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Does anybody use it? Is it worth buying? 100$ Give me some opinions about it. |
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i use 4.0... i'd pay $100 for it if i had too, so yeah, it is well worth it |
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What about usage and sound? Does it uses vst/vsti/dx/dxi? |
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Yes, supports all those. Not a bad sequencer at all. Sound is fine- it has a bad reputation because it's so easy (and available on P2P) that you get a lot of dross made with it that use the notoriously bad default samples. I'd be hesitant to use it live (although the live mode is pretty good) as it's nowhere as stable as Ableton live or Reason, although in fairness that may be due to a cracked copy or the VSTs I use. |
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Reading that back it sounds like I'm being luke warm about it... I'm not; I really like it and it's the main thing I use to sequence tracks (aside from ableton live). Plus points: Nice clear UI. Very fast for "sketching" tracks. Not just limited to loop/sample based music (as the name might suggest)- it has good midi implementation too. Good instrument state files - lets you save patches for vst synths etc. that lack them built in. Lots of people here use it- handy for remixing. The fact that you can load up VSTs means you can do all your mastering in the program. The only other real downside I forgot to mention: The "in program" wav editing stuff is a bit weak- I'd combine it with something like soundforge or wavelab to get the most out of it. |
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What is the knobs/faders resolution, e.g. in Reason we have 7bits [2^7=128], and it is little... |
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I just got FL 4 studio yesterday off of slsk, and none of the drum samples seem to play (which must be due to my cracked version)... I am thinking of actually buying it though because I have always liked fruity loops (used to have 3.4 hacked that always worked perfectly). |
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I bought in recently after using a cracked version for over 2 years and I must say that it runs very stable. it's worth the 100$. really it is. |
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I find it's solid as a rock. I don't use any of the included instruments or patches though - they're kinda crappy. But aside from that it's an excellent sequencer / VSTi / DXi host. And the builtin sampler channel is okay unless you want to stretch or pitchbend. And the granulizer is neat for making weird autechre-y sounds. Not sure what the resolution of the knobs is but it must be fairly high - you can ctrl-click with the mouse to get finer adjustments and they don't sound "steppy" when I tweak them with my doepfer pocket controller (box of knobs). Which brings me to the next point - there is no program that is easier to automate or map to physical controllers. Also to make your channels interact with one another with tools like the peak controller. And the formula controller is a real hoot to automate with. Sometimes I do things like map one knob to a channel's volume, and map another one to the same knob with the values inverted, so I can fade one sound and bring another in with one movement. And if you start doing that with effects parameters... whoa. The only drawback is you have to export in 32 bit format and render to 16 bit in something like wavelab, otherwise your final product doesn't sound exactly like your live mix. I just love it to death! If you have your own pile of samples and VSTis and VSTs, you will too - again, expect the included samples and patches to be not so hot. Well worth the very reasonable amount they're asking. Make sure to get the producer edition so you can record audio with an ASIO-capable card. |
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do you use any external hardware synths or do you use all VSTi's? I would be using my Yamaha EX5 as my main tone generator/master controller, this option is well accomodated for, correct? |
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dumb question, I know it has to be implemented, but how thouroughly/user-friendly is it? |
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well if you want to use any hardware maybe you should consider something else. because FL isn't made to controle your hardware with.BUT you can use FL studio as a vsti in cubase or logic. so you can make your beats in fl and import fl in cubase anf use cubase to controle yout yamaha ex5 |
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that sounds like a plan and a half, thank you sir. :) |
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I know Junktion has used floops to control his hardware synths and is a fan of the fruity dashboard (lets you build an on screen midi map representation to help make automation clearer). Fleetmouse: Where's the invert value thing for midi automation? Sounds handy being able to x-fade... |
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Scratch that fleetmouse, I've found it :) |
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cool, sounds nifty. :) |
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I don't know anything about fruityloops hardly... so you can download different instrument files, and then use them in FL? How would you do this, and where would you get them? |
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You can use several things: either VSTis (basically software based synths/drum machines or effects boxes) to "play" notes. It's compatible with soundfonts (which are collections of multisampled instruments). Fruity loop/drum synth sample files (do not use the default samples! :P) Wav Files or DXi files. Those first two mentioned are common to most decent sequencers and as a result there are a lot of them out there. Have you made music before? |
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im telling you people, project5 is the daddy of all software based studios. i use fruity as a vsti inside of project5. best of both worlds. + project5 is rewire compatible...so, in essence, if you wished, you could write a trak using project5/fruity/reason all working together. |
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I use a Roland RS-5 as a controller - it's velocity sensitive and whatnot, doesn't have weighted keys but I love the touch anyway. I run the MIDI in/out and audio out from the keyboard into FL Studio for my piano and electric piano sounds. I don't see why you couldn't use any hardware with it - as long as yopu have enough audio inputs on your sound card, or a mixer - The one small annoyance with FL and MIDI hardware is it can't record and play back sysex commands to set up your hardware's voices and such - I use a free utility called Midi-OX for that. |
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Project5 sounds intriguing - does it support VST and VSTis natively, or does it have to put a DXi wrapper around them? In the past that has screwed with my hardware controllers and automation... |
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Fleetmouse, this playing with the curves using equations is awesome... I knew floops featured it, but I thought it was only as a sort of lfo alternative- not curce control for midi in. Man, I'd love a hardware scratch mixer that hooked up to a pc and let you upload fader curves like these from your pc to it... |
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*curve control for midi in |
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Try mapping the formula controller to the FL scratcher or wave traveller - is that what you're talking about? It ain't hardware but you can link a controller to the scratcher - I like one of those midi keyboard pitch levers that springs to the center for that. |
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FL studio is well worth it, i do most of my composing in there. Works amazingly well with my Oxygen 8 midi controller, and the ton of samples it comes with can easily be morphed into something new within the FX mixer. |
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What are advantages in FL4.5 vs FL3? I have only FL3. |
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Thanks! |
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The wave traveller & scratcher are okay, but I consider them "toy" plugins rather than serious ones... I'd also want to be able to be able to use it to mix records live which wouldn't be an option with them. I have looked into getting (or even building) a midi controlled scratch mixer setup, but is seems: a) Impossible to have sliders that run as smooth as a real crossfader or a very long working life. b) You'd need a v. good soundcard (which I don't have) with true zero latency and several I/Os (to put each deck's signal through in stereo) c) It wouldn't be portable unless the system for it was on a laptop. I don't have a PC laptop... Yes- I can see that the modwheel would be good fun for the wave traveller or scratcher :) |
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Ah well no then - FL currently only has one stereo input with ASIO, so even if you had a leet fast sound card it wouldn't do what you want. |
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Yep, that was the other thing, I'd have to end up running something like cubase as well as having a big midi controller, just to mix two records, seems like overkill :) |
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Why not get one of ? |
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Because I've got very nice record decks already and can scratch using traditional methods :). I've toyed with the idea of getting CD decks, but I really don't like using them much (I can and have used them in clubs etc. but I just wouldn't buy a pair myself) and the good ones are ridiculously expensive. |
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Project 5 is on my list to get. |
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Project 5 is on my list to get. |
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I was interested in it until I found out it can't do audio recording. Blech! |
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In FL4 studio, the default song that is open when the program loads contains 4 drum tracks.. "kick" "hi-hat" and "snare" are red while "clap" is grey/white, and clap is the only one that will generate sound.. what's wrong with the others? |
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hmm...well the sample files must be corrupted because they are all there but only some of them play. |
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I recommend not using those shitty samples. Get some drumloops and slice them up, or get a Waldorf Attack for drumnoises. Personally I prefer slicing and fucking around with drumloops, especially from vinyl sources to give it some texture and sonic patina from the dust and scratches. Even better, buy the fucking program ya cheapskate! It is soooo worth the low low price. |
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there is currently 114 dollars in my bank account... I really dont think spending 100 of it on fruityloops is justifiable at this point in time. |
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Then download the latest installer from Tucows - there's a working regcode floating around for it... much more sensible than running a hacked version. |
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project5 is brilliant. i moved from fruity to project5 when it was first released. the only thing i missed from fruity where the layers. i used to use layers to build a drum kit that could be sequenced in the piano roll. now i just use battery instead. i bit more fiddly, but well worth the extra effort. and to answer fleetmouse. you can rewire project5 to sonar for audio recording. easy. damn shame i cant afford sonar though. |
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I have a copy of Project5, haven't really explored it yet because of how cramped the interface is on my screen. |
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the other thing ive been experimenting with is using fruity as a vsti inside of project5. its a good combo, but i dont really use fruity too much anymore. the sound of project5 is just much better IMO. |
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