|
|
uzim
on 2004-01-26 05:56 [#01049105]
Points: 17716 Status: Lurker
|
|
are high frequencies (and by "high", i mean higher than ventolin... piercing sounds!) very dangerous for your ears? or is just loud listening volumes that can seriously damage them? ' _ '
|
|
Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-01-26 05:58 [#01049108]
Points: 35867 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
the only thing that can damage your ears are sudden bursts of sound. if the sound is more or less constant, (almost) nothing will be damaged. it won't hurt you to listen to high-pitched sounds at a low volume, but don't do it too much, as that will hurt your speakers.
|
|
uzim
on 2004-01-26 06:07 [#01049116]
Points: 17716 Status: Lurker
|
|
ok.. thanks (i'm listening on headphones btw =))
the reason why i'm asking is because my ears get a little bit numb after the high-pitched sounds.
|
|
Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-01-26 06:11 [#01049119]
Points: 14042 Status: Lurker | Followup to Drunken Mastah: #01049108
|
|
so youre saying a fog horn, being held for 5 mins next to your ear, wont do damage?
uzim: loud sounds, especially high frequencies, will definately damage your ears. be careful with headphones
|
|
Clic
on 2004-01-26 06:12 [#01049122]
Points: 5232 Status: Regular | Followup to Zeus: #01049119
|
|
Yeah, I don't know where you're getting your info, Mastah, but you're wrong.
|
|
Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-01-26 06:13 [#01049123]
Points: 35867 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
yeah, that's because there may be more frequencies than what you bargained for. too high that you hear them, but they still get processed in your brain. these frequencies will just make you dizzy or numb. also: after listening to lots of sound, your ears may get ringy for a while, but that should stop after a while. just to make sure, take pauses while making music. if you experience "dampened" sound, it is your brain compensating for all the noise with some quiet.
|
|
Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-01-26 06:14 [#01049125]
Points: 35867 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
the info came from some medical program on NRK1.
|
|
Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-01-26 06:14 [#01049126]
Points: 14042 Status: Lurker | Followup to Drunken Mastah: #01049123
|
|
huh?
|
|
Bob Mcbob
on 2004-01-26 06:15 [#01049127]
Points: 9939 Status: Regular
|
|
high frequesncys can damage your ears? id better cancel my order for those HFO cds
|
|
Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-01-26 06:21 [#01049132]
Points: 35867 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
NRK1(the main tv-channel) had a series of medical programs about lots of different topics. one of them was about damaged ears (tinnitus or something? or am i mixing?) and musical artists who had their ears damaged. the reason they had their ears damaged, were the drums. drums have short, sharp sounds, and drumming without ear-protection will damage your ears. high-pitched sine-waves, for example, will not. why do you think they use them when they are testing your hearing? it's not because they want to damage your ears, at least...
|
|
Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-01-26 06:27 [#01049139]
Points: 35867 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
but just to be safe, keep it at a low level. i've never actually trusted doctors...
|
|
azatoth233
from tku (Finland) on 2004-01-26 06:31 [#01049143]
Points: 387 Status: Regular
|
|
listening to loud sound will damage your ears..whatever the frequency is..
|
|
Clic
on 2004-01-26 06:33 [#01049150]
Points: 5232 Status: Regular | Followup to azatoth233: #01049143
|
|
End of story.
|
|
uzim
on 2004-01-26 06:34 [#01049155]
Points: 17716 Status: Lurker
|
|
hmm °_°
i asked my father who is a geriatrist about it, he said that only loud sounds would damage, no matter how high-pitched it is... another different advice
well anyway i'd better not take any risks and not listen to it too often.
i'm not listening to it loud anyway.
|
|
Clic
on 2004-01-26 06:35 [#01049156]
Points: 5232 Status: Regular | Followup to Drunken Mastah: #01049132
|
|
The way you put it before made it sound like if someone were to drop a baking pan in a concrete room, you'd sustain damage. That doesn't happen.
And as for headphones, audiologists say that they're one of the main causes tinnitus and noise-induced hearing loss.
Uzim: Just keep it at a reasonable volume, don't listen for hours on end, and you should be fine. Ears are just extremely delicate, unfortunately.
|
|
Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-01-26 06:37 [#01049157]
Points: 35867 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
then you should be okay, no matter what. we should all wear protective gear when listening to music.
just think: first of all, it seems to influence our lives so much that we are inclined to kill just because we listened to it (bowling for columbine: marilyn manson).
second, it can damage your ears
third, it can make you have lots of sinful sex without being married, and WITH protection, god forbid.
fourth, you'll eventually die.
|
|
Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-01-26 06:42 [#01049161]
Points: 16982 Status: Regular | Followup to Drunken Mastah: #01049157 | Show recordbag
|
|
#4 is the kicker
|
|
Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-01-26 06:42 [#01049163]
Points: 14042 Status: Lurker | Followup to Drunken Mastah: #01049157
|
|
...
.
|
|
dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-26 09:20 [#01049331]
Points: 3372 Status: Lurker
|
|
High pitched industrial noise is more damaging than 'music' of a comparable volume. The frequency doesn't matter, as much as the timbre, or colour, call it what you will. Basically the complexity can cause more damage, since high pitched industrial sounds contain lots of high pitched harmonics and partials, whereas a highpitched clean sine tone of the same frequency, will only have the fundamental, and perhaps a 2nd harmonic at a very low level, like -70 or -80 dbc (decibels from carrier). The harmonically richer industrial high pitched sound causes more damage to the ear, but I don't know medically why, but I can guess its due to excess resonance due to the higher frequency harmonics.
So i suppose there must be a frequency (possibly ultrasonic) which will damage the eardrum the most, by resonance.
|
|
hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2004-01-26 09:27 [#01049338]
Points: 8833 Status: Regular
|
|
finding the resonance frequency of your eardrums would deafen you almost immediately, considering when hearing sounds how many times a second your eardrum is vibrating, and with the resonance it increases each cycle.
|
|
dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-26 09:40 [#01049349]
Points: 3372 Status: Lurker | Followup to hedphukkerr: #01049338
|
|
Yes, it would deafen you very quickly, so I don't recommend you try it, if you do though, post the results of the experiment, so some clever 'artist' can record it into their new track.
Perhaps I didnt make it clear earlier, but harmonically rich waveforms are square waves, triangle, and saw tooth etc. it is clear that a sawtooth wave will cause more damage than a sine wave, considering the eardrum movement will reflect the waveform's shape. so a sine has a gentle transition, but a square wave or triange has more sudden and therefore more damaging transition, and industrial noise is full of sqaure, saws and triangles, etc.
|
|
xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2004-01-26 09:43 [#01049354]
Points: 4904 Status: Regular
|
|
You can listen to a tone generator go all the way up past what humans can hear. It gets higher and higher and eventually just fades out...very cool. We hear less of the higher frequencies as we age.
|
|
Messageboard index
|