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offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-02-19 13:22 [#01080696]
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i would assume that comes from the way "posh" sounding
accented people from england said the word "ass"

because they have a tendency to elongated pronounciation of
a's, it turned out as sounding like

arse

i would assume so anyways, logically thinking


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-02-19 13:22 [#01080697]
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see my post above

^


 

offline JibberJabber from United States on 2004-02-19 13:23 [#01080698]
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Bloddy, Soddin, Wanker!


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-02-19 13:23 [#01080699]
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yeah, kind of like how some people thought 'autechre' was to
be pronounced 'ortekker' after hearing sean and rob
pronounce it with their accents.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-02-19 13:25 [#01080701]
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well you see, in that case it IS pronounced like that,
because that is a name

names have different pronounciation propertys than normal
words

take my handle for instance

i made the word up (just like autechre made their name up)

i pronounce it

oss-sil-ick

so that's how it's pronounced because i made that word

you see?


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-02-19 13:27 [#01080702]
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i pronounce your handle as

map-a-taz-ee

that might be wrong

you might pronounce it different
whatever you pronounce it as is how it's pronounced because
you made it up

(i'm assuming you made it up anyways)


 

offline Intruder from Chicago (United States) on 2004-02-19 13:27 [#01080703]
Points: 581 Status: Lurker



tom-ay-tow, tom-ah-tow is understandable, arse is just
weird. ever hear older white guys say "wash"?
they say warsh. same shit i guess.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-02-19 13:28 [#01080704]
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yeah, that's it

it's just a trend in how people spoke, and it's just not
been eradicated over the years


 

offline Intruder from Chicago (United States) on 2004-02-19 13:29 [#01080706]
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dont forget about me, mine is pronounced PI-mp-mas-tah.


 

offline JibberJabber from United States on 2004-02-19 13:30 [#01080707]
Points: 8 Status: Regular



Different strokes for different folks eh?


 

offline JibberJabber from United States on 2004-02-19 13:30 [#01080711]
Points: 8 Status: Regular



I say toe-may-toe and you say toe-mo-toe


 

offline Intruder from Chicago (United States) on 2004-02-19 13:30 [#01080712]
Points: 581 Status: Lurker



Hey horsie, you still out there?

ready to apologiize?


 

offline Intruder from Chicago (United States) on 2004-02-19 13:31 [#01080714]
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who the hell says toe-mo-toe?


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-02-19 13:31 [#01080716]
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btw, welcome to xltronic

just make sure you don't piss anyone off on here, else hell
will rain down on you

heh

j/k

:)


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-02-19 13:33 [#01080718]
Points: 14291 Status: Lurker



TOE-mә-TOE


 

offline Intruder from Chicago (United States) on 2004-02-19 13:33 [#01080720]
Points: 581 Status: Lurker



nah. we're all good for the most part.


 

offline JibberJabber from United States on 2004-02-19 13:34 [#01080723]
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[quote] who the hell says toe-mo-toe?
[/quote]

The english were saying it last time I heard but that era
may be over with.

And thanks for the welcome! As for pissing people off? I
hardly ever do if I do it's by accident.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-02-19 13:34 [#01080724]
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i would have said that i pronounce it

toe-maa-toe (just to accentuate the longer a sound)

but now i'm being picky
;)


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-02-19 13:35 [#01080725]
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sorry to be picky again, but no-one here says

tomoto

which is how you phonetically wrote the word tomato


 

offline Intruder from Chicago (United States) on 2004-02-19 13:36 [#01080727]
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hmpf. the MOE is fucking me up.


 

offline JibberJabber from United States on 2004-02-19 13:36 [#01080728]
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So exactly how or why did we (Americans) get degraded to
being illiterate, fat and lazy bastards?


 

offline Intruder from Chicago (United States) on 2004-02-19 13:37 [#01080729]
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yup. :p


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-02-19 13:37 [#01080730]
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what moe?

btw as a tip, you see the red numbers next to the date on
someones post?

if you wanna reply to a particulat post, click on those
numbers and then start typing in the edit box



 

offline JibberJabber from United States on 2004-02-19 13:38 [#01080731]
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okay mah! toe-mah-toe! Cut me some slack I'm at work tryin
not to get on the internet by my ogre boss!


 

offline Intruder from Chicago (United States) on 2004-02-19 13:39 [#01080732]
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i know that mister man.
sorry, i dont know why i keep typing moe. i mean mo.


 

offline JibberJabber from United States on 2004-02-19 13:39 [#01080733]
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Okay I clicked your #. Now what happens?


 

offline Intruder from Chicago (United States) on 2004-02-19 13:40 [#01080734]
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ogre's your boss?


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-02-19 13:41 [#01080735]
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i am only posting a theory, but i would guess that the
reason that there are phonetic differences in our
pronounciations is that most of the people who migrated into
america (in the beginnings) would have been of a poorer
class (wanting a better life in the new land) and would have
come from a background where they didn't care how they
pronounced stuff, just as long as they got the message
across

here's an example of a modern day usage of "lazy speaking"

there is an area in the uk called the north. now many people
here like to use t' instead of the or to (or both in some
cases)

example

i'm going t' shops okay?

instead of i'm going to the shops


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-19 14:26 [#01080751]
Points: 21423 Status: Regular



Note that "I could care less" is a commonly used phrase.
Therefore it is almost certain that people use it because of
imitation. Using this phrase is a short cut from the normal
process of using thought to form lexically sound sentences
by constituent words one by one. Either the phrase started
out as "I couldn't..." and then the mutation occured ("I
could...") and was successful replicating in peoples minds
(imitated). Or the first person who started it said it wrong
the first time and it caught on regardless of it's lexical
flaw. Perhaps this flaw was not noticable enough to prevent
it being imitated in other people's vocal chords or writing.
I'd wager that the (incorrect) phrase started out on some tv
show or movie somewhere. The mass broadcasting would make it
replicate well.


 

offline Q4Z2X on 2004-02-19 14:33 [#01080755]
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i was going to say how much i also hate when people say this
phrase.
but now this thread has been ruined.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2004-02-19 14:34 [#01080756]
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Intruder's rreally dumb.


 

offline afxNUMB from So.Flo on 2004-02-19 14:48 [#01080769]
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I could care less about this thread :D


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-02-19 16:11 [#01080916]
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"so when some non speaking ass euro
decides he wants to bad mouth my shit"

This is precisely the sort of thing we're talking about :D

On a serious note, poor communication can have serious
consequences... Poorly written wills and contracts are a
legal minefield and need I mention the charge of the light
brigade?


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2004-02-19 16:11 [#01080919]
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THIS THRREAD IS OF VALUE


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-19 17:13 [#01080967]
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there was some white guy who used to live in africa (but now
in america) awhile back who was trying to get some sort of
"african american" scholarship or something because the
written fine print wasn't very specific about what was meant
by african american.


 

offline Dozier from United States on 2004-02-19 17:57 [#01081006]
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i was really going to reply with something worthwhile, but
by the time i got to the end of the thread i realized how
stupid it all was.



 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-19 17:59 [#01081009]
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(pardon for the late response, I just awoke from a 4 hour
nap)

I know, I was actually referring to the quote "what a stupid
country" but I've forgiven you so all is well.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-02-19 18:11 [#01081029]
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Ah yes, polictical correctness, the enemy of good English...
see, if they'd been able to say "black american" there'd be
no confusion.

One that really does my nut is when someone refers to "he or
she" when the person is unknown. It's "he". It looks stupid
when you have text like this:

He or she may apply for this job because he or she has an
interest in care.

You get some fantastic "politically correct" grammar that
you can't begin to parse logically. I've actually seen,
"We are an equal opportunities employer. We especially
welcome applications from women and ethnic minorities."

What, you're so equal you make a distincition? Also, the
second sentence suggests that ethnic minorites are all male
(or genderless).

Worst of all is when they jump between "he" and "she" from
page to page. I've seen this in a game manual and I
genuinely thought it was using he and she to distinguish
between two people. Pretty confusing as it was a one player
game.


 

offline Dozier from United States on 2004-02-19 18:14 [#01081038]
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i'm wit choo.



 

offline corrupted-girl on 2004-02-19 18:19 [#01081045]
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...but what about the coin man!?!??!!?


 

offline Dozier from United States on 2004-02-19 18:28 [#01081063]
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yeah, he's cool. i just don't know how your body can handle
that. they had to completely remove his stomach.
just goes to show you...you can't do that.


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2004-02-19 18:30 [#01081073]
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yes , excatly.

i wish he was here so i could talk to him.


 

offline Dozier from United States on 2004-02-19 18:31 [#01081076]
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what would you say?


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2004-02-19 18:33 [#01081081]
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i would just say 'how are things?' im sure he'd be a lot
more interesting then the ol' folks round here... i mean..
he has to be.


 

offline Dozier from United States on 2004-02-19 18:35 [#01081089]
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you would think. heh. you have to wonder what else might be
wrong with him, though. i mean, was he otherwise a normal
person? that'd be weird.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-19 18:41 [#01081102]
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I could have sworn that a long while back I came across a
real word that was meant to be a substitute for "he or she".
The definition was something like "noun reffering to someone
when the gender is unknown". I wish I remember what it was.

Richard dawkins, in the forward of the selfish gene,
dedicated a good couple of paragraphs to the problem of
using he or she when writing. Also susan blackmore (who read
dawkins and thus was triggered by the same idea) proposed
that the dominant use of "he" when referring to unknown
genders in conventional writing historically was a meme that
eventually, after sooo many times seeing it might truly
affect girls' opinions of themselves and their gender by the
thought being replicated in their head so frequently.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-19 18:50 [#01081122]
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I propose "hermaphrodite" as the new gender unspecific word,
heh heh. Or "it". Either of these are always good to refer
to qrter of course.


 

offline Doomed Puppy from on and off and on and off and on 2004-02-19 18:50 [#01081124]
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Languages change because the meaning and use of words and
phrases changes in different dialects leading to new
languages. The details are sorted until something new
arrives. This is a part of cultural evolution.


 

offline Doomed Puppy from on and off and on and off and on 2004-02-19 18:52 [#01081126]
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Hermaphrodite is the living thing that has both sexual
organs. Unless ofcourse you were joking.


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2004-02-19 18:56 [#01081133]
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He was not. Stop being so fucking insulting.


 


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