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http://www-edlab.cs.umass.edu/~ahelblin/misc/mac.html This needs it's own topic. |
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i don't like mac. |
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whats this? there's no sound?? |
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Got a problem with macs? You've come to the right place! |
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I get sound... it's funny. |
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im going to try it at home...im o a shitty comp now... |
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Is it a mac? |
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omg thats histerical! yay for massachusettes and by buddies at umass! |
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ha ha! |
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heh heh |
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that film is so bullshit |
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hahahahhaha, ohh boy that was hilarious |
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i'm just waiting for one about PC's/Windows heh |
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in all fairness, windows deserves it just as much, but I'd be lying if I said that that wasn't a funny ass spoof on those annoying-gay mac commercials |
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oh yeah, no doubt about it - the ads are crap but what it's talking about is total bullshit........yeah right, shutting down your mac.........it just goes poof, it's gone in all my years of using Mac's that's NEVER happened to me, and I run Mac's to the extreme (as in multiple apps open, burning cd's AT THE SAME TIME AS SURFING THE NET, LISTENING TO MUSIC etc etc) and i've never had a problem. i've never come across a Windows PC that can burn a disc in the background whilst you're doing something else |
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Yeah, some op that stuff was definately bullshit.. but my guess is if the part about it crashing is founded at all in some form of truth, it's probably whatever application he was using's fault, and not the actual computer or O/S. |
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well no, because Mac OS X is UNIX - an application doesn't have direct acess to the kernel and it's memory, so an application can't halt the system (at least, that's what i've read/been told/seen/experienced myself)........the same can be acheived on PC's running Linux or some other *NIX based system i reckon that vid was made by bill gates heh |
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this was posted last year, around 8 mouths ago or so! hehe. you're late. |
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This ranting sounds a lot like he's describing MacOS < X where the normal rules of stable computing don't apply (tm) |
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Oh yeah? Well the rightmost gray checkers in your avatar are animated incorrectly, so there! I just thought it was funny. I haven't even used a mac very much aside from typing classes in high school. |
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Well, in my experience, my computer doesnt just lock up if it's not doing anything, like idling at the desktop. it would have to be from an illegal operation within a program or something to that effect that would make my computer crash... and that is the only reason my comp has ever crashed... So this would be an all software issue. Of course I'm a PC user so maybe it's different with macs. |
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yes it is different with Macs (well, it is with Mac OS X) because the kernel is acessable by other programs, and the memory is acessable too.....a program running in Windows can directly affect the kernel, which can (and most of the time does) halt the system But any UNIX based operating system does not succumb to this, because the kernel is segregated from the rest of the system |
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damn, i worded that wrong, what i meant was that it's different with mac's because with windows the kernel is acessable........blah blah blah |
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Windows NT, 2000 and XP do have kernel and application memory protection. It's not as effective as the Unix design for various reasons. For instance the Windows GUI code resides in kernel space. That sacrifices speed for stability and security. |
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er, that should read sacrifices stability and security for speed Doesn't make much sense otherwise. |
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yeah i know that the NT based systems are more stable, and i do admit that those systems seem to be the more stable of all the micro$haft ones, but i still have problems with Windows all the time the PC architecture on the other hand is a good system - if you have the right OS on it....that's the problem....PC's have SOOOOOOOO many configurations, this sound card, that CPU, this that the other......it's not standardised, and because of that Windows (and other operating systems for PC) have to support a VERY WIDE RANGE of hardware, and obviously somethings gonna go wrong, whereas Apple build machines to spec....they test their software on them religiously to make sure it's gonna work if Microsft took the same road as Apple, and distributed hardware/software configurations that were tested to work, and work well, they'd be VERY stable but alas, they chose X-Box they'll learn |
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hahaha, didn't sound all that worse from earlier versions of windows which shall go un-named. |
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lol, don't you mean ALL versions? |
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"if Microsft took the same road as Apple, and distributed hardware/software configurations that were tested to work, and work well, they'd be VERY stable" I'd disagree. I think there are still some pretty serious design issues in Windows itself. Would it be more stable? Yes - but probably not very stable. I'd still prefer having a large selection of commodity components to choose from. Generally you get what you pay for but at least you are not subject to sometimes outrageous Apple tax. There's no free lunch. |
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I was quite happy with my Atari ST, I'd still go back to using it if I could get the damn floppy reader working (and if i could browse xlt!) . So far XP is the most stable os i have encountered, but I do not like how much disk space and memory it uses up. |
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well, ok maybe you're right about Windows not beaing THAT stable, lol :) but i disagree with the "Apple Tax" as you put it (if you are indeed referring to price of hardware) You can pick up a G4 iBook, of decent specification for £850. £850 that's a bargain......the price of Apple hardware has fallen SO much since the release of the iMac in 1998 (i think it was 98, might hae been 97, but i'm sure it was 98) anyways i digress. Macintosh computers have come down in price a lot, and they keep coming down. |
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i am GONNA get my hands on an Atari STe 1040 with 4MB RAM again......!!!!!!!!!!!! i HAVE TO! |
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Fuck yeh!!! Did you own one before then? I've still got over 300 games but no way to play them :( , elite was my all time favourite, closely followed by carrier command, operation wolf, out run....) |
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i had hold of one for about a week :( long story fucking great machines, MIDI timing is ROCK SOLID ;) |
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Bah, let the PC users think and believe what they want - I know my four macs have and will continue to serve me well... |
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yeah, most of the aversion towards macs is totally illfounded... they are good computers and I have no problem using them even though I've always been a PC guy and still prefer the way windows does things :) |
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I think the real reason more people here don't own macs is simple: NO EASY ACCESS TO PIRATED SOFTWARE! Seriously, if you were going to buy legal copies of all music software you used, you'd almost certainly go for a Mac. If however, it's a toss up between £1000 PC & free software or a £1200 mac and £1200 of legit software, most people will go for the former. Higher latency, not having supercollider and the hassle of cracks are all irritations, but for most of us, not worth the additional cost of "going mac". Don't get me wrong, I've got a G3 powerbook, I just very rarely use it. |
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macs suck. we use them at work and they crash constantly. I DEMAND A RIGHT MOUSE BUTTON! |
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if I was going to pay for software (which I will at some point, just cant afford it now =/), I'd definately get a Mac... but I can't afford one of them right now either so I guess I'm stuck with my PC |
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sorry, but there is a LOT of pirated software and serial numbers available for Mac not that i have experience of this stuff *ahem* |
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1) you either mustn't be doing something right, or you're running OS 9 or earlier 2) right mouse buttons are not necessary, and did you know that if you plug a multiple button USB mouse in, you get a contextual menu!!! just like when you ctrl+click |
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Compared to PCs it's a lot harder to get a full suite of sequencers and softsynths though... If I manage/bother to get a CD drive for my G3, I may well be in touch ;-) |
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mac's don't have mspaint and therefore are inferior. |
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true, but it's getting more and more easy to get stuff if ever you need any Mac help (software or hardware, but mainly software related) just give me a shout.........i think i've got my email in my profile, if not i'll enable it ;) |
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oh yeah, damnit you wouldn't be able to do those cool AV's you have right? Damn, i guess us Mac users will have to make do with Adobe Photoshop (the application that is natively MAC BASED, has and always will be) ;) heh |
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hold on.......why doesn't your G3 have a CD drive?? *confused* |
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sure mac has adobe photoshop. big whoop. question is, what software do macs have that PC's DON'T? |
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MOTU Performer =( |
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errr Mac OS X, Amazing Slow Downer, iPulse, MOTU Performer (as said by zephyr) Logic is now Apple owned (and therefore only for Apple hardware i assume) |
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