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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-01-15 08:32 [#01034517]
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In friday, in british Radio3 (BBC) Symphonic BBC Orchestra will play John's Cage track called 4"33'
What is unusual is that these over 4 minutes are .....completely silence.
It was writen by Cage in 1952, and it was never "played" before
The radio will transmit it live, and they must swich off special devices which are protecting from unsuspected silence .....
heck, i sant listen to it, shame
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-01-15 08:34 [#01034519]
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shortly after that you wil be able to see it on TV , on BBC 4 channel
whole event is just one part of "Week of John Cage" on BBC
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-15 08:35 [#01034521]
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Oh my, I must instruct my secretary to clear my schedule
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-01-15 08:36 [#01034523]
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it sounds better than most stuff on radio 1
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-15 08:37 [#01034525]
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haha
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2004-01-15 08:40 [#01034527]
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-01-15 08:47 [#01034530]
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mmmm shall i listen to this or the kcinsu live set?
*stratches head*
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-15 08:58 [#01034546]
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It's being played all the fucking time that piece.
That's the point!
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eric_hard_jams
on 2004-01-15 13:06 [#01034909]
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both at the same time
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-01-15 13:18 [#01034929]
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thanks hayakusen, that's interesting. i happen to like this piece a lot - it's clever. i think i read somewhere that some organization is performing a cage piece that will take years. anyone know about this?
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-27 14:48 [#01051138]
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it isnt the 1st time 4.33 has been performed. its the first uk performance by a full orchestra.
one of the points of the piece is to draw attention to the elements of an orchestral performance + audience presence that are usually ignored (breathing, movement, page-turning, coughing etc)..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2004 more info about the bbc performance @ /01_january/12/john_cage.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/arts/highlights/010911_ca r40f : the cage piece is 'as slow as possible'.. details @ ge.shtml
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-27 14:51 [#01051143]
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oops.. messed up my cutting + pasting.
4'33" info : http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2004 /01_january/12/john_cage.shtml
info on 'as slow as possible' : http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/arts/highlights/010911_ca ge.shtml
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-01-27 14:55 [#01051153]
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yeah it's been preformed several times before
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-27 14:59 [#01051159]
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EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:)
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-27 15:04 [#01051168]
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another thing i read about it was : despite the fact that the piece is apparently "silent" - it isn't .. it can't be, as there is no silence.
in my opinion, cage's "controversial" pieces are all very well in a chin-strokey/point-proving kind of way - but his most accomplished works are the more traditionally musical ones.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-27 15:11 [#01051176]
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it isn't supposed to be completely silent. the instruments are supposed to be silent. it's all about surrounding noises - thats where there is also music. to help people take the time to actually notice this, he made 4'33".
I saw parts of this BBC performance on tv and the conductor made a joke - he wiped his brow with a handkerchief, suggesting it was hard work. which to me pretty much spoiled the piece - there is to be no performance and in it's own tiny way, this was.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-01-27 15:17 [#01051185]
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I'd rather they play "dream" or "in a landscape" which are actual Cage releases that are worth listening to.
Regarding "as slowly as possible" i'd rather they speed it up as i am curious as to what this what sound like at a normal time rate.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-27 15:50 [#01051229]
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i know this.. one of my earlier posts points to that.
clearly.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-01-27 15:51 [#01051233]
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Someone needs to uh...record it
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-01-27 15:53 [#01051236]
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cage was pretty far with his musical experiences as for years of his living i think
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