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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-01-17 16:29 [#01038450]
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i just came back from a party where the dj played a live set from his laptop stuffed with ableton live.
i loved the set. it was really cool, but i still don't know what to think about it. i mean if he had it prerecorded and played in winamp nobody would notice it anyway....
i mean you never know how much the dj worked on that set.
does it influence you if you go to a concert, that you know he's playing from vinyls/laptop ?
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staplemouth
on 2004-01-17 16:31 [#01038454]
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i dont know, i may be a little dissapointed if it was jsut "played", but if something creative/interesting was done with it it would be cool, its hard to say tho, it depends.
btw sadist, do you still want that track??
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-17 16:32 [#01038457]
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not really, i just enjoy the music.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-01-17 16:34 [#01038465]
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of course i want it. just being busy lately.
i mean you never now how much he was creative ?
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-01-17 16:36 [#01038467]
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ableton live is bomb. it is the most truely real time sequencer i've encountered. you'd be surprised how much tweaking and shit you can do on the fly. specially if you got a midi controler with a lot of knobs.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-17 16:36 [#01038468]
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if they play music that keeps me interested, means that they're creative enough :)
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-01-17 16:38 [#01038469]
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you can tweak effects, time strech, "scratch", crossfade, change tempo, all in real time with no glitching (if your cpu is fast enough)
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-01-17 16:39 [#01038473]
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but you never know how much he is playing live and how much he just tweaked at home. i must say that he had a LOT patterns ready on the screen.
he was using just a mouse but he was doing quite good.
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staplemouth
on 2004-01-17 16:43 [#01038477]
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sometimes i mind if its all predone, but if the music gets you off then its ok i suppose. As long as people have a good time :)
and sadist: jsut email me when you want it or whatever ( email in my profile ) :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-17 16:44 [#01038479]
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i think the majority of them all have prerecorded music, in the live performance they just add effects , change tempo...or perhaps i just had bad luck not seeing someone do the "real" thing live.
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-01-17 16:53 [#01038486]
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Good question, but I don't think it effect me, just because I don't know,.and who cares/knows after all?
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APeSHiTZ
from ¤BANgbANG¤ on 2004-01-17 16:54 [#01038487]
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I run the laptop thru tha kaos pad and add fx, i mess with analog and with cool edit i'll change some part of the track ahead of time,.. and project nes games off my nesticle emulator for visual aid.,.,
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-01-17 16:56 [#01038493]
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what i mean is - when i see someone os playing from vinyl, then i see every his move, juggling the records, pitching etc. i KNOW he's doing it live, and i KNOW how much work there is in it.
when he's sitting behind a screen with a mouse in his hand i know nothing...
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APeSHiTZ
from ¤BANgbANG¤ on 2004-01-17 16:58 [#01038496]
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yeah i know .,. when i first decided i was gonna start out using laptops i made it clear in my head that itd just be beats and fx and then i'd do samples and other fx on other peices.. i think just computerscreen and mouse makes it really really boring ....
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-01-17 16:59 [#01038497]
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just enjoy!
I know what you mean, and ofcourse its much more difficult to mix the records "realtime" , but it's the music that count isn't it?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-17 16:59 [#01038499]
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i see what you mean. i recommend you just enjoy the music and dance, so you won't have to look at the artist. at least this is what i do :)
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-01-17 16:59 [#01038500]
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seeing you live i don't know how much you do live....
i mean i see that you're messin around with your kaoss pad but whatever...
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-01-17 17:00 [#01038502]
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oh mate ! since i mixed together dwo lp's (about half a year know), since then i just cannot dance and enjoy music anymore.... just concentrating on the dj...
that's fucking disturbing !!
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APeSHiTZ
from ¤BANgbANG¤ on 2004-01-17 17:01 [#01038503]
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would light fx and a few projektor screens help u out?
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blowfield
on 2004-01-17 17:01 [#01038504]
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if the recorded set he/she is playing is prepared by him/her then it is totally okay, i think. The step from a dj set with turntables to a dj set on a laptop involves this harddisk playing, and we have to get accustomed to that, because it is becoming more and more important i think. Sure it is not the same to be on a party where the dj is setting the music live, and a party he is just playing a record of a dj set he made 3 weeks ago, maybe recorded from another party, but if the set is kickin and is suitable for the certain party you are, then I don't mind
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APeSHiTZ
from ¤BANgbANG¤ on 2004-01-17 17:03 [#01038507]
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well i wanna get the kaospad for video so i can make some kickass music video to go along with the set. and mix video to the music ...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-17 17:03 [#01038508]
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ok...that is disturbing. i'd rather go see a nice girl or a movie in that case :)
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b0nk
from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2004-01-17 22:47 [#01038847]
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i was at a "sweet 16" party for my cousin and the dj was playing records and also had alaptop running what looked like winamp. i thought it was funny. it wasn't a club type dj though
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-01-17 22:53 [#01038855]
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i don't respect a guy if he's playing other peoples songs on his computer
but like doormouse does his shit on a computer live and he fucking puts a lot of energy into his shows
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-01-17 23:13 [#01038872]
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PigeonSt
from Detroit on 2004-01-18 00:47 [#01038921]
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theoretically, the more "live" a performer is playing, the more they can cater to what the crowd is feeling
that's the only advantage in my eyes.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-01-18 06:11 [#01039009]
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hey that's right. didn't think about that.
on another messageboard someone told me that he's playing records for himself... and he wouldn't get any satisfaction if he would play from winamp <-- good point
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fsk
from london (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-18 06:43 [#01039019]
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im a live user, and its not as easy as u think, u dont just put tracks on a list and go, u do have to time when to bring stuff in and u do have to slow samples up or down in order to mix i into the previous track/loop/clip. Then u can add fx to them, u dont need anything more than a mouse. And u do realise dj's prepare their sets at home or studio before they go and perform.
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-01-18 11:19 [#01039232]
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who the fuck cares.....
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-01-18 11:26 [#01039238]
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oh come on mate... why should we discuss things from another mb on that one ? knowing that many of the people are hating each other...
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-01-19 01:24 [#01040061]
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at laptop battles here in seattle, at Chop Suey, i hear they have cameras behind the participants so you can see what they are doin on screen.
they do that there?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-01-19 01:48 [#01040074]
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no no actually, but i could look a few times behind the screen of the dj so i saw that he was using live and doing something in it. but he had MUCH preprepared....
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grinningcat
from london (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-19 02:33 [#01040102]
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yes it sometimes takes fucking ages just preparing one track for ableton live... so if a dj has done a big set u can bet he has spent ages and ages preparing it.. rather than walking in with some vinyls and mixing on decks
the thing with live is u can do as muhc or little as you want... i usually have tunes running, then with reason rewired into cubase i can add beats and 303 lines that i have made previously(or make em live) and filter em/fuck em all in real time
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