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offline Anus_Presley on 2004-01-16 12:04 [#01036517]
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Do you not think therre arre farr too many laws?
I forr one do, and most of the time they don't prrevent
someone frrom doing whateverr has been deemed illegal, just
make them a crriminal when they do.


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-01-16 12:05 [#01036523]
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yeah I totally agree.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-01-16 12:12 [#01036534]
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there are too many laws which are never used


 

offline mc_303_beatz from Glasgow, Scotland on 2004-01-16 12:13 [#01036537]
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aye like that law which means you can`t mug lolliepop men.
what the flyin froogijoogi is that aboot?


 

offline nlogax from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2004-01-16 12:19 [#01036561]
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You can't do anything; that pretty much sums it up. Generate
collective fear to control the masses


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-01-16 12:21 [#01036569]
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you can't headbutt american tourists in glasgow. thats
fucking ridiculous.


 

offline nlogax from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2004-01-16 12:21 [#01036573]
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Americans are above us in the food chain, you know...

..


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-01-16 12:24 [#01036580]
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*american accent*

"can i have a pint of your english beer, please?"

"which way to the buckingham towers?"



 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2004-01-16 12:27 [#01036589]
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*english accent*

"fisk 'n chippin' for me mates guvnah."

"jolly good, all me teef 'ave fallen oot."



 

offline mc_303_beatz from Glasgow, Scotland on 2004-01-16 12:28 [#01036591]
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"Please sir, is this stop for Lie-kester Square?"

"Yeah, Gene and I had an awesome time in War-chester"

"Not as lovely as Leg-town Buzzard though sweetpea"

"I agree, pass the cranberries you fat slut"

etc etc


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-01-16 12:28 [#01036592]
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touche!


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-01-16 12:30 [#01036596]
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so... how did this thread turn into flaming americans?


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2004-01-16 12:35 [#01036603]
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america RULES!

europe DROOLZ!



 

offline mc_303_beatz from Glasgow, Scotland on 2004-01-16 12:37 [#01036606]
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I had a girlfriend called Hilda Law once. She liked to be
fingered thrice daily.

You could say i took the Law into my own hands.

chortle!


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-01-16 12:38 [#01036607]
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you don't really think that do you?


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-01-16 12:39 [#01036609]
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if that's a true story then that is hilarious... otherwise,
too cheesy =p


 

offline mc_303_beatz from Glasgow, Scotland on 2004-01-16 12:42 [#01036611]
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I kid you not. She was a Bus conductor from Slough. Jugs
like watermelons.

benisimo!


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2004-01-16 12:50 [#01036624]
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yeah, i guess not...



 

offline esaruoho from helsinki (Finland) on 2004-01-16 14:36 [#01036744]
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the 10 commandments are enough
everything else creates misery



 

offline Anus_Presley on 2004-01-16 14:40 [#01036748]
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Yeah

- Thy shalt not kill
- Thy shalt not smoke marrijuana in the confines of thy own
abode



 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-16 14:43 [#01036754]
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"I forr one do, and most of the time they don't prrevent
someone frrom doing whateverr has been deemed illegal, just
make them a crriminal when they do."


that's a pretty skewed argument.. you don't really notice
the effect of laws as deterrants - you only read about laws
(for example) when they have to be used. so yeah, that would
be about criminals!

anyway, how do you know there are too many laws? I
mean, how do you KNOW this..? did you wake up, made some
toast and while chomping away thought "hey, you know, there
are just too many laws..".
to me that sounds like just such a silly statement.

it's like when people say they think they pay too much tax.
I never get that. HOW do you know? do you know how much it
costs to keep a country's inftastructure running? or to have
a functioning law inforcement agency?


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-16 14:43 [#01036755]
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thou, Anus, thou..


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2004-01-16 14:52 [#01036765]
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did you wake up, made some toast and while chomping away
thought "hey, you know, there are just too many laws.."



qrter, that's exactly what i did.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2004-01-16 15:08 [#01036785]
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but i stand by it. therre arre too many laws.


 

offline danbrusca from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-16 15:09 [#01036789]
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I've never understood the concept of laws as deterrents.
After all, when you commit a crime you think you're going to
get away with it.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2004-01-16 15:12 [#01036791]
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they only deterr good people, who should be allowed to do
what the law is saying they can't anyway.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-16 16:15 [#01036870]
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yes, but that kind of logic doesn't work!!

because when you commit a crime it obviously has not worked
as a deterrant! you hardly hear about the people who do NOT
commit a crime out of fear of punishment.

saying there are lots of people who commit crimes, therefore
laws do not work as a deterrant is silly. on the same scale
you could say even MORE people do not commit crimes, so it's
a FANTASTIC deterrant.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-16 16:16 [#01036871]
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but WHY do you think this!


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2004-01-16 16:24 [#01036886]
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CALM DOWN !!


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-16 16:25 [#01036889]
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you're the one shouting, mon ami.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2004-01-16 16:26 [#01036891]
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it takes time, and money to enact a law and it takes even
more time and money to remove it.

so they tend to stack up. but just because a law is in
effect doesn't mean it will be enforced.

so sure, there probably are a lot of laws on the books that
have no relevence to modern society.


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2004-01-16 16:26 [#01036894]
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ahem


 

offline Xanatos from New York City (United States) on 2004-01-16 16:28 [#01036897]
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The law is made extremely complicated to create the need for
a class of law interpreters that act as the intermediary
between the people and the law. Lawyers are priests.
They go on to become politicians and complicate further the
laws and further alienate simple justice for the common
people.

And don't even get me started on what drug laws are for.

monty python accent:
"oh there you go brining class into it again"


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-16 16:46 [#01036911]
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do not talk oversimplified bullshit.

evolume is much more close to the truth.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-01-16 17:36 [#01037001]
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I used to think that too... I used to think there could be
simple, plain language laws, available to all on the
internet (they are now anyway...) and it would be largely
clear what you could or couldn't do. However, study it to
any real depth and you quickly discover there is neccessity
to the complexity and that the sheer volume of material and
number of developments means that you need people who
specialise in it (well actually, in particular areas of it)
to make any real sense out of it.

Sure, there are some idiotic outdated laws, there are some
horribly self serving lawyers and some judges are well out
of touch with the real world, but for the most part I think
it's a good system.


 

offline godataloss from Cleveland (United States) on 2004-01-16 17:44 [#01037008]
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If there was any kind of system of morality in the world
we'd have no need for lawyers or law enforcement- society
would correct abberant behavior by itself.

The minute you try to legislate morality, you try to
quantify something that is so fucking complex it can never
be fully realized in words or case law. It becomes this big
self perpetuating semantic argument that is totally remove
from ANY kind of reality.

So I here by appoint myself-GODATALOSS- as arbieter of all
wrongs- percieved and otherwise!


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-16 17:47 [#01037011]
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phew! not an arbiter then!



 

offline godataloss from Cleveland (United States) on 2004-01-16 17:49 [#01037015]
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qrter- Time out for you!

3 minutes in the corner!

GO!


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-16 17:50 [#01037019]
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you're only an arbieter. that doesn't even mean anything.

so go and stand in the corner yourself.


 

offline godataloss from Cleveland (United States) on 2004-01-16 17:56 [#01037030]
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FUCK!

good thing the bar is in the corner.


 


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