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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2004-02-18 01:54 [#01078190]
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Double Figure is really good after some listens...I find tracks like Zamami, Ooh Be Do, Light Rain and Ti Born very emotional and accelerating.
Thanks to everyone that said I should check them out. Think I'm going for Not For Threes next.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-02-18 01:57 [#01078194]
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I think you are confusing Plaid with a yeast infection.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-02-18 03:10 [#01078223]
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it's the other way around with me...i used to like them a lot, these days i rarely listen to them...
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2004-02-18 03:17 [#01078227]
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i only think spokes is ok, i own not for threes and p-brane as well but never listen to'em anymore
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-02-18 03:37 [#01078249]
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don't make things grow on you! if you don't like it instantly, it's shit!
I hate when people are all "so, i started hanging out with these people who listened to this music, and at first, I thought it was shit, but it really grows on you"
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-02-18 03:44 [#01078262]
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When stuff grows on you, it is because it becomes familiar, not that you particularly like it.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-02-18 03:46 [#01078268]
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quote: "Double Figure is really good after some listens.."
which means: "it was crap, but then I listened to it.. A LOT, because I wanted my friends to think i am cool. now, it doesn't sound like shit anymore."
although.. taste is different, so different people may like/dislike different things instantly, but if YOU think it is shit, don't listen to it. Listen to things you think are good!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-02-18 03:47 [#01078269]
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i don't remember exactly but i think one of my favourite albums grew on me...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-02-18 03:48 [#01078273]
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no one wanted me to listen to that as no one even knew it...it's just that i probably wasn't focused on listening the 1st time. if i wanted to be cool cuz of my friends i'd be listening to shitty music which would drive me insane - honestly.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2004-02-18 03:51 [#01078276]
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some stuff definately had to grow on me, i didn't like confield instantly for instance, i thought it was weird and nothing special, but after more and more listen it became more interesting and now i love it
with the early autechre (esp. incunabula) it's the other way around for me, i loved it at first but it became less interesting after a while
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2004-02-18 03:51 [#01078278]
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Plaid rocks your frigging world, people!
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2004-02-18 03:52 [#01078279]
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Rest Proof Clockwork...no more needs to be said....
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-02-18 04:26 [#01078322]
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and that was how you felt the first time you heard it?
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-18 04:32 [#01078328]
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If I'd given up on some music the first time I'd heard it I'd have missed out on some of the most amazing stuff ever released.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-02-18 04:35 [#01078330]
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if you mean that you would miss cool stuff by artists whose first song was something you thought was shit, i have to say that i don't want you to not listen to the artist. artists have both good and bad shit. you would just not have to listen to the bad shit.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-18 04:36 [#01078331]
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Gantz Graf freaked the fuck out of me when I first heard it. NOw I <3 it
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-02-18 04:39 [#01078332]
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you probably aren't supposed to like it.
know your place!
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azatoth233
from tku (Finland) on 2004-02-18 04:43 [#01078335]
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i prefer music that grow on you as you listen to it over the instantley accessible music, that later usually gets old quicker...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-02-18 04:47 [#01078337]
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I find that the songs I think are shit the first time I hear them most of the time end up as just staying shit.
it has nothing to do with accessibility.. I've liked most of AFXs stuff that i've heard on first listen (the only songs I can remember not liking is Grass, Mold and the one on Druqks where there is no music, just sounds of a woman giving birth or something like that). That is in spite of the fact that many people call afx inaccessible.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-18 06:02 [#01078411]
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I used to think it was ok on first listen but now I can't listen to anything by plaid, for some reason their sound annoys the hell out of me. Every time a Plaid track comes on my itunes playlist i skip it. Might even delete all their tracks.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-02-18 07:55 [#01078510]
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even with spokes, thy heathen?
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nacmat
on 2004-02-18 07:58 [#01078513]
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plaid are very good
very
trainer = must have
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2004-02-20 05:45 [#01081623]
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WHAT THE FUCK?! I'm trying for once to discuss some music in an innocent way, and BAM! I get bashed for trying to like it to much....what's up with you...
I didn't like Vsnares at first, but some of it I enjoy. I didn't like all aphex albums at first, but I saw the quality in some songs anyway.
Don't fucking be so judgmental. I'm not trying to make friends through music. I'm trying to find music to like. So fuck of with your "because I wanted my friends to think i am cool" attitude.
This is music...NOT politics
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-20 05:49 [#01081633]
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Don't worry, Drunken Mastah has claimed the title of Number One Bollocks Talker due to his posts in this thread.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2004-02-20 05:50 [#01081634]
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with reason....
well...I still like plaid...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-02-20 06:02 [#01081637]
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hehe. why do you diss bollocks-talk?
well. i guess you will chose your own way, but I personally never listen to (or eat or watch) something i do not instantly like.
it must be a compliment that i'm still talking to you, then. haha!
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-02-20 06:04 [#01081640]
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yeah, trainer is awesome
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-02-20 06:35 [#01081653]
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plaid dosent grow on you, it smacks you in the face with 60foot shark !
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-02-20 06:36 [#01081656]
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and then, other things will start to grow on you.. like grass, and different types of fungy.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-02-20 10:28 [#01081988]
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what do you mean, like a cancer tumor or something?
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2004-02-20 11:10 [#01082058]
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dude..If you have children, and at first you don't like the thought, will you then just get rid of them?
I think the thought of quitting things you don't like very 'pop'. Since the modern pop-world only listens to the things served, and only grabbing what they instantly like, I think you might be better off with pop.
I don't like pop, but I do like underground music. For me, underground music grows on you, and the music you experience from related artists, gives you access to a whole new world.
This is not absolutely a good thing, where as 'pop-listeners' also could push themselves into listening to underground music. Which would lead to 'pop'-ing the underground music to the surface.
I understand your 'anger' against music growing on people, cause it's weird for you to put your influence under pressure, but I think you can only stick to expressing your thoughts. People will listen to what they want.
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nacmat
on 2004-02-20 12:03 [#01082110]
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I liek when music grows on me
like it hapenned with:
ventolin confield caustic window squarepusher ...
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Atli
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-02-20 14:24 [#01082456]
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Although music can grow on you I can understand where Drunken Mastah is coming from. If you listen to something very often it becomes familiar and you sometimes like it for that reason. I want music to have an instant impact on me, that's the songs I like. Everything grows on you if you give it time unless it's real crap.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-02-20 14:27 [#01082459]
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Drunken Mastah, you'rre tlaking utterr shit. Some things do have to grrow on you because they arre complex and you can't apprreciate it all in one go.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-02-20 14:30 [#01082462]
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and most good music takes rrepeated listens.
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cx
from Norway on 2004-02-20 14:41 [#01082482]
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While I agree much music needs to grow on you, I really like it when there's something that strikes me on the first listen..
If you find it incredibly boring on the first listen, there's a good chance you won't like it at all.
Contrary to if you listen to say, a new autechre ep, like gantz graf, and everything is noisy as hell and you can't really make sense of it, to just put it down after the first listen would be a terrible mistake.
Your mind has to sort of get familiarized with it first, then start appreciating all the details.
Also I find that most music, even if I like it on the first listen, becomes better and better when you repeat them.
Cause then you sort of sing along in your head, and you wait for that special part in the song, or that special instrument you like.
And in the end you end up knowing the whole song by heart, and you love it when you play it on repeat.
That's the good stuff IMO.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-02-20 14:48 [#01082488]
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thanks forr going to the efforrt.
what s(he) said.
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cx
from Norway on 2004-02-20 14:50 [#01082491]
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anytime :P
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