are - when i
was a smoker i didnt huddle near a door subjecting any
passer by to an assault of cig. smoke - i instead tried to
be polite and only have myself inhale the smoke - but
apparently others do not feel they should be reasonible

- i was just asking if you think that smoking is more an
aspect of culture, i guess, then anything else - i think in
america, because we're all taught to fear everything (from
cancer, to the french), that smoking isn't really - and from
my travels it seems that europe had the more "who gives a
shit do what you want" atmosphere (my kinda place)

was just curious


 

offline mc_303_beatz from Glasgow, Scotland on 2004-03-03 07:00 [#01097146]
Points: 3386 Status: Regular | Followup to euphonicfilter: #01097138



In the UK there is much debate about outlawing smoking in
public places (bars, restaurants etc). So attitudes are
changing over here too. I seriously doubt it will happen
though. Tobacco adverstising has already been outlawed and
if a public ban takes place, the tobacco companies will
lobby the government to fuck. Just like how the tobacco
firms in the USA lobbied the US Government to take matches
and lighters off the ban list for flights, so that
passengers would smoke more before and after their flight.


 

offline Co-existence from Bergen (Norway) on 2004-03-03 07:02 [#01097147]
Points: 3388 Status: Regular | Followup to qrter: #01097121



Eh...I became biased?!? I'm honest enough to say that I love
smoking and that I think the dangers are exaggerated. I know
that it's not healty but the antismoking propaganda these
days are very much along the lines of "if you try cannabis
you will end up a heroine addict and die of an overdose".
It's stupid and simply not right! The antismoking movement
is so pestered with fanatism...


 

offline euphonicfilter from illadelphia (United States) on 2004-03-03 07:02 [#01097148]
Points: 2443 Status: Addict



i personally LOVE the smoking ban in public places

maine has had that in place in public buildings (minus bars
until the 1st of this year) - and it's great

when i go to NYC i dont have to hose myself off or burn my
clothes after a night out

it's NICE...

however i do think smokers have rights, as do non-smokers,
and they should be allowed to smoke - it's always a sticky
situation


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2004-03-03 07:04 [#01097149]
Points: 2916 Status: Lurker | Followup to Co-existence: #01097100



haha - im not coming down on either side of the fence here..

i used to smoke. i quit, for my own reasons.. because i
wanted to. and i dont make a point of preaching to anyone. i
still have a lot of friends who do.
but can i just say this : if you wait until youre "seriously
ill" to quit, it'll be too late.. :)


 

offline euphonicfilter from illadelphia (United States) on 2004-03-03 07:04 [#01097150]
Points: 2443 Status: Addict



yeah co-existence has a point - however you can't deny the
fact that your lungs are less healthy - unless of course
your one of those out of 1,000 who smoke

smoking fucks everything up from my experience, health
insurance is more expensive, your doctors take you less
seriously, and the ladies hate it (unless they smoke)

i think everyone should switch to weed, esp. in this country
where they're already high-strung enough


 

offline Co-existence from Bergen (Norway) on 2004-03-03 07:34 [#01097171]
Points: 3388 Status: Regular | Followup to acrid milk hall: #01097149



Check out this brilliant book:

Cigarettes are sublime by richard Klein

It has lots of interesting facts and thoughts about why we
smoke, the anti smoking movement and the history of smoking
in general. It's a darned entertaining read as well. The
author quit smoking after writing this book and writing it
was a part of that process


 

offline ziggomatic from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2004-03-03 07:39 [#01097173]
Points: 2523 Status: Lurker



used to smoke all the time in my 14-16 year range with my
best friend/ thought i'd never quit., like i'd die without
it. 2 years later and i don't need a cigarette at all.
they're really worthless....unless you're pretty good
stoned, then maybe one or two here and there is a good buzz,
but that's about it/.


 

offline ziggomatic from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2004-03-03 07:40 [#01097174]
Points: 2523 Status: Lurker



tobacco propaganda may be exaggerated.....but marijuana
prop. is FAR MORE exaggereated......


 

offline euphonicfilter from illadelphia (United States) on 2004-03-03 07:40 [#01097175]
Points: 2443 Status: Addict



cool, and i can get it used for $2

cant beat it

thanks


 

offline ziggomatic from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2004-03-03 07:40 [#01097176]
Points: 2523 Status: Lurker



propamaganda


 

offline euphonicfilter from illadelphia (United States) on 2004-03-03 07:42 [#01097180]
Points: 2443 Status: Addict



yeah marijuana prop is ridiculous like the ad's they run in
the states

i find them hilarious, i used to smoke weed, quit, only drug
'sides that ive done is mushrooms and they're natural
spores

so...


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2004-03-03 07:55 [#01097189]
Points: 2916 Status: Lurker



the problem with marjiana propaganda (on both sides of the
arguement) is that its always pretty factless.
the anti-weed campaigners arguments are based largely on
hypothesis.
and the pro-weed people are generally non-scientist
weed-smokers who've never had any problems with it
themselves.
both sides do themselves a big disservice.
ive smoked weed to varying degrees for years. when i smoked
a LOT (all day every day), i found i got pretty lethargic
about everything (which was ok at the time as it was a uni
summer holiday and i had nothing to do)..
right now its been quite a while.
ive never personally had a problem. but i have two friends
who've induced paranoid schizophrenia through their
drug-use. now, i know it doesnt happen to everyone (its
never happened to me).. some people are just born with a
propensity for mental illness. but you dont find out until
its too late.
the problem is, there arent any solid facts about these
cases around + how much of a propblem it actually is/isn't -
because no one's prepared to any proper research.
theyd rather just rumour-monger + mislead people.


 

offline avart from nomo' on 2004-03-03 07:57 [#01097192]
Points: 1764 Status: Lurker



"Why do you think all the oldest people in the world were
all
smokers?"

:D

those norwegians!


 

offline Co-existence from Bergen (Norway) on 2004-03-03 08:54 [#01097251]
Points: 3388 Status: Regular | Followup to avart: #01097192



:)


 

offline polygonwrong from United Kingdom on 2004-03-03 09:09 [#01097273]
Points: 132 Status: Addict



Ten year, man and boy! I keep stopping and starting over the
last few months and hacking crap out of my chest every
morning kinda tips the scales towards the unhealthy
suggestion. I think it's good that we have big daft warnings
on cigarette packets now in the UK. Whilst I find these
funny, they do yank a little chain in my head, telling me
to try and quit. My money would certainly be better spent on
something else.


 

offline polygonwrong from United Kingdom on 2004-03-03 09:10 [#01097274]
Points: 132 Status: Addict



Oh and hello board :)


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-03-03 09:11 [#01097275]
Points: 50073 Status: Moderator



hi


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-03-03 10:44 [#01097388]
Points: 22557 Status: Lurker



hahaha

at first i thought that 12"s comment was about using the
money on a male prostitute


 

offline afxNUMB from So.Flo on 2004-03-03 10:48 [#01097395]
Points: 7099 Status: Regular



The only time I really do enjoy a cigg is when I'm high. And
I think thats what wrong with cigg smoking, people depend on
it to make them feel better,calmer or even in the crowd.


 


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