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quick, easy question.. which is best? [the reason i ask is that im ripping some of my cds - im using cdex + it seems to leave tiny gaps between tracks (not good for mix cds or albums where one track bleeds into the next) ..if i use windows media player + create wmas theres no gaps. dont want to d/l new ripping software anything cos im in a hurry. im going away for the weekend + want to fill my laptop up with music asap. im fully aware that compressed audio files are lower quality than cd-sound.. im not too worried about filesize either.. i just want good quality sound + no gaps between tracks.. FAST! thanks. ..guess it wasnt that quick a question in the end. |
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mp3 is far supperior. don't know about the gaps though. i use cdex and have never noticed this. maybe try using another ripping app? |
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do what you need to do to get the mp3s working, you will be so regretting it if you encode them as wma's.. |
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worst case scenario if you keep getting the gaps, there are apps out there that will take silence off the start and end of mp3s in bulk... :\ |
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i guess that the mp3 fomat leve those gaps, nothing to do about it i think. And i hate wma, so i'll have to force you to use mp3! |
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i was a bit late... |
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thanks for the advice. had a feeling mp3 was higher quality. makes sense, size-wise.. |
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what are you playing them back in to hear the gaps? are you burning them to a cd with no gaps in between tracks and hearing them? or are you listening to them in winamp? winamps default is to leave a small gap between tracks during playback.. if you open the waveform and look at it, do you actually see the silent sector? |
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Don't use wma. You have a couple solutions for mp3+gaps. But the gaps are basically a limitation of the format. 1. Rip albums as 1 large wav, saving the cue sheet, then encode to mp3. Many players can use the cue sheet to play tracks. Bad for portables, though. 2. Many players like winamp can crossfade between tracks so you don't notice the gap. It's a hack but usually your ear can't hear the difference. 3. Encode your mp3s with a recent (3.90+) version of the LAME encoder. Some players (only Foobar2000 to my knowledge) can read the actual length of the music data that LAME writes into the file and will give you gapless playback without hacks. P.S. You should use the LAME encoder anyway whether you plan on taking advantage of the special feature or not. |
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is this even a question? mp3, for chrissakes!! :P |
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yeah, everything inverted whale says.. nice to see you inverted whale |
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yes but its either that or i drag 100 cds with me everywhere i go.. its a convenience thing. |
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hello pomme! I don't know of any hardware mp3 portables that do gapless playback between tracks. That's a bit of a problem. There are a couple of players that play the ogg vorbis format now, and that is gapless. |
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thanks anyway everyone. im sure i'll live. |
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the gap isnt longer that half a second, so its not that unbearable. i think... |
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wma is for beyotches! |
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m4a all the way. |
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It sure is, Nigel. |
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MP3 |
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MP3, wma can be so frustrating sometimes! |
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mp3?! wma?! wtf with you boys! IT'S EITHER MPC OR OGG there are compact CD- and HDD- players supporting ogg these days but yes we're never going to win yes yes sad kinda |
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wma is by microsoft therefore it is scum. Go MP3! |
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You short-sighted fools :) WMA is technically superior to MP3 (better compression/quality ratio, (it's a fact), and WMA's only downfall (and this may not be in future) is the number of portable players that support WMA. Overall, MP3 is superior due to the portability issue. WMA also supports 5.1 audio encoding. |
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OGG OGG OGG OGG OGG OGG OGG OGG OGG OGG OGG OGGGOGOGOGOGagdsOGDAO DGAOD GSoGDog111 1fdUCKinG JOYFExs1 OGG |
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I did not know that |
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Ogg is good. The compression is enormous but mp3 is like weed. When you try it you will never stop. |
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i tried weed a few times, it's rad, but i don't plan to use it further |
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i think wma is also capable of lossless compression. whereas mp3 is not. |
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yes. i'd say the WMA format is superior to the MP3 format based on technical merit. |
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I call bullshit. Point me to a scientific listening test that proves wma is better quality than mp3 at the same size/bitrate. I can point to one that . Scroll down to the bottom and read the conclusions in red. |
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(analysis on following page) "WMA had a very heavy start, especially version 7 that was designed as a substitute to MP3 and that became its toughest opponent; that was mainly because it lacked the quality MP3 had, but since then a lot of things have changed. Version 8 of Microsoft’s product beats MP3 clearly in every single point. However the format still has the same old problems: many users are not willing to give up the MP3-collection they have gathered the last few years." |
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I see a few problems with this test. The tests were performed by only one person. The tests were not performed double-blind to remove the placebo effect (ABX testing) The quality portion of this test seems to be one person's opinion and not something from which to draw your own conclusions. You'd be better off listening to the formats yourself and making a decision. Neither way is scientific but at least you are using your own ears and equipment. |
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People will believe anything if its in writing!! |
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Inverted Whale - Good to see ya buddy! |
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wma doesnt play well with macs, so I say to hell with it. mp3...or mp4. But that's just as proprietary as windows media. |
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I used a Mac for the first time properly yesterday.......awefull absolutely awefull in my opinion. |
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unfamiliarity breeds contempt |
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I'm sorry to hear that. Better luck next time. |
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When I crave that 80's digital crunch, I listen to WMA's. |
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Use . It's quite a culture shock if you're used to winamp/wmp but it has far more features, uses less memory, is almost fully tweakable and has an excellent gap killer (in the special pack) |
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WMA 9 supports 5.1 and is even better than WMA 8, and works with Macs (they have a Media Player for Mac OSX). Ogg is good, but again, the number of players (external or otherwise) are pretty limited. |
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MP3s are better to listen to but Wilmas stay crunchy in milk. |
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