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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-18 17:17 [#01079404]
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"Astronomers claim they have observed a "super-massive" b...
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-02-18 17:22 [#01079409]
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that was cool, i was reading that earlier on. we're all gonna die now.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-02-18 17:23 [#01079410]
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i don't care...it's a shitty life anyway.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-18 17:28 [#01079415]
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just doing my civic duty for the people of xlt. you can either start praying, get your provisions in + live in the basement, or sit back and smile wryly while all around you fall apart..
..maybe
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-18 17:46 [#01079444]
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i'm scared now. thats the end for all of us if it comes over here...
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-18 17:49 [#01079446]
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dont worry, i'll look after you bob. hows things at the bomb? i was down there the other weekend for that charity night by the way.
saw derren. but he didnt see me.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-02-18 18:09 [#01079462]
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Space scares the shit out of me. Whether it be comets/asteroids, the sun expanding/exploding, black holes, ozone layers... fuck. We're so puny and weak. Totally powerless. Space can bum rush us at its leisure.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-18 18:11 [#01079464]
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wish id never started this thread now.. i just seem to be upsetting people.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-02-18 18:20 [#01079473]
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not me! I look foward to watching a black hole consuming things. Think of how awesome and beautiful it would be to witness a black hole slowly consume earth! HOLY SHIT!
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AlfredPMcLovely
from the country that will end up d (Turkmenistan) on 2004-02-18 18:22 [#01079476]
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I'm pretty sure somewhere someone is hard at work trying to incorporate a black hole with goatc.ex
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wimp
on 2004-02-18 18:25 [#01079482]
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Awesome. Keep up the posts like this, Acrid Milk Hall. Absolutely astonishing.
The Universe just depresses me. The insignifance of being. The vastness of everything. The futility of living.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-18 18:29 [#01079486]
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if you insist..
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-02-18 18:30 [#01079490]
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I seriously wonder why I should bother going to work tomorrow. I'm nothing. My work is useless.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-18 18:33 [#01079494]
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relish the futility of it all, bask in the glow of the universe which dwarfs you + enjoy life for the beauty of the transient detail.
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wimp
on 2004-02-18 18:37 [#01079499]
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Awesome, AMH! God that's amazing.
Ophecks: My philosophy on living, which I suppose is my "meaning of life" is simply to live. That's all we can really do. Live, breathe, laugh, suffer. All that good stuff that makes being alive such a kaleidoscope of ranging experiences.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-02-18 18:45 [#01079506]
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it's too bad there's no video of what happened
i wish i were an astronomer
you get to see cool shit
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-02-18 19:14 [#01079534]
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"This unlucky star just wandered into the wrong neighbourhood"
Dr Stefanie Komossa, Max Planck Institute (great name for an astronomer)
maybe it's very lucky now; black holes can bring you to the other side of the galaxy according to starwars.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-02-18 21:28 [#01079616]
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Uh, event horison.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-02-18 21:31 [#01079619]
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Do they see this stuff real time? I know the stars we see with our eyes are snapshots of a time millions of years ago. Because of the speed at which light travels.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-02-18 21:38 [#01079623]
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i dunno i figure "observed" means "we saw that shit"
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-02-18 21:39 [#01079624]
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"this whole and amazing expanding UNiverse"
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-18 22:01 [#01079643]
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I think they actually do see them real time, because if you think about it, all light travels at the same speed, so the light from events like this start traveling towards us the instant they happen individually.. did that make sense?
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-18 22:14 [#01079657]
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by the way, both of those links are so fucking cool.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-18 22:15 [#01079659]
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I've always been hugely interested in astronomy... in my astronomy class on tuesday we were actually discussing the tendency of gravity to pull things from both directions, like a blimp shape kind of.. you can see it in the pic of the blackhole.. I've printed these out to show to my professor tomorrow to see if she's gotten to see that stuff yet =)
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wimp
on 2004-02-18 22:58 [#01079696]
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Light has a speed. The sun's light takes a few hours to reach the earth.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-19 04:13 [#01079989]
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zephyr twin | they see them long after theyve happened (depending on how near they are to earth). the light from the stars you see at night is impossibly old. as wimp said, light has a speed. but i was under the impression that the sunlight takes 8.4 minutes to travel the 93
million miles to earth..? if we were far enough away for it to take hours, things would be a lot colder here.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-02-19 04:14 [#01079990]
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Half of you faggots want someone to rip your black hole apart.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-19 04:29 [#01080012]
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thought id check these as my curiosity has been roused by the last few posts:
the nearest star to earth (other than the sun) is 4.3 light years away. so the light we see from that every night is already almost four+a half years old.
the distance to the galaxy M87 in the virgo cluster is 50 million light years. so the light we see from stars located there was being emitted at the same time as the first recognised primates had begun to evolve.
the distance to most distant object seen in the universe is about 18 billion light years (18 x 10^9 light years) which takes us right back to the beginnings of the universe, according to scientists.
i seem to remember reading this article once along the lines that the more powerful an interstellar telescope was, the further out it could look into the universe (ie.without having to wait for the light to reach earth itself), the further back it was looking in history. theoretically time travel. or something along those lines which got a lot of men locked away in labs far from their wives all excited about.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-19 04:30 [#01080015]
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hahahaha our 2 last posts could not be more opposite in theme/content.
id got so far as to say polar. i actually winced when i read yours. what a horrible thought..
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-02-19 04:31 [#01080016]
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the fact that light from a star as old as the big bang reaches earth totally disproves the big bang theory.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-02-19 04:32 [#01080017]
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oh, not again!
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-19 04:33 [#01080018]
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thats what i thought but im only going on what i read.. maybe those outer limits are moving reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally slowly..?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-02-19 04:34 [#01080020]
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or really fast?
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-19 04:41 [#01080024]
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youre the scientist mate. not me. :)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-02-19 04:43 [#01080026]
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that, I surely am. i've got seven doctoral degrees in equational microlensing in quasar clouds, and a doctoral degree in doctoring of the doctrines set forth by the doctoral-degree-students of the corporeal realm.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-19 04:44 [#01080027]
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Dr. Unken Mastah?
It makes sense now.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-19 04:45 [#01080029]
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but you don't like to brag, right? in fact youre almost embarassed to bring it up.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-02-19 04:47 [#01080033]
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yes. it took me seven years to be able to tell people i won all the nobel-prices, and that Margaret Thatcher called me the greatest fuck ever.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-19 06:42 [#01080092]
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yep, I'm aware of all that, but what I think he was asking is that, those events happened in real time however long ago it was (millions and millions of years probably), but since they happened in real time all those years ago, does that mean that when the light finally does reach us, will we still see the event in real time? And to this my answer was yes :)
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ATSoLe
from NYC (United States) on 2004-02-19 07:33 [#01080126]
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I love shit like this because science is fascinating, but I hate articles that don't point you towards any more in-depth reading. I think the real questions are: How long did it take to rip apart that star? How much of it could we actually "see"? Did we observe and record all of this event, or did they only start observing it more closely after shit started getting crazy? Is it essentially a pinpoint in the sky in the center of a galaxy that flared up x-ray activity all of a sudden? Is there anything on the other wavelengths besides x-ray to see? How do they know that the star was stretched? Is that part theoretical or observed, oops, wait let me go back and read that article again.... btw that diamond white dwarf is seriously cool.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-19 09:55 [#01080337]
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I'm pretty sure they began observing it once shit started to get crazy... the likelihood that they were actually just staring that this particular star for god knows how long before this happened is pretty low.. I have a feeling that once we started picking up the x-ray emissions, we started to pay attention. as for the star being stretched, it is a basic property of gravity.. all objects with enough mass to assert their gravity on other objects are stretching them... For example, the moon is actually stretching on the earth but it is manifested as the tides, because the stretching is much more apparent on water (which is far more volatile than rock).
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2004-02-19 09:58 [#01080344]
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nice! yeah i was watching this on TV this morning. fascinating.
reminded me of that old move "black hole"
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-19 10:00 [#01080351]
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you like it in the black hole.
OOOOOOH!
j/k =p
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2004-02-19 10:03 [#01080356]
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ROFL.
mmm black hole sandwhich
;þ
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-19 11:03 [#01080483]
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hahah thats a good tongue face
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-19 17:55 [#01081002]
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nice to see that science lost out to innuendo in the end. :)
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big
from lsg on 2004-02-19 18:09 [#01081026]
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bet "þ" is an scientific significant though..
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-02-19 18:12 [#01081034]
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you're right, its stands for þollocks we're all gonna die
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-19 18:16 [#01081042]
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how do you pronounce that?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-02-19 18:18 [#01081044]
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something like AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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