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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2004-01-22 21:29 [#01045116]
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I just switched to mozilla. but it seemed slow as shit! so i dled and installed firebird; which is fast as shit (it seems like a mozilla lite), but i don't understand how to install the plugins (flash in particular). I dl it with firebird, but it installs on mozilla.
wtf?
anyhelp would be appreciated; as well as any other tips on how to my my firebird exp. r0x0rz!
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Labium Sweat
from United States on 2004-01-22 21:31 [#01045122]
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Its pretty tough installing the plug-ins, I wouldn't suggest it.
I would suggest keeping Internet Explorer or whatever browser you normally use, and just use Firebird for sites that don't require plug ins.
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2004-01-22 21:33 [#01045125]
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how can i learn how to use the software if i'm switching through out IE and mozilla?!
can you give me a few sources on how to install this on firebird?
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Labium Sweat
from United States on 2004-01-22 21:37 [#01045130]
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I have no idea, all I know is that I tried to install them following the directions
click here
it seems to me that Mozilla Firebird is an unuserfriendly piece of trash.
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2004-01-22 21:45 [#01045136]
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i have no idea what any of you are talking about. i also read what could be considered 7% of the content in this topic up until my posting.
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2004-01-22 21:50 [#01045137]
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firebirdddddddddddddddddddddd
firebirdddddddddddddddddddd!!!!!!!!!!!
best. browser. ever.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-01-22 22:50 [#01045148]
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You should have a plugin folder in your Mozilla directory in your program files directory. This contains DLLs and shit that you can copy into your Firebird plugins folder. Then everything will work.
It's not that Firebird isn't user friendly, it's just that the folks who make plugins don't yet program their installers to look for Firebird directories and install there.
BTW I'm using Mozilla and it's plenty fast. Then again I have a fairly fast computer.
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2004-01-22 23:09 [#01045149]
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I would suggest keeping Internet Explorer or whatever browser you normally use, and just use Firebird for sites that don't require plug ins.
I suggest you drop IE nonetheless.
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blowfield
on 2004-01-23 00:13 [#01045184]
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i am satisfied with mozilla. to switch from ie to mozilla is pretty uncomfortable, but when you get accustomed to, you will love it. The only shit is that some pages are "made" for IE and mo cannot show them fine or (from the websites i am using only one) is not running with mozilla, only IE, so don't uninstall this shit, keep it. as far as i know win xp you cannot uninstall it because its part of xp.
you will love tab-browsing and the other features mozilla has, in contrast to redmond bug explorer.
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2004-01-23 00:40 [#01045210]
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IE = crap I've tried firebird and I don't really like it, so I'm stuck with Opera, whom I love dearly
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2004-01-23 00:40 [#01045211]
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microsoft are due for a bomb browser, i bet they'll release a badass update to ie soon
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2004-01-23 00:42 [#01045213]
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no wait,
best. browser. ever.
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2004-01-23 00:43 [#01045215]
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as if. far as I know, they won't be updating IE anymore, until they release their new OS Longhorn in which the browser will be 100% integrated with the operating system.
besides, microsoft releases updates several times a month, to fix their leaking pile of shit-IE browser
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-01-23 00:53 [#01045219]
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I mainly use IE6, but I also have Avant Browser installed, which is Ok, but I don't like the way it deals with multiple windows. You might want to try it though. I'm all for a browser that is 100% integrated into the OS, should be good.
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tunemx
from Budapest (Hungary) on 2004-01-23 01:00 [#01045221]
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Things talking for Firebird:
- Popup blocking - tabs - extensions - customization - smart search - ligth-weightness
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-01-23 01:07 [#01045227]
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Why do people say IE is shit....I mean I use it....there is nothing wrong with it, I don't get problems?
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-23 01:35 [#01045241]
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Apart from multiple popups that download shite onto your computer when I send you those "specialist" links :P
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2004-01-23 01:45 [#01045249]
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I know what I think about IE after using it for several years and learning whats going on behind the curtains
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-01-23 01:46 [#01045250]
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To install things like java you need to update the registry... I'm not going to go find the link, but it's on the firebird site, check the forums for more useful information
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inkey
from urgato (United States) on 2004-01-23 02:32 [#01045279]
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Microsoft SUCKS! Isn't that enough reason not to use Internut Explorer?!?
I mean, besides the fact that Microsoft routinely uses spyware in almost every piece of software they make, everything is super buggy and crashes all the time....Oh and it SUCKS!
FUCK MICROSOFT.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-01-23 03:41 [#01045323]
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i suggest you use blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahlbsdflkgerlgfsl!
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-01-23 05:42 [#01045489]
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I mean, besides the fact that Microsoft routinely uses spyware in almost every piece of software they make
....explain. I'm not sure where you have gotten this information from.
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-01-23 05:42 [#01045490]
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To Inkey, that was directed at.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-01-23 05:52 [#01045504]
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windows media player 9 contains spyware. without you knowing or asking it will send data from your computer to their database informing them of certain statistics including usage, which files you use etc
IE6 is shocking. apart from the fact this is an update of an update of an update which makes the whole thing rather unstable, when you think you are deleteing temporary files and history, it ISN'T doing it. there are hidden files on your computer (hidden meaning 'show all files' still won't show them) which you have no idea about.
from just one of these files i would be able to tell you every website you've ever visited and what you've typed in your search engine.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-01-23 05:55 [#01045505]
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if you're familiar with dos, try finding these files because you won't be able to find them in windows, but i can assure you they do exist:
c:\windows\history\history.ie5\index.dat c:\windows\tempor~1\content.ie5\index.dat
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-01-23 05:56 [#01045506]
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btw even if you can find the directory they are stored in even dos will not show it as existing if you do a directory search.
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2004-01-23 05:57 [#01045510]
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did you copy and past that from a previous post of mine? hehe
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2004-01-23 05:57 [#01045511]
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and btw, they can be found in windows.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-01-23 06:00 [#01045514]
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no. did you copy it from me? :)
i continue to post this info all the time, if people aren't interested and want hackers to know all details about them its up to them really. at least i can say 'well i did warn you'.
there's no excuse for using IE anymore apart from laziness.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-01-23 06:02 [#01045515]
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how can you access those files in windows? the subdirectories are invisible!
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-23 06:04 [#01045516]
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Is this the thing?
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2004-01-23 06:07 [#01045519]
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I keep telling people that too :) it seems we're on the same mission.
here's a screenshot
needless to say, there are individual content.ie5 folders for each user on a nt system
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2004-01-23 06:07 [#01045521]
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yep
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-23 06:09 [#01045523]
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I've always seen that to my knowledge. No fiddling needed.
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2004-01-23 06:11 [#01045526]
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I had some difficulties finding it under win2k.
if you can't find it using Explorer, just use and alternative filebrowser, such as the ACDSee image viewer.
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2004-01-23 06:14 [#01045530]
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however, the real problem are those index.dat files; they can't be edited or deleted, unless you use a hex editor and physically edit each input in the file by hand. and mind you, that file is LARGE in a hex editor, so good luck :)
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-01-23 06:17 [#01045533]
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they can be deleted in dos, with a clean boot, i.e., no windows loaded
sorry im not familiar with xp, only older versions of windows
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-01-23 06:18 [#01045534]
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if you delete them, windows will automatically create a new one on a reboot, but at least you've got rid of all the info
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-01-23 06:21 [#01045539]
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back to installing plug-ins with mozilla. couldnt be easier. mormally if you need a plug-in you'll be prompted when you need it. with flash, the screen will come up as "plug-in needed" with a jigsaw pice sign. just click on that and follow the steps. you don't even need to save the file to disk, just choose 'open' and the rest will be done for you.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-01-23 07:10 [#01045625]
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firebird is totally awesome. best web browser hands down.
the little integrated search bar is amazing. i use that fvcker all the time. great idea. nothing like being able to search imdb with no clicks.
here's a little help installing plug-ins.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-01-23 07:18 [#01045635]
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i just have to re-iterated how much i can't stand IE. for the myriad of reasons listed above and a few others, namely it's downright shoddy handling of css. that archaic peice of shit makes designing for the web so much more a pain in the ass. and microsoft's refusal to fully support transparent PNGs is really making everyones experience on the web quite a bit less pretty than it could be.
peeps stuck using IE think it's a fine browser because you've never seen the light. you're still surfing the web in 1999.
come to the bright side. firebird makes the internet fun again.
*crickets*
*steps down of soapbox* *kicks rock* *goes home*
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-23 07:59 [#01045672]
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I'm using 2k :)
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Bob Mcbob
on 2004-01-23 08:02 [#01045680]
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i thought mozilla was an italian cheese, and a firebird was some kind of dragon. after reading the title of this thread, i must say the rest was a big disappointment.
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tunemx
from Budapest (Hungary) on 2004-02-09 06:37 [#01065346]
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Firebird is renamed to Firefox!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-02-09 06:45 [#01065351]
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Heh, just saw that on Slashdot. Now they'll get sued by someone else and keep changing the name until it's SmolderToad or InfernoPoodle.
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big
from lsg on 2004-02-09 06:48 [#01065352]
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yeah i use it, because the dude i bought the pc from had it installed, i guess its better because its not microsoft but dont see any difference with ie, if only cause i dont know how to use that search window (maybe type in it..?) or know the advantage of tabs (i open everthing just in new windows)
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big
from lsg on 2004-02-09 06:50 [#01065353]
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firefox is this great movie and videogame 'think russian', right?
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