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offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-22 02:56 [#01043744]
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Nintendo has announced the launch of a double-screened
handheld gaming gadget, codenamed Nintendo DS.
Nintendo said it would give gamers "a unique entertainment
experience for the 21st century."

The three-inch screens are held in the palm and are supposed
to give players two different views of a game.

It is due to hit the global gaming world by Christmas 2004,
and more details are expected at May's Electronic
Entertainment Expo (E3).

Change of perspective

"We have developed Nintendo DS based upon a completely
different concept from existing game devices," said Satoru
Iwata, Nintendo president.

As such, it is not meant to be a successor to its highly
successful GameBoy Advance, which already dominates the
handheld gaming market.

There are no pictures of the device yet, but the gaming
gadget is expected to be demonstrated at E3 in Los Angeles.



The GameBoy Advance dominates the handheld market
It will have separate processors and up to 1Gb of memory.

The TFT LCD screens on the temporarily named Nintendo DS are
about the same size as the GBA displays and can be held
separately. They are designed to allow players to focus on
different characters or parts of the game.

By keeping an eye on each screen, gamers will be able to
play without interruption when they wish to change what they
want to see.

In a fighting game, for instance, players can shift from
what the character is doing on one screen to a map of the
environment on the other.

Nintendo will develop game titles for its new gadget, but it
is also in discussions with third party game developers
around the world.

The GameBoy Advance and GameBoy Advance SP had a good year
in 2003, with a 33% increase on sales from the previous
year.

But other big names are due to hit the handheld market in
the coming year, including Sony, which plans to launch its
PSP handheld by the end of 2004.

Nintendo said it was also working on successors to the
GameBoy Advance and GameCube



 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-22 02:58 [#01043746]
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Not that I really care, but I thought some of you might.


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-01-22 03:05 [#01043754]
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Can it like my balls?


 

offline str_ph from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-22 03:05 [#01043755]
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The idea of having two screens is interesting in term of
game design. Now the gaming industry is so much focused on
'entertainement' vs 'game play' ; I don't expect the games
to be ground-breaking. Most likely some
animated/pre-rendered screens on top-screen and the actual
game screen below. Well you will maybe have the possibility
to look at your opponent's screen if you play vs games or
have a world-map for strategy games...


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2004-01-22 03:47 [#01043785]
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I'd like to see a pic of that :\


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-22 03:53 [#01043792]
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The first game will probably be "Best of Game & Watch"


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-01-22 03:57 [#01043794]
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I <3 yavo!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-01-22 04:05 [#01043802]
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Yes, I was going to say, this is old news, we had these back
in the 80s.

I predict a flop, Virtual Boy stylee. Your casual gamer
tends not to like "gimmicky" systems...


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-22 04:17 [#01043810]
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This sounds fun!

If they make it powerful enough you could do some great
stealth games with it. Using the second screen for viewing
cameras you've setup :D


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-01-22 04:21 [#01043811]
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I was wondering if paul f, ceri, giginger, yavo + emma could
come to the nash this sunday night to celebrate me
birthday?

kthnxbye


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-22 04:26 [#01043813]
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Unfortunately that's the day of my flower arranging class -
usually I would cancel but we're tackling tulips this
weekend. However there is a pint in the post to ya!


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-01-22 04:53 [#01043819]
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Heres to ya buddy! ;)

*clink*


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-22 05:19 [#01043842]
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I'll be a bit late but will Friday 5th March @ 17:10 suffice
mate?


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2004-01-22 05:55 [#01043884]
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This months NGC magazine had pics of the new handheld
controller that is an N64 essentially, you simply plug it
into the front of the TV. Looks cool.


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2004-01-22 06:25 [#01043924]
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I'll scan the pic, and post it later on


 

offline uzim on 2004-01-22 07:57 [#01043997]
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Jedi Chris > pictures & screenshots =)


 

offline uzim on 2004-01-22 08:01 [#01043998]
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the design of it (the iQue) is weird... not
Nintendo-like...

about that Gameboy DS, i'm just a little pissed with all
those new portable Nintendo systems coming out every two or
three years ' _ '

i'd have bought a GBA SP if it wasn't that expensive (and i
don't know if it's that ergonomic with this little size and
itty-bitty L and R triggers, though i like the design of the
machine a lot... ^^)


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-22 08:03 [#01044002]
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Oh! I just remembered. Probably Chris can answer this best -
my mate is looking to get a Rom card/flashcard thingymebob
for his GB SP - is there a reliable place online to get them
at a decent price, and what's the best to go for?


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2004-01-22 08:08 [#01044004]
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I want to know that too...

Are there any pictures anywhere of the new one Jar?


 

offline pOgO from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-01-22 08:11 [#01044007]
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I was just about to make this exact same thread


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2004-01-22 08:13 [#01044008]
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that penguin game was mentioned on Radio 1 today!


 

offline child810 from boston (United States) on 2004-01-22 08:19 [#01044012]
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They said that the two screens were just one of the big
features. I'm sure it will conect to the Cube and probably
the Advance and SP.

I hate we have to wait until E3 to get any details.


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-22 08:22 [#01044015]
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Nope, first viewings at E3... in March(?)


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-22 08:23 [#01044017]
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May

And DAMN YOU Jivverdicker for reminding me of the bloody
penguin game!


 

offline Amnesiac from ERIE (United States) on 2004-01-22 08:39 [#01044024]
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an hour of virtual boy makes you question whether or not
you'll keep your vision.


 

offline pOgO from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-01-22 08:41 [#01044026]
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haha

was it !

It'll take over the world one day, it's soooooo adictive


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2004-01-22 09:36 [#01044052]
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Ceri got one for his original GBA (not SP) and he got it
online from a company called Liksang, if I recall. I'll
email him this thread, and he can post a bit more about it.
Although the one he bought doesn't fit the GBA SP, 'cos of a
plastic lip on it. They do, do others and much better ones
now......so I'll get Ceri to post the info you need.



 

offline Jedi Chris on 2004-01-22 09:39 [#01044055]
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Thanks Uzim!

This is for those who can't be bothered to click the link...
:P


Attached picture

 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-22 09:44 [#01044058]
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Nice one Chris. What the fuck is that iQue exactly?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-01-22 09:46 [#01044061]
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Hi mate, yes, I bought one from lik sang a couple of years
ago, but due to a court case, they no longer carry them.

Sorry to pass the buck again, but pomme de terre bought one
that fits the sp and the normal gba recently.


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2004-01-22 09:49 [#01044064]
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A Nintendo handheld thing like that Atari thing you can
buy....basically it just plugs into the TV.


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-22 09:52 [#01044068]
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OK, cheers Ceri :)

Chris: Any word on what it actually plays? Is it NES, SNES
or 64 era stuff, for example?


 

offline uzim on 2004-01-22 09:58 [#01044074]
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n64 era.


 

offline afxNUMB from So.Flo on 2004-01-22 10:21 [#01044100]
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hmmm


 

offline afxNUMB from So.Flo on 2004-01-22 10:21 [#01044103]
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I'm still stuck fighting SA-X ( bad Samus) in Metroid
Fusion. I dont know how to kill that BITCH!


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2004-01-22 10:26 [#01044106]
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I'll scan the articles afterwards, and email them to you as
JPEGS and you can read it for yourself. Is that OK?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-01-22 10:27 [#01044109]
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There's new GBA metroid out imminently :)


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-22 10:30 [#01044111]
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Splendid, thankee-sai. :)


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-01-23 02:26 [#01045273]
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"This is it, the 'thing' they've all been talking about -
a brand new dual-screen Nintendo handheld console! Two
screens!
The rumours and continuing speculation over Nintendo's big
new hardware announcement can finally be put to bed, as
they've revealed details for a brand new handheld console -
with two TFT LCD screens. Going under the codename Nintendo
DS, this brand new portable handheld will feature two
separate 3" TFT LCD display panels, along with separate
processors and semiconductor memory of up to 1GB. The
Nintendo DS is scheduled to launch worldwide before the end
of 2004 - this means there'll be a full-scale handheld war
between the NDS and the Sony PSP.

Nintendo big cheese Saturo Iwata elaborates: "We have
developed Nintendo DS based upon a completely different
concept from existing game devices in order to provide
players with a unique entertainment experience for the 21st
century." You can't argue with that - innovation, thy name
is Nintendo. The console will be fully revealed at E3 in May
this year so hopefully we'll be able to see our first
glimpse of what the NDS has to offer. The screens will be
backlit and flushed vertically together, one above the
other.

So exactly what benefit will having two separate screens
give you? According to Nintendo's press release, this'll
allow you to manage your game progress from two different
perspectives. Example - you're playing an RPG, and instead
of pausing the game to access the World Map, it's right
there on the other screen. Likewise your inventory. Another
example - you're playing the latest Metal Gear Solid game,
and rather than have the radar taking up valuable space,
it's beeping away happily on its own screen. The Nintendo DS
could open a wealth of possibilities for game designers -
gamers will now be able to manage two lots of game info at
once.

But does this mean goodbye Game Boy? At present it's not
clear whether the Nintendo DS is being prepped as a
successor to the GBA, but the press release made it clear
that


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-01-23 02:29 [#01045275]
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But does this mean goodbye Game Boy? At present it's not
clear whether the Nintendo DS is being prepped as a
successor to the GBA, but the press release made it clear
that it would be marketed separately from existing Nintendo
products. It's difficult to tell where the NDS will lie in
the grand scheme of things without a good look under its
bonnet. If the two products are to co-exist on the market,
then we're looking at two possibilities; either the NDS is a
superior machine and the GBA SP will suffer a price drop, or
the GBA SP will continue to be Nintendo's handheld of choice
while the NDS takes the role of a budget model, offering
innovative gaming to the masses. Something to ponder indeed.


Nintendo have been putting the feelers out for the Nintendo
DS, and are already holding discussions with third-party
developers about complementing their own first-party
software. While the announcement itself was little more than
an thinly-shaded outline of what to expect, the Nintendo DS
could revolutionise the way we think about handheld gaming
and the possibilities are potentially massive. Quite how a
dual-screen handheld will look we're currently unsure, and
the aesthetics of such a beast boggle the mind. We can see
two sets of visuals flashing concurrently becoming something
of a headache, and perhaps a concern for the World Epilepsy
Council. But then, even the PSP has potential design flaws.


Things are interesting again. Nintendo have responded to the
claims that Sony's multi-functional PSP would be the final
nail in their coffin with something that is exciting,
intriguing and genuinely original. Whether or not Nintendo
will still be fighting their cause in ten years time is
still up for debate, but one thing's for sure - at least
they're fighting."


My main problem with it stems from the fact that with a
handheld, you're likely to be using it on a bus/train or
whatever. If the screens are seperate, you may not be able
to attach the screen you're not holding -presumably, (most
of) the co


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-01-23 02:29 [#01045276]
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(most of) the controls will be on one screen- to anything or
balance it in sight. It's hard enough using a GBA SP as the
PDA in GC/GBA link up Splinter Cell, where you have the
luxury of a big screen that is not attached to the
controller and also tables/ stools etc. to put the GBA on.

Hopefully, nintendo will do something genius to rectify this
potential problem.

On the subject of handhelds, the N-gauge doesn't seem to be
taking, despite its flashy marketing, does it?


 

offline str_ph from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-23 03:01 [#01045294]
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DS = Double Screen

I just figured it out 10 minutes ago. I had to share it with
you. What a smart monkey I am :)


 


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