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Q: What's black and blue and doesn't like sex? A: The little boy in the trunk of my car. |
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She had entered my world, umber and black Humberland, with rash curiosity; she surveyed it with a shrug of amused distaste; and it seemed to me now that she was ready to turn away from it with something akin to plain repulsion. Never did she vibrate under my touch, and a strident 'what d'you think you are doing?' was all I got for my pains. |
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i can't believe i haven't mad some sarcastic and slightly/frighteningly autobiographical comment about this |
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Yeah, it is a bit out of character, isn't it? Better get on to it pronto! |
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"I try not to think of these things while luring girls into my van with promises of candy." |
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that joke was wrong funkmaster it was Q: whats black and blue and hates getting fucked? A: A rape victim anyways.... child porn is also people age of 17 on tape, is that wrong?.. I dunno.. i dont think so, not if they want to do it. its really just up to people, ..... as long as no one is getting hurt or sexually abused its ok... and yeah im not talking about those 6 year olds nude and stuff, thats just someones sick mind.. mental disorder? i dunno.. probably not, .... there are billions of us on this planet, somehow sometimes someone had to come out a bit fucked up./ |
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the things is. When more than 10% of the population does it, they'll say it's natural and you're born that way. Like the Romans. |
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i wouldn't really say that it isn't harmful just because of the potential that's there...you know how people are, soon looking through a telescope or whatever isn't going to be enough and he's going to have to get closer and closer and before long, he's not satisfied with anything short of....sex, whatever it is. |
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It depends on where your view of peadophilia extends to. For example in some places 14 is the legal age of consentual sex, others it's 16, others it's 18 and so on. Anything under the legally set limit is considered unlawful sex with a minor and you would be a child sex offender. The reason it will never get discussed openly in public is because far more people experience feelings at some point than admit it, and they are scared that people will accuse them. Same as with homosexuality. It is not wrong to have the feelings, because you can't control that...it would be wrong to act on those feelings though. |
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I bet there are very few straight lads who have saw a 13 or 14 girl in school uniform and not thought that she looks a it tasty in a sexual way. Or maybe I am just fucked up in the head :D |
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there's good and bad people and very evil people, Sigmund Freud would say: the have a totaly fucked up (or no) super-ego |
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the= they (the evil people) |
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We all have perversions and such in our minds; things we recognize as abnormal ideas and desires. It's when someone brings that perversion into reality that makes them a 'pervert'. And child pornography (like all pornography, and don't get me wrong, I'm down with the porno) gives the viewer the impression that what's being displayed is normal and okay. Pornography is a weird thing. It allows someone to passively engage in an act, which, in the case of child pornography, they would be arrested for had they physically aided the act. And yes, when you watch porno, you are advocating the behavior displayed on the screen. Ultimately it comes down to (whether pedophiles like it or not) pedophilia is not socially acceptable, just like beastiality and whatnot. Sure, some people may get off on it, but in our current "civilised" society, that just won't fly. |
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I think it's all very simple people do not have a choice in what htey find aestheticly attractive, they look at something and immediately like it or not, people can't decide this, it just happens, I don't think that someone who find extremely young kids attraactive has a mental disorder, I think it's perfectly natural however actually DOING it is another story, I don't think that sexual activity, especially forced, is going to do any good to a kid, I think it's safe to assume that it will fuck them up for life, and anyone that is willing to do this to a kid is pure fucking evil, but I think collecting images and video's of such things is perfectly fine, as long as it just stays a "fantasy" they can have as much kiddy bootie material as they want, but like I said, they don't have a choice on whether they like it or not,... |
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Don't be daft...by collecting videos and stuff you are fueling the trade...and the fact of the matter is that people become desensitised to things after time and need something that goes a bit further to get the same fix...just like drugs. This in turn means there are people who will abuse more kids to keep up with demand. It does happen...just look at how people who get kicks out of porn end up going more and more into what would be considered a "fetish" area in their choice of viewing. |
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but they don't ahve a choice on whether they like it or not, and why should they be any less preveleged to view what they like than us "normal" people |
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Lets say I liked to view your mum being raped...do you think it is OK for someone to go and film themselves raping her just for my pleasure? Taking advantage of those who cannot defend themselves is completely wrong. |
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if you yourself instagated the whole thing (ie payed someone to do it) than it is as bad as doing it yourself, |
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I agree with Lee. All porn subjects are exploited for money. The difference with kiddy porn is that children are involved, children who have no say in what is happening to them. The people that make and fund these videos are the most inhumane subspecies on the planet. They take peoples childhoods away to fulfill their selfish fantasy. Hardly harmless is it? |
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Yeah, that fucks a child up permanently, no exceptions. |
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Let's say you have a little brother or sister. And they were around at your parents friends house. And one of your parents friends took photographs of them playing naked (not even in a particularly explicit manner), and these photos where put on the internet for men to wank off over...you have no problem with that? |
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yes, that would be horrible, I still think that "viewing" is entirely differnt to "doing" even though at some point the "doing" has to occur, I think it is sick, but I don't think viewing it is sick, I don't get how anyone could like such things myself, but why should that mean it's wrong? |
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But viewing can only be done after the "doing" has occured, which makes the viewer part of the problem. Even regular porn makes me feel so fucking sad sometimes, when you look into the eyes of the teenage girls and all you can see is fear or pain. How anyone could find that erotic is beyond me. |
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people don't exactly "choose" waht they find erotic, do they? |
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Say you find murder erotic, does that make murder okay or any more acceptable? |
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But porno does exist where all participants are consensual and enjoying the act. Take Jenna Jameson for example, or the infamous Pam & Tommy video, or better yet, the Paris Hilton vid. All three of these are very frequent downloads, and in all cases the participants are having a blast and there's nothing wrong with that. It just so happens that a lot of people (straight men) get off on insulting and degrading women. Take a gander into your local porno shop, note how the Straight Men sections are riddled with titles such as "White Trash Whore" or "Back Door Slut". These types of films are more a product of society and the suppression of woman sexuality. Some guys would rather see an attractive woman as a "meathole" rather than a woman. And that's fucked up, but it's even more fucked up when people start viewing children as..... God, don't even want to think about that. |
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if I were to compare it ot music, imagine you like the "on" ep but in order to make the "on" ep, RDJ had to molest some youngun for some reason, would you then not enjoy the music? |
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it's not acceptable, still,, some people download gory images and things,... it doesn't make them a killer does it? |
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But gory images are more often than not the product of unforseen and unfortunate circumstances. |
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Ohhh kids... oooooooooohhhhhhh KIDS! Mmm MMM! I love that vsnares sample! |
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Refund: We all have perversions and such in our minds; things we recognize as abnormal ideas and desires. It's when someone brings that perversion into reality that makes them a 'pervert'. In watching the child pornography you are participating in the production of the child pornography. Music Example: But making music is harmless, there are no victims when Richard D. James writes a song. There are no raped children. Gory Images: If someone buys a video of a man killing another man for the purpose of selling the video, I believe that that makes that person pretty damn close to the murder. These child pornographic images aren't a happenchance sort of deal, like a film of some getting their head chopped off, these videos are made for the purpose of FILMING CHILD ABUSE AND MOLESTATION. |
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Ill bet aaron funk has a thing for kids. either that or his mommy didnt give him enough love. or maybe his daddy too much... |
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shit. you guys talking about vsnares already? i guess its obvious i didnt read any of this thread after the first page eh? |
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"Music Example: But making music is harmless, there are no victims when Richard D. James writes a song. There are no raped children." but if there was, would you not enjoy the song? |
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Vsnares loves that shockcore. I'm not convinced he's demented, just think he really enjoys convincing people he is. |
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Refund: If the production of the song "On" did somehow involve the raping of children, if RDJ could not write the song unless he was molesting his niece, then I probably wouldn't be feeling the song too much. Just in the same way I could never get into Deep Throat (the original movie) knowing that the girl was forced at gun-point to go through with some scenes. If Squarepusher had to rape a dog in order to write Ultravisitor, I would most definitely not be so fond of "Everyday I Love". |
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Refund: If the production of the song "On" did somehow involve the raping of children, if RDJ could not write the song unless he was molesting his niece, then I probably wouldn't be feeling the song too much but it wouldn't change the song any would it? it'd still be the same song with the same aesthetic value, I'm trying to say that "enjoying a song you like is alright" if these sort of images and things were %100 accurately and authenticly replicated though video graphics, would that htne make it alright? |
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[edit] if these sort of images and things were %100 accurately and authenticly replicated though video graphics, would that htne make it alright to view them,... as there has been no harm done in the first place,. I tihnk so, and because I beleive that people can't choose what there instincts tell them they like, I think it'd be perfectly fine, and "ideal" for people that have been given such an unfortunate fetish to get some release, because otherwise they could get it no other way, |
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Yes, it would change my perception of the song. I would know that the song is about child molestation, which I do not agree with, hence, I would probably grow to dislike and detest the music. In the same sense that I can watch porno in which a guy is getting head and be okay with it, whereas, if I were to watch Deep Throat I could not enjoy it. "%100 accurately and authenticly replicated" Don't follow you. I don't believe any hypothetical situation could excuse the production of child pornography. Sure, people can get off on child pornography, but this doesn't make it's production OK. Just because some likes seeing people murdered doesn't mean it's OK to murder someone. I keep trying to drill in that I accept that people are attracted to children, that pedophilia exists, but this does not excuse this sort of behavior. I am discussing the prevalence of child pornography in society and how it is not OK. In otherwords, it is not socially acceptible. Someone may enjoy kidnapping children and eating them. Sure, they can't help that they like kidnapping and eating children, but they must understand that such behaviour is absolutely inappropriate and unacceptible. |
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"%100 accurately and authenticly replicated" Don't follow you. - thats where the problem lies read it again. " if these sort of images and things were %100 accurately and authenticly replicated though video graphics, would that htne make it alright to view them,... as there has been no harm done in the first place,. " |
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I don't want to get into an argument over this, which I can sorta feel coming on,.. I think I have explained my point well enough now anyway love and peace |
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I'm assuming the scenario in which you are trying to convey is something along the lines of, say, a drawing of child abuse. Much Japanese manga features scenes of child molestation and abuse. Now, these are just drawings, however, these drawings promote an atmosphere in which child molestation and abuse are okay, which is not okay. Though the production of these materials in no way directly harms children, indirectly the consequences can be terrible. What I'm saying is that the production and viewing of said materials, be they manga, videos, or pictures creates an atmosphere in which the producer/viewer find this behaviour to be okay. People get off on child pornography, but this doesn't make it's production OK. Hence, in order for this "release" to take place, a crime must be commited and a life must be ruined. If this is what you deem necessary in order for a pedophile to achieve "release", I recommend that you look into alternative therapy for pedophiles. And yes, pedophiles need therapy if they cannot accept the laws of our society, which protect the citizens of society. It is not okay to put a life in jeopardy in order for a pedophile to feel some sort of "release". |
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I'm just saying I think actually molesting a child is fucking horrible, but people can't control what they like, you either like it or you don't, there's no choice so if there was a way in which noone got hurt, I think it is fine for people to indulge in such things, I think it is possible to be "into" child porn but still think that doing it is just plain fucking wrong |
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*listens to On. :O |
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why? why not? i'm serrious. it's fucked up, but it's like anything. |
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If the kid wants it, let the kid have it. |
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it's verry verry wrrong howeverr and people who do rrape a child (it's always rrape), should have theirr penis cut off. i stand by that. |
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Why? they could still fist them. |
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virginpusher touches little boys. |
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and theirr hands and feet and head. fuck it, i'd rreduce them to a torrso. |
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