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please state below your genuine opinion of the music that is in the 'IDM' / 'Electronica' kind of scene ... It seems to me there is so much more shit than good these days ? Am i just too involved now ? Have my expectations got too high or is it that everyone is a have a go producer now ? i would like to know what people think ... There's still alot of good shit out there but you definately have to wade thru alot of bad shit to find it ... and how come there is so little of this music on the national radio playlists even tho so much is used on tele (def here in the uk) yet every pop tune from the radio ends up on tele too ?? is it me or is there some shit goin on behind the scenes ? i hear tracks on the radio and the presenter says ... this record is being released in 2 weeks should be a top 10 ??? i thought we were supposed to decide that !! by either buying the record or not ... why don't they play some of the hundreds of tracks that have actually been released that week for example instead and see if people like it and want to go buy it ... i'm sure with the amount of idm influenced shit arnd now (maddona/radio head/kylie/britney/busta etc etc) people may actually want to hear this music without some dodge vocals on it too ... classical was pop once ... and i'm sure more people preffered that to opera, i def do ... lemme kno ... i'm confused ... ; ) |
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They do play this stuff on the radio in california....only at 4 in the morning That is a hard question to answer though. A lot of my friends whom ive played this kind of music for think its just okay but would never go out and buy an album. So I dont really see it getting radio time...I dont know |
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i have only two awnsers to this re have a go producers everybody has access to software and half decent hardware re this will be a top ten next week record companys have deep pockets |
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admittedly they do play some here late night too but surely the only reason people like the pop is because they have it rammed down their throats all day on the radio ... if there was no radio and to listen to music you had to go and buy it (no sharing or tv either) how many people would still choose what's played on the radio over everything else ? that's what i want to know ... |
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re record companys have deep pockets and the crowd is getting predictable |
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Radio one pretty much decides the top 40. I know they make a big thing of their chart being the most impartial as it's based purely on record sales, but that's rubbish. They pick what records to support and play, those are the ones most of the record buying populance hear and subsequently those are the ones that sell more and chart. |
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nobs right, any person can try and throw music together but usually those peoples music are shit. I think the quality of ones music is reflected upon their love of music in general...meaning I know people (like those idiots in american idol) whose want to make music is only for money. there is no passion or soul behind it therefore it sucks, so all in all I guess I dont know where im going with this cool avatar btw nob |
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totally ... it's so ridiculous that people can be so blindly led tho ... when will it end ? |
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peer pressure is the reason for it all! |
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how do you get peer pressure into listening to music that in actual fact your not into tho ? it's wierd ... i couldn't imagine just listening to whatever was on all the time ? i have to choose ... or is it that not everyone actually does love music in some form ... i always took it for granted it was something special to everyone, a small part of all of us ... it's emotion ... |
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Warp stuff used to chart in the early 90s. I remember hearing LFO - LFO and Tricky Disco - Tricky Disco on the chart show as a kid. I bet almost any genre, short of noise, could dominate the charts if the big labels and the radio stations agreed to play/produce mainly that. My main problem with Pop currently is that rather than refering to simply popular music (I mean, Beatles and Hendrix were "popular music") it is a whole new genre that is sort of "Lite" version of a lot of all other genres- you get pop-rap, pop-dance, pop-drum and bass etc. all radio friendly, easy listening versions of what can be very good, challenging music. Sure, some of it is great- I like electroclash and I'm partial to some pop drum and bass (Kosheen, Puretone, etc.), but the dance/house they play on the radio is generally a poor representation of what the genre has to offer. |
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ceri ... that was spot on !! |
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safety in numbers? |
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There are suprisingly people that dont like music all that much, its hard for me to imagine but they really dont care and will listen to anything that is on the radio but stop listening to me Ceri hit the nail on the head! |
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so does that mean that in 10 yrs maybe it will change along with the management you rekon then ? or shld i just go with safety in numbers and start doin pop on the side ; ) although to be fair i don't think i could do pop-lite ... |
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depends how safe you want to be i guess :) what i meant was that the emotion thing works both ways. on the one hand its really personal, but then on the other hand, there's bound to be social influence and what not. maybe fast food is a better analogy? having said that i love burgers ?? |
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depends on the day, but in perth RTRFM 92.1 does a show called full frequency almost every day between 3 and 5 in the afternoon. they play lots of good stuff. |
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i hope it does end up going good ... the day i switch on the radio when i get in my car during daylight hours and here non pop on a big station (ie. not jazz or classical on their respective stations) or switch on my tele and get a music channel with all good videos not just the same crap ones repeated all day i'll be a very happy (and probably old) man : ) let's hope the day dawns ... |
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well here they moved the electronic show "parallel universe" from 11pm-2am to 10pm-1am ... so there's hope :) maybe its a patience (not quite the right word) thing as well. but i have some friends that quite like idm/etc. but generally just consider it "nice background music" etc. etc. there seems to be a real bubblegum mentality in pop :: 3 chews and all the flavours gone ... and that's a real shame. |
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john peel on radio 1 plays from 10 - 12 pm and some of that is fcked up |
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true but it's also got alot of shit too ( i think he's kinda losing it personally an just trys to grab at straws alot but i don't know that so ... ) but how good would a drivetime or morning show be ... on your way or bak from work ... or even an all day one like jazz fm that catered for people who care rfather than those who don't ... |
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buy a car cd-player. it serves you better |
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Ceri is 100% correct! as regards to American Idol etc. I'd like to see an IDM version of this, the prize would be free internet access, for a year with a 6month soulseek privellages account, a brand new mouse and a pocket word scrambling device for titles of tracks, it could be called Bone Idol. |
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I could say something.... but it's probably already been said once in this thread. All I can say is that vocals are the key to this, take vocals out of these pop productions and it might open peoples eyes a little bit. |
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i got one but it would be nice to be able to hear new music without losing a couple of days a week ... its all i do so i spend alot of time wading thru shit to find new stuff ... i listen to most things maybe once or twice then catalogue it ... i have some 3000+ records plus all my cd's mini discs/dats you name it on top ... it's my whole life ... there's not much that get's into my permanent playlist ... but when it does it's there cos i love it ... i need to hear new music all the time it's just the way i am and i also think that if the radio would play it then people would buy it and then the scene would grow and it would benefit everyone as crap pop would begin to be phased out and we'd get back to the art of music again ... rather than this pop-lite culture we are in ... we'd end up with genuine pop(ular) music ... i do think the internet is a great help tho !!!! |
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btw that rant was in reply to ... buy a car cd-player. it serves you better good advice tho for those that don't ... and to be fair there is the occasional pop tune even today that i do like : ) i just don't like the way it's so pre arranged by the big labels i guess ... |
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I personally think people like yourself are too quick to label what you defined as shit. |
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Any music that is obviously made in an attempt to make money (and nothing else) I immediately categorize as shit. |
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i haven't actuall defined a single thing as shit actually ... |
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Well lets hope you have a good job, 'cos that way at least you'll earn your keep somehow :) |
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but if you want me to i can give examples of shit tunes ; ) or good ones ... but only in my opinion !! |
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i think i do : ) |
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I don't think examples are necessary, my comment was only that it seems with many here that if something isn't to there taste, then it must be shit. Which is a very immature attitude. |
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my opinion is morre valid that a, b and c's. |
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any music that is sold for money is commercial |
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not at all ... i respect alot of music for the craft and the many years of practice it took to be able to produce that music but it doesn't mean that i choose to listen to it more than once ... i'll give anything a go ... as i do with the demos i get sent every week BUT ther is alot of shit out there too : ) |
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I hope you're not referring to me ;) Sometimes I admit it is down to taste, I can accept when a song isn't to my taste, but I know shit when I hear it. And it annoys me more that people are conditioned to enjoy it, then buy it. |
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I never said otherwise. |
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only just worked that function out ... thanks jedi ... anyways ... so do you not feel that there is some shit music or do you feel that all music is loved/liked by someone (apart from the guy that made it an his mum) ? jus wonderin ... |
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nope still can't seem to say which post i'm replyin to ? anyone know how to explain it to me ? it's gettin a bit confusin abt who's sayin what to who ? i just wanted some feedback to be fair when i started this ... |
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click [#01064317] that numberr, then just rreply, click nothing else, just type yourr message. trry it. |
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that's what i did the last time but it didn't work, i'll try this time tho an hope it does : ) |
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didn't work ??????? ahhhhhhh ... oh well i never done it b4 so why bother tryin to do it again ... i'll just quote to be clear like on EA : ) |
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u rr do ing it rrong |
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Anus_Presley from on the vine on 2004-02-08 14:02 [#01064327] i clicked on the number at the end above ... it took me to here where i copied and pasted that info in ... now i'm gonna press reply ... in theory is that all correct ? |
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do you have a mac because i think big had a problem replying with his |
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cos it ain't workin ; ) |
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yeah i'm on power books ... |
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you had the theorry corrrrect. yes. |
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yo jedi ... so do you not feel that there is some shit music out there then ? or do you feel that all music is loved/liked by someone (apart from the guy that made it an his mum) ? jus wonderin ... what say you : ) |
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