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i just got their most recent 2 albums Is This It & Room On Fire and i gots to say i liked rock before, now i love it.... what do you guys think? |
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overrated, manufactured crap. listen to the Velvet Underground for some good rock music |
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yes but thats the point, recent stuff that just brings back the old times, i know its mod rock pop or whatever everyone wants to call it, but it has something |
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They're a real band, so they're not manufactured. They're overrated, yes. However, they've done some good songs, so I find them worth listening to. I like about half of each of their albums. |
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"recent stuff that just brings back the old times," why not just buy some old music thats far superior then? |
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Because The Strokes have some good songs? |
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well why get any new music then, when all the old shit is superior right? |
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i like the strokes because they're just really easy to listen to even if they are "overated" or "ripoffs". they're just an alright band that gets more credit than they deserve but still make good music. |
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hate 'em |
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what is wrong with you people :p |
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311 is god |
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i like em. |
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firstly, just because a band achieve commercial success + are backed by a major label does not make them 'manufactured'. secondly, here's an outlandish suggestion.. i tend to try and ignore the hype surrounding a band. whether or not theyre being championned as the best thing since sliced bread or hailed by the music press as the new 'hip' thing that everyone should get into makes absolutely NO difference to the quality of the music. its the same as the whole sellout/undergound/mainstream argument.. just because a particular artist is largely unrecognised does not make their albums better. i understand that overexposure to certain songs/artist on the radio/tv can take the freshness out of the music. but theres a simple way around that - don't get forcefed music by commercial radio + tv.. same goes for the 'age' argument. just because a certain style of music was experimented with in the 60s 70s (or whenever for that matter) does not make it superior to something done today. regardless of timescale or media hysteria, music should be judged in its own right. i personally quite like some of the strokes' songs. some i don't like so much.. but that isnt because they were on the front of nme last month, or because some tv-personality with a distinct lack of taste said their album was good, or because their sound has been around for a good couple of decades.. its because the songs dont 'do it' for me.. musically. these kinds of attitudes are just tired old music snobbery + its one of the few things that winds me up. "idm" (god i hate that term) listeners always seem to try + pride themselves in being openminded.. but some clearly have unhealthy elitist attitudes. in fact, the very term "intelligent-dance-music" points to this.. in my opinion, this is not what music is about.. |
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bla bla bla hahaha |
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"60s 70s (or whenever for that matter) does not make it superior to something done today." i think most people would agree the Velvet Underground are better than the Strokes, not because they made the music in the 60's, but because they simply made better music. The Strokes bore me, the tracks i've heard seem badly produced, sounds merge together badly and his voice... I can't understand a word he's singing. |
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i agree wholeheartedly.. velvet underground are better than the strokes.. but (as you said) because of the music.. not because of when they did it. +with regards for the '60s 70s or whenever' comment: i wasnt being specific to velvet underground or any particular style of music. hence the vagueness. wasnt meant to sound dismissive. |
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"+with regards for the '60s 70s or whenever' comment: " oh ok, i thought you were refering to my post :) |
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yay.. you see? when we talk things through + communicate properly, we can all reach a peaceful conclusion in an atmosphere of understanding + acceptance.. if only the world leaders could learn from our humbling example.. |
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i think they're good, but like 100 times less good then white stripes. |
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say whatever you want about them... they can defenitly write songs. |
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I manage to feel the same way, i think you expressed yourself well. My point of differentiation, is that when an artist makes music not for themselves, and to express themselves, but to make a hit, make some money, push sales, then thre you have a problem. Will I still listen to manufactored pop? Nope, I'll still hear it sometime I'm sure, it's hard to avoid, but the SCENE is what ruins music for people. If you like it, and the artist made it as an expression of who they are, what they wanted to do, then fuck yeah, go for it. I happen the strokes eat dick, but if you proove they aren't sellouts just trying to push some lame ass image, I won't have any ill will if you enjoy them. |
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the strokes are great, but the vu are 10000x better |
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as i don't know them personally, i can't vouch for the fact that the strokes aren't "sellouts just trying to push some lame ass image".. if they are, then i think there are easier ways to 'sell out'.. go back a few years + it seemed quite unlikely that bands of this ilk would become as popular/visible in the public eye worldwide as they have done. i just enjoy a couple of their songs. theyre far from my favourite artists - and as such its not my personal crusade to defend them. i grew tired of the politics of music a long time ago. though i do agree with you that it is a shame when music is released solely as a commercial venture with little or no imagination going into its production. |
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holy fuck, the strokes? what a load of shit! manufactured, crappy, unorignal fuckin fag band. they goddamn suck!!!!! seriously, they are one of the lamest fuckin bands, OH I LIKE THE STROKE IM A BIG FUCKIN RETARD, wtf? the strokes suck dick...... constantly, this is hipster wanna be, scenster crap! how could these rocknroll fags wanna fit in anymore? its a huge trend, a fad.. something that will be blown away in the wind with no time at all. goddamnit they are just as bad as the white fuckin lame stripes. |
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if anyone reading this thinks that they are original or are a easy band to listen to then fuck off, your just a talentless loving wank piece of no good shit who cant recognize crap from anyting else and should shoot yourself in the fucking face for listening to such contrived bullshit. |
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hate em as well. |
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Ho, fuck, this is ridiculous. |
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Deaf Blind Females blow the Strokes out of the water anyway. |
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thanks for lowering the tone reflex.. why dont you post a list of everything xlt members can+can't listen to +i'm sure no one will have a problem conforming to your wholly objective view of the world. that way we'll all be the same + get along fine. like one happy family/trend/clique/scene/fad.. |
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ps. calling people retards+wankers +asking them to shoot themselves in the face does not give the impression that youre a particularly openminded or emotionally stable individual. |
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acrid milk hall: yeah, thats right. i could care less, really, people can do what they want, but im not going to sit here while people actually say they like this shitty fuckin band, trendy crap makes me angry so what? |
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haha you need to calm down |
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i really like thier first album the second one was good too but i got bored of it quickly |
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velvet underground have been a staple for me since i was really really young.... as such i'm immediately attracted with anything that sounds remotely NYC. and the strokes sound a little more than just remotely NYC. I think if you saw them live you would be presently suprised, especially at a decenet venue (such as a theatre rather than a bar). Musically they are tight as hell and can get a really great sound. what's all a bit sameish on record sounds a hell of a lot better live. |
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yeah, i really like how 'tight' they are rhythmically. kinda makes me bob my head and look like an idiot.... it's a good change to hear something like the strokes right after you've finished a really sloppy song like i dunno....sail to the moon by radiohead. |
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i still dont know how people know a band is better than another. i can say that i enjoy a lot more a band than another. but to know that they are officially better, i cant figure out how people arrived to that factual conclusion... |
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dan : i've heard it said before that the strokes are better live than on record. laqeuro : i know what you mean about them being rhythmically 'tight'. think thats why i like some of their tracks. nice to hear a contemporary 'rock' band with a bit of groove. don't know if i'll be listening to them years from now. but whats the point in speculating, eh? cortex : i agree with you, wholeheartedly. |
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reptilia is awesome... they're great and they turned things around. suddenly rock is rock again |
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they still suck dick constantly, people who dig these guys have no idea what real music they are missing out on, take a hint and find a real band that isnt fake bullshit. like the strokes. or the white stripes, maybe they will do a tour together and their plane will crash. *big thumbs up. |
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i'm not missing on anything... i'm sure i know more music than you. |
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would you stop fucking assuming everything christ, you talk like you're god. yes, we are completly clueless in music because we listen to one band. |
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laqeuro: well yes, in this case you would be, im glad to see youd easily admist to listening to a band with the talent of a grade 7 garage band, fuck... |
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acrid milk hall pretty much summed it up...reflex why is every argument for the strokes sucking based on them being "wannabe" "hipster"....fuck the commercial side of it, you know radiohead make videos and sell cd's as well i doubt any one here hates them.....so quit bringing up the same old the 70's are over argument....music is music, and the strokes happen to be good at it whatever you think of their image fine, but the strokes are good at what they do....and if you disagree you are wrong, i am right. :) |
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Sometimes when i read REPHLEX posts i can almost hear the banjo music theme from "Deliverence". |
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