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Anus_Presley
on 2004-02-08 07:11 [#01064352]
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no music is hated by everryone.
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-02-08 07:14 [#01064354]
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Something can be 'not' to you liking, but that doesn't mean it is anyless professional in terms of its creativity and the work put into it. Thats all. To simply label something as 'shit' is narrow minded I think. I don't mean any offense to you personally.
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colonymike
from london (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-08 07:30 [#01064364]
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none taken don't worry : ) i just genuinely wanted to know if you thought there was no shit music ... i really do feel that everyone believes ther is shit music ... they may not agree what that music is but everyone does it ... i simply wanted to see if you'd admit there is some music you think is shit too ; )
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-02-08 07:32 [#01064366]
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Some music isn't as good as some other music, but I think its just childish to call it shit.
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colonymike
from london (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-08 07:35 [#01064373]
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that's ridiculous ... some is so bad to some people it has to go in the category of shit ... that's like saying there's no great music !
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colonymike
from london (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-08 07:37 [#01064378]
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you obviously have issues with language use ... would 'not good music' be more acceptable ? or should you always say i think that is not as good as that or that is better than that ?
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colonymike
from london (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-08 07:41 [#01064381]
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if someone told you a real bad joke you'd say it was shit wouldn't you ? or would you say ...
Some jokes aren't as good as some other jokes, but I think its just childish to call them shit.
; )
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-08 11:51 [#01064619]
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I'd argue that the main underlying similarity that unites all IDM into a single category is the use of computers to produce and orgainze sound. The music present people fashionably refer to as IDM is probably that which uses more sophisticated software... information organized that allows maximum control over small ammounts of time that would otherwise be virtually impossible. I think there's a lot of "shit" these days too, even autechre and aphex's newer material does not impress me much. It might be a sort of cultural pendalum that has swung toward a less caring state in regards to neurotic composing. Perhaps the large ammount of awesome music that has suddenly become available has left people temporarily uninspired to even try to top it. There's different opinions of what sounds good and people listen to music for different reasons... the two main cateorical reasons I'd argue to be emotional and (logical?). Humans have ears because reptiles from which we evolved were naturally selected to "hear" with their jaw bones. These jaw bones gradually evolved into the intricate hammer, anvil and eardrum or whatever they're called. This theoretically also had something to do with fish used to hearing in water but when we came on land we needed to amplify sound because air is less dense or something, I forget.
Mike, try fizzarum's "monochrome plural". It is actually possibly the most similar thing to crunch's 1 I've ever heard in terms of melody and weird crunch beats.
As far as what's popular, I don't really know how humans behave on a macro-level. I suppose radio stations would prefer to keep tried and true money makers rather than take risks. Plus whatever music happens to be good at replicating itself, in actual music and in written music and thoughts in people's heads will be more dominant in number by definition.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-02-08 14:08 [#01064775]
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it's pretty easy to get hold of a computer, only slightly harder to get hold of cracked music software.
therefore, easier for people to start to make computer-based music, in this case what is called "idm".
therefore, there will also be a lot more crap music.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-02-08 14:10 [#01064776]
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essentially, a lot of what is labeled as "experimental" are just popsongs using synths or "weird" sounds.
lots of "idm" still uses a conventional verse/chorus/bridge structure, which is pretty boring in the end.
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colonymike
from london (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-08 17:28 [#01064915]
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hey hey guys ... you both well ; )
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subdeatechate
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-02-08 20:01 [#01065055]
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Pig Chaw, Pig Slop, 90% sucks!
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-02-08 20:51 [#01065083]
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95% of ''IDM'' seems to me to be instantly forgettable (not necessarily BAD), especially the ''experimental'' stuff, but that's how it is with all music. It's that other 5% that makes life worth living, truly. I'll never like IDM as much as rock anyway, it doesn't have enough jangling guitars.
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