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Why are there are only so few black people intrested in techno....actually I dont know many black DJs, yet the music orignated in Detroit and Techno is considered part of the Zulu Nation... |
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Maybe you just don't know a lot about Techno? |
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they...invented it... |
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Techno and House music has indeed his orgins is in Black America, interesting question, but i have no answer so far. |
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what ever it is... white people fucked it up, dried it up.. yadda yadda. |
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but they can make more money with R & B or jazz... (or pornos) |
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Techno is white boi funk |
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That is true, Princo. White people have stolen the music and the big money |
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Richie Hawtin for example is one of this suckers! |
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I dont think Techno was ever about race or nationality, Kraftwerk were german, and they were one of the founding fathers of techno |
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Somebody must tell him that he has to sell his equipment, he is totally overrated, what a boring stuff! |
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I'd argue Richie's minimal Techno is quite different to someone like Derrick May's Stuff... |
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techno is in fact a mix of black and white: the equipement and noise of kraftwerk combined with the warmth and groove of black music |
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ah yes, I'm digging that. |
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"The soul of the machine" :D |
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Voilà |
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or as derrick may once described it, "the music is like detroit, a complete mistake. it's like george clinton and kraftwerk are stuck in an elevator with only a sequencer to keep them company." i love that quote! |
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That typical derrick may, you can find this famous words on the virgin album Techno! The New Dance Sound Of Detroit |
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im black, i dig electronica |
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i dig your avatar |
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i dig holes |
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i dig dug |
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zephyr twin>> thanks |
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i dig it |
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what is the big deal anyway |
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any of you guys checked out The Undatakerz? |
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yeah what's the dig beal... haha i got to use dig again |
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jeff millzzzzzzzzzzz |
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finally some one mentions the best techno dj ever!!!!!! |
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indeed. i just dont understand a topic like this though. for me. race + music are mutually exclusive. an artists skin colour has no more bearing on their ability to make good music than their sex, age, country of origin etc. art is supposed to transcend these boundaries. naturally an artist's background has a bearing on what they create. but its not as simple as black/white good/bad.. there's great techno music made by both black + white musicians. people shouldnt be told who can create what any more than you can be told what you can listen to. that said, i do find it amusing the number of bigoted, mysoginist, homophobic macho white guys into house music - as house music's roots lie in the world of the gay black disco scene. ah, sweet irony.. |
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whats fucking interesting to me is the number of people spinning oldschool hip hop-- and all the good stuff are dorky white guys... (no prejudice, just pointing it out -- and i think it is a good thing-- i do not judge based on anything) |
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hey hey don't forget: the keys on a synth are white *and* black. |
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all the difference i've noticed is that black people prefer rhytmic music...maybe that't the reason why there aren't any in the idm scene :) |
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it probably has something to do with how you grow up... certain demographics will feel more "a part" of this or that... up until recently the white boy in hip hop was very much an outsider... i'm not going to pretend like there was no white boys in hip hop... but relative numbers will certainly show that the ratio is shifting now that there are so many prominent white figures in the hip hop scene... by contrast one might say that the lack of black people in some areas of electronic music may have something to do with the fact that the demographic, on average, has been of lower financial standing, and thus perhaps had less access to computer technology... of course you can always point to exceptions: the uk drum n bass scene was totally integrated, for example (and virtually all of my favourite dnb producers are black)... you could also just point to the fact that the music that various racial demographics grew up on was quite variant... the difference between growing up with your parents listening to classical as opposed to jazz as opposed to disco as opposed to r and b (etc, etc,) can make a huge difference... (that said, my mother listened to a lot of soul, and my dad listened to a lot of jazz... not the first genres that come to mind for upper middle class white people, born in the early 1950s... so what i'm saying only goes so far in explaining anything...) |
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i'd also like to say how lame it is to talk about this racial group "stealing" music from that racial group... granted under certain circumstances something along those lines has happened... but it's not stealing... to call it that is to, first of all, equate any individual with their race in a manner that does more than just state what colour their skin is, but attempts to structuralize their preferences, which is complete rubbish... second of all it discourages races from listening to music that is typically regarded as being the music of another race... which is, again, complete rubbish... |
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*cough*Gerald Simpson*hack*Juan Atkins*cough*Carl Craig*ahem*innovators*AHEM!* Sorry, what were you saying... |
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can someone say how many black people attend idm gigs in us? cuz here in europe you can hardly see any...for instance-the biggest electronic music festival is probably sonar, there were surely over 20.000 people there and i only saw like 2 black people. there were quite many japanese people tho. |
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i don't think anyone's denying that there are a whole lot of black artists responsible for techno's inception/development... but that doesn't change the fact that there are probably more white techo artists than black techno artists... we're talking figures, here, not prestige |
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at the one bonafide idm concert i went to there were thirty-five white nerds... probably 27 of whom were male |
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8-) |
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any one that goes to an 'IDM' gig needs to ask themselves what the fuck they are doing. |
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-supporting local talents who are looking for people to share their artistry with? -meeting other interesting people who share your tastes in music? |
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WHAT THE FUCK AM I DOING? JEEZOUS THINK I JUST SHAT IN MY OWN VAGINA! |
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I wasn't really talking to you but.........'talent', 'artistry'? yes it's taste but lot's of so called 'IDM' is variaitions on limits set by some nerd that pre-decides how far one can go. to be honest I don't find that very intelligent. If you enjoy it on some 'self appreciating' level then good. There's no way I'd waste my time appreciating some non music with intilectual pretensions |
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hee hee! my vagina needs some looking at too. |
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i'm not sure what you are objecting to.. is it simply that the word "idm" was placed before the word gig? you do listen to electronic music that is not dance-oriented don't you? i'm not asking this because i'm trying to be sarcastic and rude... but i'm curious, what you mean |
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i know more blacks into electronic than white. i used to know a guy that sort of liked industrial, and thats about it. other than that everyone elsei know or have known have either been european like myself, middle eastern or black. then again, i dont really talk to a whole lot of white people. But blacks are very into electronic music around here and in detroit. i have family in detroit, and all they listen to is house and downtempo. I dont know where the person that originlly posted is from, but i'm guessing its not very culturally diverse. |
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Please tell me the Prefuse 73 guy is black? |
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No. |
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