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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-01-26 18:20 [#01050021]
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i've got this strange need, i see it as a game when i'm going to a gig, to touch the people i'm seeing. for instance i touched: all crew from Nightmares On Wax, the girl from broadcast, (didn't want to touch the boys), Jamie lidell, T. raumschiere, doormouse and more... does this make me a groupie?or just an idiot who's trying to have some fun going out?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-26 18:23 [#01050032]
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pretty weird...i'd probably punch you if you'd be touching me.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-01-26 18:23 [#01050034]
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you're weird
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2004-01-26 18:23 [#01050035]
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ditto
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-01-26 18:24 [#01050036]
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yeah dude right in the grill
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-01-26 18:31 [#01050047]
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by touching i meen shaking hands or something like that, not touching on intimate places...if i shake your hands you will punch me? that's what i call weird
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-01-26 18:33 [#01050049]
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i'd bite you
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-01-26 18:41 [#01050057]
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bite me!
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-01-26 18:44 [#01050061]
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now i'd punch you
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-01-26 18:53 [#01050074]
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bite me and punch me? you're an agressive type roygbivcore, they should tie you down or something.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2004-01-26 19:24 [#01050122]
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he likes that too
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2004-01-26 19:25 [#01050124]
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but yeah, you shake my hand I'd punch you too.
who gave you permission to touch me?
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2004-01-26 19:25 [#01050126]
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sounds like a mild celebrity fetish. you have difficulty accepting your self worth. you seek validation by contact with celebrities so that in your own mind (and perhaps others) you seem special or less ordinary. very common, but it's worth some introspection on your part.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2004-01-26 19:28 [#01050131]
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Dr. Plaidzebra is: IN
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-01-26 19:30 [#01050134]
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you're missing the fun/game/sport part i guess; it's not so easy touching them, it's not like you walk on stage touch them and walk back to the crowd, most of the times you've to try going backstage or get passed a lot off people who are in the way, etc
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2004-01-26 19:51 [#01050169]
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i certainly can appreciate that you enjoy making a game of the process, and that the game is fun, challenging, exciting, etc. however, i'm concerned with your motivations in particular. i think you are transferring your motivation to the pleasure of the game in order to deny your difficulty accepting yourself as worthy and valid as a person, and rationalizing your decision to engage in that behavior.
in addition, i note that you've gone out of your way to seek validation for your behavior on the message board. you seem to want people to tell you it's ok to do what you're doing. i'm perfectly willing to tell you it's ok, but i think that you should take the time to consider these issues and reflect on your own motivation for not only the behavior, but also for seeking acceptance for the behavior here.
since you asked...
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-01-26 20:04 [#01050179]
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shrug, is it that you need to touch them, or just meet them?
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-01-26 20:08 [#01050181]
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Hmmm, i shook hands with bogdan raczynski in a club toilet (and tried to sell him records by post because i was very, very fucked).
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2004-01-26 20:10 [#01050183]
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and that session of psycho-analysis will be $200
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2004-01-26 20:11 [#01050184]
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actually, crazone gets his for free. however, if you'd like to see your analysis, blatant echo, i accept paypal and cash.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-01-26 23:28 [#01050242]
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well thank you for your very psychological analysis of my crazy brains who are in the first place the main reason of my human behavior, then again i think you are transferring your motivation (to write me this very long reply wich should have only given me the answer to my question "am i kindda of a groupie or not,") into my shoes, what would FREUD say about that?
To the pleasure of the game, in order to deny your difficulty; I won't go deeper into that difficulty cause the main answer for that is accepting yourself as worthy and valid as a person, and
after rationalizing i can now give you one advice: don't try being the therapist when you're not, cause it can lead you into depts that you've never heard off before. But as you've asked me to reflect my behaviour i can now say: i was bored at work; a treath about RDJ being attractive to women led me to the question; what's the difference between the behaviour of a groupie and my own behaviour. There are in my opinion big differences, f.i.: I don't scream, don't throw my panty's, etc. I only want to touch them as in a game; touching them is like getting the bonuspoints for the night.....so: game on
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-01-26 23:30 [#01050244]
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meet them instead of touching them
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-01-26 23:31 [#01050246]
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when I think about you I touch myself
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-01-26 23:34 [#01050249]
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i'd get in a fight with blatantecho cause we both need to toughen up
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-01-26 23:35 [#01050250]
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XXxxxXXXxxx HAHA FAGGET U R NOT @N INTERNET TOUGH GUY xxXXxxxXXxxx
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celloncllone
from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2004-01-27 06:05 [#01050487]
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but ur shaking their hands in order to fulfill your "touch" fetish...not shaking hands out of respect....phh, sicko
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-27 06:09 [#01050492]
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what the fuck plaidzebra is an idiot
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celloncllone
from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2004-01-27 06:11 [#01050495]
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someone has low self-worth...hahahaha so do most of us....so let's quit jabbering about it
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tunemx
from Budapest (Hungary) on 2004-01-27 06:13 [#01050498]
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once i touched Dave Gahan's towel...
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-01-27 06:50 [#01050543]
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I'm a total groupie. I always wanna get back stage =o)
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-01-27 10:04 [#01050745]
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thank god i'm not the only one =)
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2004-01-27 10:28 [#01050786]
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crazone, i replied *since you asked*. it seems a little presumptuous to speak of me being lead into depths i've never heard of; you don't know me at all. my comments were not particularly freudian, and if the posts were too long for you you were not compelled to read them. do what you will with my comments, but don't complain about having gotten what you asked for. i answered your question "groupie vs idiot" clearly, though not explicitly. and yet you yourself called your behavior a "strange need."
horsefactory, if you can articulate a coherent description of my "idiocy" without stringing together a series of pointless insults, i'd like to hear it. i am who i am, and i refuse to pretend otherwise to satisfy an angry, immature teenager such as yourself.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-01-27 12:55 [#01051016]
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plaidzebra you said "i think you are transferring your motivation
to the pleasure of the game in order to deny your difficulty
accepting yourself as worthy and valid as a person, and rationalizing your decision to engage in that behavior."
I took that as an insult; I love myself : i don't have diffuculties finding myself wothy and valid a person, therapists who talk like that are not doing the wright thing,me as a person is exploring this world what also includes discovering new bounderies, wich is very healthy, trying to meet/speek/ talk to the artists i'm seeing at a gig is one of the exploring tasks of me as a person, meeting new people, esspecialy creative great artists, gives me the insight of how they think/feel/live/etc, i learn from that experiences, not as person who feels himself not worthy or valid but as a person who's getting the best out of his life...
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Q4Z2X
on 2004-01-27 13:51 [#01051060]
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when you shake one of their hands you should keep your thumb pressed closely up to your palm/index finger.
it's hilarious.. they don't know where to put their hand/thumb and it feels extremely awkward.
try it, you may like it.!
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2004-01-27 22:37 [#01051544]
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crazone, you were the one who expressed concern about your behavior. you called it a "strange need," which suggests a compulsion that you don't entirely understand. also, you seemed to be seeking validation from people, soliciting a response like "everyone wants to meet/touch celebrities, it's ok." in my opinion, this suggests that there is some conflict in your mind about this.
i'm sincerely sorry if you felt insulted, i just happened to read your query, and responded in a way that i hoped was objective and would potentially be helpful or at the very least food for thought. again, anyone can accept or reject anyone's opinion; however casually, you asked for my anyone's opinion and i gave mine, not out of any desire to "play therapist" but to respond genuinely and forthrightly.
i did not intend to put you on the defensive. for however i may have misread you, i ask your forgiveness. i deliberately avoided communicating any judgement of rightness or wrongness in my response, because i honestly don't believe that you are right or wrong. you make your own happiness.
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