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... even good ones. Of course if you're working at 4:00 a.m. in an apartment, speakers aren't an option. =) Anyhoo, I couldn't believe how crap my last choon sounded when I listened to it on speakers so I remixed the fuck out of it and it is available here: |
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speakers and headphones are just different listening devices maybe it sounds like "crap" now on headphones because you mixed it on speakers "it's all good baby baby" -Notorious BIG |
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most headphone mixing will result in a seriously treble-deficient mix... speakers tend to be more honest and show up fine on both speakers and headphones. IMO. |
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ideally, you should make a mix that sounds relatively good on any sort of speaker, from tiny laptop-speakers to carstereo speakers, etc. which means a lot of testing. |
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Yes, I blame the recent drop in my mastering quality to not living in a house with several stereos and a ghetto blaster anymore. Another good rule of thumb is if something sounds good on a really bottom end hi-fi and some top end headphones or a great hi-fi, it'll sound good on everything in between. I tend to use headphones to pick out details in something I spot listening on speakers. |
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yeah but my headphones are amazing |
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So true. Stuff I mix on phones is awfully farty-bassy when I listen back on speakers. If I were doing stuff for serious release I think I'd go buy studio monitors - we already have two decent stereos and a cheap boombox, and a few pairs of headphones in the house. Amazing how picky I've gotten since my days of making cheesy midi tracks with a $30.00 sound card playing back through speakers scavenged from a boombox. :D |
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I think the lesson we all learned today is that if you master on uneven equipment, it will sound uneven on even equipment. "Never trouble trouble til trouble troubles you" -Bad Street, NES game |
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Did you mixed it on your pc? if so,. some soundcards have different settings for speakers and headphones, that will help a lot. and ofcourse use good headphones |
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Sort of like, if you shorten one leg while standing sideways on a hill you will stand at an angle at the equator. Or something. |
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er, that was supposet to be a reply to St. Pigeon. And to Aesthetics I say, I'm using an M-audio card, not one of those consumer pieces of crap, and sony MDR-7506 headphones. This is supposed to be a fairly accurate rig.. as a matter of fact, if the Sonys have one flaw it's that they're a little bass heavy (a consequence of the closed-back design), so I guess speakers and headphones just respond differently. |
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i mix on both. i use headphones for checking "color" and stereo stuff. then i use speakers for more general mastering. like 4eq stuff. i also try to save a few mastering and normalizing presets when i find they work on a specific type of track. so i can try using them on other similar sounding tracks. |
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Interesting - I usually don't apply EQ after I have my sounds the way I want 'em - I always feel if I EQ the final mix I'll be inadvertently hacking at one sound in order to tweak another... |
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yeah, nothing drastic. i like to use T-Racks for this. it has some simulated analogue compression and a 4 eq that i like to use. it also has a nice stereo width knob that spreads the sound out a bit. |
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yeah its a real problem coz late night the best time to work. 2am is a perfect time to work. you just have to eq during the day |
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I'll keep an eye out for that T-racks - thanks for the headsup |
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2 am yes - sucks to have a job. |
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job is for fags |
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Heh, I'm not ready to be one of the ruggedly heterosexual homeless just yet. :D |
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ceri those look like the headphones that came with old turntables back in the 70s |
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and whose that dude in fleetmouse's avatar isn't he from punch out? |
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OH SHIT MY ENGLISH *who's |
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looks like bill shatner to me |
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Do you people not know the great Turkmenbasy? Must I conduct another political purge and re-education campaign? |
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Yes, they look gash. I've never seen a photograph of them that makes them actually look like they do though... Such a nice flat frequency response and really good in loud club environments. |
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Considered just writing mono 8-bit gabber fleettyboy? |
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*cough* *cough* |
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I have found a useful way of combatting this problem, I find hat if i compare tracks that i mastered on speakers an listen to them on headphones i then master the tracks i'm writing compared to these. Works for me anyway. |
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