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offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-02-10 18:47 [#01067608]
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He better get used to anal sex. Actually, does the uk have
pound you in the ass sex in their prisons?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-02-10 18:47 [#01067609]
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If I get into a fight in the street and the other person was
equally willing to get into the fight but I ended up killing
him, I would get life for manslaughter. Why should this
fool get off with anything less?


 

offline Asche XL on 2004-02-10 18:58 [#01067624]
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YEah man I completely agree with you. He should have gotten
atleast 50yrs in prison. Fuck this
1) he wasent suppose to be here
2) he wasent suppose to be driving
3)killed a boy

fuck him, and his family.

You know what I hate? All the fuckin' spanish people that
flock to america. Get the hell out, stop waiting on the st
for a job, it's holding up traffic.

And another thing, if you live here, speak english. Thank
you and goodnight.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-10 19:02 [#01067629]
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you know, unless you are native american, your ancestors
were in the same position as those spanish people at one
point in time. (leaving their country for the U.S. because
it gave them opportunities that would probably never be
possible in their homeland).


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-02-10 19:03 [#01067633]
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they all just wanted to get something for free.


 

offline Asche XL on 2004-02-10 19:08 [#01067638]
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Yeah I'm saying i'm against foreigners. I'm not, at all.

I'm against the spanish familes coming over illegaly with
232183973 memebrs in their family standing out in the st
looking for work ( aka day laborors). Then, the lucky ones
(fuck them) get jobs that require human
interaction/communication and get mad AT YOU FOR NOT KNOWING
SPANISH. What the fuck is this? Welcome to america, learn
english. If i moved to France or germany god only knows I'd
learn the fuckin language before I got a job. I wouldnt
stand there with a blank/pissed off look on my face if
someone was speaking the countrys native tounge at me. God
damn i hate them.


 

offline Asche XL on 2004-02-10 19:09 [#01067639]
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Ops, correction on my first scentence. IT's suppose to read
:

"Yeah, I'm NOT saying I'm against foreigners."


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-02-10 19:11 [#01067644]
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Actually in some states I think Spanish is spoken by a
higher proportion of residents as a first language than
English...I think California is nearly at that level if not
already there.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-10 19:14 [#01067648]
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I agree about the language thing.. I think they should
definately have to use English, but it's not like education
in English is readily available in countries as poor as
mexico. They are going to have to be here for a while before
they can learn the language, so in the mean time your only
option is to put up with them, unless you either a)kill them
all, or b)find a way to get them all out of the US.


 

offline Asche XL on 2004-02-10 19:15 [#01067649]
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*Rubs chin in deep thought*


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-10 19:16 [#01067652]
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haha


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-02-10 19:17 [#01067653]
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Why should they learn English if they move into the US???
Lets not forget the first European colonial landings were by
the Spanish. Maybe you should be more culturally diverse
yourself and speak Spanish, especially as you have access to
the education to do so.


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-02-10 19:24 [#01067666]
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mexican. not spanish


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-02-10 19:30 [#01067682]
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unless you're talking about the latin invasion, which gave
us such saucy greats as ricky martin and penelope cruz


 

offline Asche XL on 2004-02-10 19:31 [#01067686]
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NO WAY am I ever learning spanish. Everything here is in
spanish, why should we cater to them so much??

I know 2 languages and am planning on studying german.
Atleast they can do is learn english. I have no problem with
foreigners like I said. I just have a problem with the
illegal mexians coming here and either a) begging for jobs
in the st b) getting a job in which communication is
necessary and not knowing any english. I hate it so goddamn
much you have no idea, that and people who don't signal
while driving. Damn them too.



 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-02-10 19:32 [#01067687]
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But what gives you the right to dictate what language is
spoken in the land of your residence?


 

offline Asche XL on 2004-02-10 19:41 [#01067703]
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Oh come on man, now your just busting my balls. You honestly
can't understand what I'm saying.?!?! I'm sure you'd get
just as pissed if you've been in the situation and/or had
them wondering your neighborhood. Most of them cause nothing
but trouble anyway! ( speaking of people who cause nothing
but trouble and are of no use to society dont even get me
started on "thugs")No one gives me the right to anything.
I'm just excercizing my freedom of speech to say I hate
those people with every bone in my body, agree with me or
not. I have friends from many different races/nationalities
( white, black, spanish, french, german, english, italian,
lithuanian, guyanese etc) you don't see me sneakin in their
country and causing trouble do you?


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-02-10 19:43 [#01067709]
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but I like burritos? What about taco bell? Do they have to
leave, too? Cilantro in beef burritos is to die for.


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-02-10 19:47 [#01067712]
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I saw you sneaking in to the land of homosexon, but you
speak the language.


 

offline DeLtoiD from Ontario on 2004-02-10 19:47 [#01067714]
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"you don't see me sneakin in their
country and causing trouble do you?"

yes, i do.
you belligerent schmuck.


 

offline Asche XL on 2004-02-10 19:49 [#01067717]
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huh? I'm done...


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-02-10 19:49 [#01067718]
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haha...yeah who would have thought the US could ever be
accused of interfering with other countried affairs.


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-02-10 19:57 [#01067727]
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Don't get started Englishman.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-02-10 20:00 [#01067728]
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Who you calling Englishman?


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2004-02-10 20:10 [#01067730]
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hee hee, Asche is a complete bigot racist without knowing
it... I've got as many preducies as the next asian
gentleman but there's some obvious things that are right.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-10 20:39 [#01067744]
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Umm, maybe because that is the language that is spoken here?
You were probably joking anyway, but seriously that is the
worst argument ever. There is just no reason I should learn
spanish (even though I've 4 years of study in it) because of
immigrants to MY country. How does it make sense for an
entire country to cater to a small percentage of it's
population, most of which are there illegally anyway, by
learning their native language? If I went to Mexico (rural
areas that wouldn't have people who speak english), you
wouldn't see the entire population drop what they are doing
to learn English so that I know what the fuck is going on.
They would react the exact same way I am now, and you know
it.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-10 20:40 [#01067745]
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I've had*


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2004-02-10 20:46 [#01067746]
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C'mon Zephyr, where is your family from originally?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-02-10 20:47 [#01067747]
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Throughout history the national language of countries have
changed with migrant movement. The fact of the matter is
that it isn't YOUR country at all. Your existance is your
business however you, nor anyone else has a right to dictate
to people what language they choose to speak. If they want
access to the services provided by an English speaking
government who are unwilling to make provisions for dealing
in the claiments native tongue then of course they should
learn the language. However, Spanish settlements have
existed in the US for at least as long as English. Your
arguement is just the usual white english speaking american
view that it is only right and proper you force your own
cultural identity onto everyone else.


 

offline Asche XL on 2004-02-10 20:48 [#01067748]
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Bigot Racist? Who's group am I partial to? What race do i
hate? I never said I hate a race, I said I hate illegal
mexicans who sworm this country like bees to honey. I have 2
mexican friends who are fluent in both languages, going to
college and have a bright future ahead of them. I don't have
anything against anyones race or nationality, but when you
come here and start fuckin around I mean that's just a
stupid. Illegal immigrants, get out or do what you have to
do to come here legally, drop the 'tude and learn the
language. Get off the sts, stop hangin in front of 7-11's
stealin kids lunch money.


 

offline Asche XL on 2004-02-10 20:51 [#01067752]
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So if a bunch of french go over to germany and impose their
culture on the country germany should just be like well the
french are coming lets toss german out the window?

That's bs, no ones trying to impose shit.
And you my friend are just speaking as a typical US hater.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-02-10 20:59 [#01067756]
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No however if a group of French people decided to settle in
a French community in Germany, and the German government had
provisions in place to deal with them in French then I think
it would be totally inappropriate for the german government
to force them to adopt what would be perceived as a german
cultural identity.

And you think I am a US hater because I am sticking up with
the Spanish speaking communities right to speak their native
language? They aren't part of the US?

You talk of entire cultural groups as though they are one
body. That is like me saying you personally are a twat for
going into Iraq and bombing the shit out of them for their
oil. However I try to deal with everyone as an individual
and respect them, their views, and their cultural identity
on that basis.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-02-10 21:00 [#01067757]
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and much more of this and I will be one of xltronics
"thoughest" posters. :D


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-10 21:00 [#01067758]
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im not forcing my cultural identity on anyone. I do not have
a problem with the fact that languages change with migrant
movement. So when the Spanish speaking population of the
United States surpasses that of Enlgish speaking, by all
means we should all learn Spanish, but until that day it
just WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE.

"If they want access to the services provided by an English
speaking government who are unwilling to make provisions for
dealing in the claiments native tongue then of course they
should
learn the language."

Oh, so you mean like, the way it already it is now?



 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2004-02-10 21:02 [#01067759]
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ho ho! I know it's early but go to bed. You're talking shit.
Read up on american history, it's not that hard of a read,
maybe a few hundred years... maybe ask someone to explain
the difficult parts. You didn't say where you're from
originally?


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-10 21:02 [#01067760]
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my family origin is Hungarian, Italian, and German... what
does this have to do with anything?


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2004-02-10 21:06 [#01067763]
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the language you speak, the heritage you've deneid etc.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-02-10 21:07 [#01067765]
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I'm sorry but Spanish provisions are made in states with
high Spanish speaking populations, so it's not at all like
it is now.

If you don't want to learn Spanish then don't, just don't
force people to learn English.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-10 21:11 [#01067769]
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Well, I guess I could go out of my way to learn all three of
those languages, never mind the fact that it would be a
waste of time since I would have no one to speak them to and
I would eventually end up forgetting them... your point?

previous post: English*, already it is now*


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-02-10 21:14 [#01067770]
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I am learning Hungarian at the moment because my best friend
is of Hungarian origin but dyslexic so I am learning it at
the same time as him to help him through with it before he
goes to visit family next summer (I'll fuck off over to
Budapest at the same time for a holiday though :D).


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-10 21:17 [#01067772]
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that's pretty cool of you.. I would like to learn Hungarian
but it would be a waste with no one to talk to.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-02-10 21:19 [#01067775]
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It's a mad language...very little in common at all with
other european languages...it is actually most closely
related to distant syberian languages. I am finding it more
interesting than learning Spanish though (which I know
enough to get by on) :D


 

offline Asche XL on 2004-02-10 21:23 [#01067779]
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I'm talking shit? Oh man, thanks for telling me. Heehee I
can't believe I didn't realize! Thanks for letting me know,
I gotta go find someone to help me read. Night all.


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-02-10 21:26 [#01067781]
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The French are enforcing their frenchness on their citizens
by making disrobe all religous regalia.. That's pretty
fucked up. And if the US had done this people would be
burning flags and lighting Ronald Mcdonald on fire.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-02-10 21:28 [#01067783]
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I disagree with that as well, part of me just thinks that is
partly down to misguided good intentions though.


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-02-10 21:33 [#01067793]
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Well, of course. Cause they aren't Americans. They have gas
lamps still for fuck sakes,


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-02-10 23:20 [#01067845]
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Actually, I have never been to Paris. I have no clue if they
still use gas lamps.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-02-10 23:23 [#01067846]
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man, a friend of mine was killed by a drunk driver 3 years
ago, and the killer got 1 year house arrest for it, and
thats it.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2004-02-11 03:07 [#01067913]
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You turned it into a race issue by saying the fact he
"shouldn't have been in the country" compounded his guilt.
You stupid racist twat.

Qualify why you think he shouldn't have been here and why
that makes his crime worse?


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2004-02-11 03:09 [#01067916]
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I was also wondering what the sentence should be for UK
troops who shoot Iraqi civilians "accidentally". They also
should not be in the country.


 


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